Better than bells

wrote:
Bob wrote:

I'm not a big fan of bells but they aren't dangerous. Dangerous is
riding in the door zone and relying on your reaction time, the caution
of parked motorists, and their reaction time when that caution fails.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

yeah, well, I was a courier at the time so it's do that or don't make
enough to put food on the table (plus get blacklisted by dispatch), no
choice in that kind of occupation. now, all my rides are out in the
boonies, no bell, no problemo

Nothing throws a monkey wrench into a delivery
like hitting a door. Don't ride in the door zone,
rookies. At least, not with any speed.

On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:13:19 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:28:45 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
{context???}

(And yes, he got a big wide scrape on his helmet; would
have lost some scalp for sure.)

How do you know "for sure"? Was the scrape as deep as the thickness
of the helmet? If not, wouldn't his head missed entirely whatever it
was that "scraped" the surface of the helmet?

Can't argue with THAT "logic"!

He asked you a few questions. Can you answer any of them?

JT

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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:13:19 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote (/in
part/):
{where's the rest of what I wrote?!?)

wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:28:45 GMT, "Bill Sornson"
wrote: {context???}

(And yes, he got a big wide scrape on his helmet; would
have lost some scalp for sure.)

How do you know "for sure"? Was the scrape as deep as the thickness
of the helmet? If not, wouldn't his head missed entirely whatever
it was that "scraped" the surface of the helmet?

Can't argue with THAT "logic"!

He asked you a few questions. Can you answer any of them?

You deleted my answer. (Shocking! LOL )

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Why do you rail against helmets while owning numerous models and
photographing them admiringly, comparing their ventilation characteristics
(not to mention wearing them about 70% of the time you ride)?

That's just ONE question.

Bill "one line sig, too" S.

"Pat Lamb" wrote in message
...
The human voice: the ultimate alert device.

It was almost as much fun as yelling "beep-beep" at a couple kids last
week -- one of them asked me as I passed, "Do you have a horn on that
bike?"

Sometimes motorists respond very well to a voice-generated imitated car
horn -- much better than the cheery tinkle of a typical bike bell.


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Claire Petersky
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On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:23:42 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:13:19 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote (/in
part/):
{where's the rest of what I wrote?!?)

wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:28:45 GMT, "Bill Sornson"
wrote: {context???}

(And yes, he got a big wide scrape on his helmet; would
have lost some scalp for sure.)

How do you know "for sure"? Was the scrape as deep as the thickness
of the helmet? If not, wouldn't his head missed entirely whatever
it was that "scraped" the surface of the helmet?

Can't argue with THAT "logic"!

He asked you a few questions. Can you answer any of them?

You deleted my answer. (Shocking! LOL )

You didn't answer any of his questions.

Why do you rail against helmets while owning numerous models and
photographing them admiringly, comparing their ventilation characteristics
(not to mention wearing them about 70% of the time you ride)?

That's just ONE question.

I haven't railed against helmets.

JT

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wrote:

Nothing throws a monkey wrench into a delivery
like hitting a door. Don't ride in the door zone,
rookies. At least, not with any speed.

Even at low speed, a door can hurt AND cause a dangerous situation. My
friend on Sunday was going quite slow (having just climbed a steep hill,
stopped at a light, and then started up again on a fair incline), but
couldn't avoid the swinging door and ended up in the middle of the road,
dazed and in pain.

Could have been /really/ ugly.

As you say, stay well clear as much as possible. Ouch.

Claire Petersky wrote:
"Pat Lamb" wrote in message
...
The human voice: the ultimate alert device.

It was almost as much fun as yelling "beep-beep" at a couple kids last
week -- one of them asked me as I passed, "Do you have a horn on that
bike?"

Sometimes motorists respond very well to a voice-generated imitated car
horn -- much better than the cheery tinkle of a typical bike bell.

I stick to:
"Let's go, man"
"Watch it there, idiot"
"HEY HEY HEY HEYYYYY!!!"

Also
Pointing at drivers seems to help them see me. Maybe just a series of
coincidences leads me to believe this, but I think our social
insecurities alert us to pointers even in our periphery.
\\paul
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Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
..:change the f to ph to reply:.

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:23:42 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
Why do you rail against helmets while owning numerous models and
photographing them admiringly, comparing their ventilation
characteristics (not to mention wearing them about 70% of the time
you ride)?

You know, the more I think about your comments about helmets the more
I realize you're just plain stupid. Equating skepticism about the
efficacy of helmets, or even just questions about them with being
anti-helmet or railing against helmets. Dopey.

As I've said many times, we're all ignorant about some things. I'm
ignorant about many things. But I'm also aware of most of my
ignorance and try to deal with it -- either by learning or by at least
not arguing about things I don't know.

While the true dopes revel in their ignornance and argue about things
they don't understand. Like simple division. Or questions about
helmets. LOL.

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Gee, for a bright guy you sure have to answer posts TWICE a lot.

ROTFL

On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:23:42 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
Why do you rail against helmets while owning numerous models and
photographing them admiringly, comparing their ventilation characteristics
(not to mention wearing them about 70% of the time you ride)?

You know, the more I think about your comments about helmets the more
I realize you're just plain stupid. Equating skepticism about the
efficacy of helmets, or even just questions about them with being
anti-helmet or railing against helmets. Dopey.

As I've said many times, we're all ignorant about some things. I'm
ignorant about many things. But I'm also aware of most of my
ignorance and try to deal with it -- either by learning or by at least
not arguing about things I don't know.

While the true dopes revel in their ignornance and argue about things
they don't understand. Like simple division. Or questions about
helmets. LOL.

JT

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Sometimes motorists respond very well to a voice-generated imitated car
horn -- much better than the cheery tinkle of a typical bike bell.

I stick to:
"Let's go, man"
"Watch it there, idiot"
"HEY HEY HEY HEYYYYY!!!"

Next time, I'm going to give it the old Ah-OOO-gah car horn and see what
happens!