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Old November 30th 11, 07:54 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Bertie Wooster
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It will not be long before other local authorities, up and down the
country, think of roads as places that serve communities, and not as
thoroughfares.

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At last night’s full council meeting, Islington Councillors took a
historic decision. They approved a plan that will see a maximum 20mph
speed limit come into force across the entire borough. As the local
assembly member, and an Islington resident I fully support the
council’s move. It will mean the streets of Islington will be safer.
Safer for pedestrians, drivers and cyclists. It will allow streets to
become vibrant hubs for community activity and will of course save
lives.

In making this bold move, Islington Labour Councillors are inviting
residents to think differently about the communities in which they
live. We should no longer think of our urban spaces as narrow strips
of pavement running alongside busy roads. Instead we should see the
urban environment as a patch work quilt of unique and accessible
spaces.

The safety benefits are clear from the statistics. In 2001 227 people
were killed or seriously injured on Islington’s Roads. By 2009 that
had fallen to 77. That number is still too high. One death or serious
injury on Islington’s roads is one too many. But these statistics do
demonstrate that reducing speed limits does save lives.

This change will help to make our roads safer for cyclists. In recent
years the trend has been for a reduction in the number of casualties
and deaths overall. However among cyclists, these figures have taken
much longer to decline. There are clearly other factors besides speed
that it will be necessary to address to reduce the number of accidents
involving cyclists on our roads. However, the new 20mph limit will
help to bring down those figures.

In addition to challenging how we view urban spaces and promoting
safety, this new measure will have a positive impact in reducing noise
and air pollution.

The council has been rightly applauded for taking this decision, the
first in the country to do so. This change is symbolic of a modal
shift that is occurring in how we travel. It is in essence about the
future of our cities. Let’s hope that other local authorities follow
Islington’s lead and create safer, less polluted streets.
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Old November 30th 11, 07:58 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Simon Mason[_4_]
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On Nov 30, 7:54*am, Bertie Wooster wrote:
It will not be long before other local authorities, up and down the
country, think of roads as places that serve communities, and not as
thoroughfares.

=====Quote=====
At last night’s full council meeting, Islington Councillors took a
historic decision. They approved a plan that will see a maximum 20mph
speed limit come into force across the entire borough. As the local
assembly member, and an Islington residentI fully support the
council’s move. It will mean the streets of Islington will be safer.
Safer for pedestrians, drivers and cyclists. It will allow streets to
become vibrant hubs for community activity and will of course save
lives.


Don't forget to make a gallery of the paintings.
Like this.

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page361.htm

--
Simon Mason

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Old November 30th 11, 08:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
GT
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...
On Nov 30, 7:54 am, Bertie Wooster wrote:
It will not be long before other local authorities, up and down the
country, think of roads as places that serve communities, and not as
thoroughfares.

=====Quote=====
At last night’s full council meeting, Islington Councillors took a
historic decision. They approved a plan that will see a maximum 20mph
speed limit come into force across the entire borough. As the local
assembly member, and an Islington residentI fully support the
council’s move. It will mean the streets of Islington will be safer.
Safer for pedestrians, drivers and cyclists. It will allow streets to
become vibrant hubs for community activity and will of course save
lives.


Don't forget to make a gallery of the paintings.
Like this.

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page361.htm

--
Simon Mason

== reply ==
I like the 4th one "Exhaust kills too" - a clear reminder that the 20mph
limit increases congestion and increases the amount of pollution produced by
vehicles on the road!


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Old December 1st 11, 10:14 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Squashme
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On Nov 30, 8:18*pm, "GT" wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message

...
On Nov 30, 7:54 am, Bertie Wooster wrote:

It will not be long before other local authorities, up and down the
country, think of roads as places that serve communities, and not as
thoroughfares.


=====Quote=====
At last night’s full council meeting, Islington Councillors took a
historic decision. They approved a plan that will see a maximum 20mph
speed limit come into force across the entire borough. As the local
assembly member, and an Islington residentI fully support the
council’s move. It will mean the streets of Islington will be safer.
Safer for pedestrians, drivers and cyclists. It will allow streets to
become vibrant hubs for community activity and will of course save
lives.


Don't forget to make a gallery of the paintings.
Like this.

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page361.htm

--
Simon Mason

== reply ==
I like the 4th one "Exhaust kills too" - a clear reminder that the 20mph
limit increases congestion and increases the amount of pollution produced by
vehicles on the road!


IF a 20 mph limit increased congestion.
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Old December 1st 11, 10:41 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Ian Jackson[_2_]
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Squashme writes
On Nov 30, 8:18*pm, "GT" wrote:




I like the 4th one "Exhaust kills too" - a clear reminder that the 20mph
limit increases congestion and increases the amount of pollution produced by
vehicles on the road!


IF a 20 mph limit increased congestion.


In many places, a 20 limit will only limit the speed that vehicles
travel between one 'hold-up' (ie having to become stationary) and
another (traffic lights, road junctions etc). It will prevent
unnecessary - and pointless - rapid acceleration, followed by braking.
It may also mean that less time is actually spent stationary, waiting to
move off, with the engine ticking over. I'm sure that, overall, there
will be less pollution, and in many situations, I doubt if there will be
much of a reduction in the average speed.
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Old December 1st 11, 10:54 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Simon Mason[_4_]
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On Dec 1, 10:41*am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message
,
Squashme writes

On Nov 30, 8:18 pm, "GT" wrote:


I like the 4th one "Exhaust kills too" - a clear reminder that the 20mph
limit increases congestion and increases the amount of pollution produced by
vehicles on the road!


IF a 20 mph limit increased congestion.


In many places, a 20 limit will only limit the speed that vehicles
travel between one 'hold-up' (ie having to become stationary) and
another (traffic lights, road junctions etc). It will prevent
unnecessary - and pointless - rapid acceleration, followed by braking.
It may also mean that less time is actually spent stationary, waiting to
move off, with the engine ticking over. I'm sure that, overall, there
will be less pollution, and in many situations, I doubt if there will be
much of a reduction in the average speed.
--
Ian


There is less local pollution in our 20mph zones anyway as unless you
*really* have to drive down them, the rat runners avoid them lie the
plague due to the buggeration factor of the severe humps.

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Simon Mason
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Old December 1st 11, 08:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
GT
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"Squashme" wrote in message
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On Nov 30, 8:18 pm, "GT" wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message

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On Nov 30, 7:54 am, Bertie Wooster wrote:

It will not be long before other local authorities, up and down the
country, think of roads as places that serve communities, and not as
thoroughfares.


=====Quote=====
At last night’s full council meeting, Islington Councillors took a
historic decision. They approved a plan that will see a maximum 20mph
speed limit come into force across the entire borough. As the local
assembly member, and an Islington residentI fully support the
council’s move. It will mean the streets of Islington will be safer.
Safer for pedestrians, drivers and cyclists. It will allow streets to
become vibrant hubs for community activity and will of course save
lives.


Don't forget to make a gallery of the paintings.
Like this.

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page361.htm

--
Simon Mason

== reply ==
I like the 4th one "Exhaust kills too" - a clear reminder that the 20mph
limit increases congestion and increases the amount of pollution produced
by
vehicles on the road!


IF a 20 mph limit increased congestion.

== reply ==

True, but driving at 20mph is less efficient and produces more pollution
than 30mph


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Old December 1st 11, 11:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Squashme
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On Dec 1, 8:02*pm, "GT" wrote:
"Squashme" wrote in message

...
On Nov 30, 8:18 pm, "GT" wrote:









"Simon Mason" wrote in message


...
On Nov 30, 7:54 am, Bertie Wooster wrote:


It will not be long before other local authorities, up and down the
country, think of roads as places that serve communities, and not as
thoroughfares.


=====Quote=====
At last night s full council meeting, Islington Councillors took a
historic decision. They approved a plan that will see a maximum 20mph
speed limit come into force across the entire borough. As the local
assembly member, and an Islington residentI fully support the
council s move. It will mean the streets of Islington will be safer.
Safer for pedestrians, drivers and cyclists. It will allow streets to
become vibrant hubs for community activity and will of course save
lives.


Don't forget to make a gallery of the paintings.
Like this.


http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page361.htm


--
Simon Mason


== reply ==
I like the 4th one "Exhaust kills too" - a clear reminder that the 20mph
limit increases congestion and increases the amount of pollution produced
by
vehicles on the road!


IF a 20 mph limit increased congestion.

== reply ==

True, but driving at 20mph is less efficient and produces more pollution
than 30mph


Sure? Source?
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Old December 3rd 11, 01:03 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Jim Newman
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On 01/12/2011 20:02, GT wrote:


True, but driving at 20mph is less efficient and produces more pollution
than 30mph


True - but cycling at any mph is more efficient and produces less
pollution than driving. So swap to a bike when your journey starts to
slow down.
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Old December 1st 11, 10:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Judith[_4_]
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:58:23 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Nov 30, 7:54*am, Bertie Wooster wrote:
It will not be long before other local authorities, up and down the
country, think of roads as places that serve communities, and not as
thoroughfares.

=====Quote=====
At last night’s full council meeting, Islington Councillors took a
historic decision. They approved a plan that will see a maximum 20mph
speed limit come into force across the entire borough. As the local
assembly member, and an Islington residentI fully support the
council’s move. It will mean the streets of Islington will be safer.
Safer for pedestrians, drivers and cyclists. It will allow streets to
become vibrant hubs for community activity and will of course save
lives.


Don't forget to make a gallery of the paintings.
Like this.

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page361.htm



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