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"MJR" wrote: (clip) another generation of mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, republican-voting idiots. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I am a Democrat, but I would not write a line like the above. I don't think you should, either. Do you think any Republican is going to read that and switch parties? |
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Rich wrote: Medicare and Social Security are two different programs. Yes they were created by different legislation. But they are intertwined at the political level.And $'s are the most fungible of any commodity so my idea is that massive increases in one area will always put pressures in another. Besides the point is really the societal costs of obesity so quibbling over which Title foots the bill is not the relevant question. |
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"Maggie" wrote in message oups.com... Did you see the news report regarding our nations children. It is estimated that this generation of children will be the first generation to fail to live longer than their parents generation. Their lifestyle, eating habits and obesity puts them at greater risk for health problems. That really saddened me. I cannot understand how anyone can allow their children to eat fast food and play x-box after school. It boggles my mind. Do they even care about physical activity in this hi tech world of computer games and Surround Sound. All Good Things Maggie It's not just your side of the pond, Maggie. Over here on this side we have a similar problem - but apparently not quite as bad as the USA... yet. There is a big drive by one of our "celebrity chefs", Jamie Oliver, to improve school dinners, which are currently pretty much junk food: saturated fat crap. Then there's the more sedentary lifestyle of our kids. I've had other parents tell me they think I am a bad parent because I allow my son to cycle to college... My son happens to be a slim, fit 16-year-old. To many aren't. Cheers, helen s |
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On 17 Mar 2005 13:13:31 -0800, gds wrote:
Roger Zoul wrote: The mere fact that people eat fast food and play x-box after school is not the problem. The problem is people eat too much, eat too much poor quality food, and don't get enough, if any, exercise. I don't quite understand your point as your comments contradict themselves. Your first sentence says that fast food and playing x-box are not the problem. Then you say the problem is poor quality food and not enough exercise. To me the first sentence is the same as yor second. Fast food is poor quality food and the implication of x-box play is that it substitutes for exercise. So... . You can play X-box and get enough exercise. It's when you play x-box and don't get exercise that the problem occurs. -- Bob in CT |
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On 17 Mar 2005 13:52:51 -0800, gds wrote:
Rich wrote: Medicare and Social Security are two different programs. Yes they were created by different legislation. But they are intertwined at the political level.And $'s are the most fungible of any commodity so my idea is that massive increases in one area will always put pressures in another. Besides the point is really the societal costs of obesity so quibbling over which Title foots the bill is not the relevant question. But the obese will die earlier, as opposed to the thin people, who will live and really suck the money out of the coffers. -- Bob in CT |
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Leo Lichtman wrote: "MJR" wrote: (clip) another generation of mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, republican-voting idiots. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I am a Democrat, but I would not write a line like the above. I don't think you should, either. Do you think any Republican is going to read that and switch parties? I am a republican. |
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To me the first sentence is the same as yor second. Fast food is poor quality food and the implication of x-box play is that it substitutes for exercise. So... . You can play X-box and get enough exercise. It's when you play x-box and don't get exercise that the problem occurs. -- Bob in CT Of course! ! That is why I used the word "implication" So, its possible but let's face reality. Kids are getting really fat. That means that overall they are getting too much food and too little exersize. Why quibble over what is possible when the reality of what is gets better and better documentation. This is a problem of what's happening to many kids and the cultural forces that are fostering the change. Arguing about some kids who play x box but also eat well and get exersize is not the point. |
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:15:09 -0800, "Claire Petersky"
wrote: While this could be factors, another major factor is that parents don't let their kids walk or ride their bikes these days. WIWAK, the only reason why you got a ride to school in your parent's car was when you were sick and had to be picked up early from school. Everyone walked or rode their bikes, except few who came in the school bus. One of these schlockumentaries on the box the other day highlighted a woman who drove her daughter to the school bus stop which was actually visible in shot as they interviewed her outside her front door. It can't have been more than a couple of hundred yards away. Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound |
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Bob M wrote: But the obese will die earlier, as opposed to the thin people, who will live and really suck the money out of the coffers. -- Bob in CT But would you rather contribute to a program to partially fund retirement of healthy productive folks or to pay for the medial costs of folks who have literally made themselves sick.And I'm not sure that the social security costs for someone living healthy until 85 aren't less than the medical costs of someone who is disabled and has several heart attacks and strokes before dying. I know how I feel on the issue. |
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Leo Lichtman wrote: "MJR" wrote: (clip) another generation of mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, republican-voting idiots. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I am a Democrat, but I would not write a line like the above. I don't think you should, either. Do you think any Republican is going to read that and switch parties? I am a republican. I'm entitled to be ****ed off at the retards who have hijacked my party. The reason I am not a democrat is because that group seems to be overwhelmingly populated with whiners that would cry about what I wrote. Sooner or later, we'll either eject the idiots who dont believe in evolution because it hasn't acutally happened to their families yet, and get the republican party back to what it used to be.... or we'll all defect to the libertarians... but I sure won't be switching parties to the democratic party anytime soon... now go cry into an Andrea Dworkin book. |
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