Chaos, death and disaster - several bombs have just exploded in London ;-(

You really need to get over blaming a religion - it's facile. Would you
really like to put yourself in the same category as the likes of Timothy
McVeigh (assuming of course that you're Christian)? Islam is
a religion of peace, the fact that these fanatics choose to promote their
causes under the name of Islam is actually offensive to true Muslims.


But not so offensive as to be willing to lift a finger to clean the turds
out of their own punchbowl.

"0ld Yank" same@ Isee.net wrote in message
...

"Michel Boucher" wrote in message
...
"0ld Yank" same@ Isee.net wrote in
:

I am wary of claims at this point and hope the British security
people are also careful before jumping the gun (as it were).

Chances are there's some video. We'll know who's responsible
soon.

Yes. We certainly don't want to blame those poor, disenfranchised
Al Queda Islamic terrorists unnecessarily, do we?

I guess if you're only interested in vengeance, it doesn't matter
whether those you choose to be the guilty parties actually did it or
not. Personally, I favour being correct over being in a hurry.



Are we in agreement here?

If not, let's start eliminating the possible nonsuspects. It should be
someone who has not been proliferating terror for the last 12-15 years.
Let's see, there's that incident of the USS Cole; the Indonesian blast
that
killed hundreds; the Spanish train incident; the two attacks on the NY
Trade
Center in a span of years; the plethora of Embassies blown up around the
country; the....... hmmmm. Well, then there's, uh,..... Hmmmm. We
know who did all those things, but of course, we can't just assume that
the
same Islamic vermin were responsible for this horror. I mean, that would
be
unChristian of us not to mention stupid.

For the life of me, I can't think of anyone at all who would do such a
thing
to innocent people. Can you?

Well, mebbe whoever did it left a video g. Damn that was a good line.

But vengeance is not the impetus for retaliation. If it were, then the
West
could simply nuke Mecca and get it over with. But self preservation
should
be our motive--and in that vein, nuking Mecca might not be such a bad
idea,
eh?

Of course, we'd need to give them advance notice so that all the
noninvolved
Muslims living there could high-tail it to the city limits. Ten minutes
ought to do it.

--Yankee Viejo



I'm afraid that is what it must come to.

There is no end. They will keep on till we are exterminated. I say let's
beat them to the punch....

Japan recovered nicely....

Shaun aRe wrote:

Since the article, MANY more than the 2 first mentioned confirmed dead. This
is bad, real, real bad...

My thoughts are with you all. This brings the cold sadness I felt after
9/11 back in a vivid and uncomfortable way.

I've been driving cross-country for a few days, listening to the
coverage (if you can call it that) on the AM talk stations, which is
all you can get in some places. It's really disturbing how sick and
bizarre these talk radio blowhards have become.

Take care.

CC

"Bob W" bob @bobbbbbbbbb.net wrote in message
...

I have a mental
picture of the ****er's bumper. A yellow ribbon sticker, a W04
sticker, and a big ****ing dent that's never going to get fixed
because he can't come up with the deductible.

I am afraid that in this at least, you are wrong. I don't care for the guy's
attitudes - mark that mind you, but he is not as you describe.









Shaun aRe

Shaun aRe wrote:
"Bob W" bob @bobbbbbbbbb.net wrote in message
...

I have a mental
picture of the ****er's bumper. A yellow ribbon sticker, a W04
sticker, and a big ****ing dent that's never going to get fixed
because he can't come up with the deductible.

I am afraid that in this at least, you are wrong. I don't care for
the guy's attitudes - mark that mind you, but he is not as you
describe.

You know "Old Yank"?

"Bill Sornson" wrote in message
...
Shaun aRe wrote:
"Bob W" bob @bobbbbbbbbb.net wrote in message
...

I have a mental
picture of the ****er's bumper. A yellow ribbon sticker, a W04
sticker, and a big ****ing dent that's never going to get fixed
because he can't come up with the deductible.

I am afraid that in this at least, you are wrong. I don't care for
the guy's attitudes - mark that mind you, but he is not as you
describe.

You know "Old Yank"?


Sure Shaun knows me. My mamma and his mamma used to wash clothes under the
same sun.

--Yankee Viejo

"0ld Yank" same@ Isee.net wrote in message
...

"Michel Boucher" wrote in message
...
"0ld Yank" same@ Isee.net wrote in
:

But whatever they speak, they need to get their idiotic heads
buckled on right and see this terrorist thing for what it is: A
war against everyone who doesn't Islamibabble.

And you say this because you have special knowledge? Allow me to
suggest right now that I seriously doubt you have special knowledge.

I was actually happy to hear Blair echo my own thinking and address the
real issues that are at the root of this problem: grinding poverty and
despair. Until these problems are dealt with, the attacks will
continue.

And it isn't Islam you need to fear any more than the Muslims in the
12th century needed to fear Christianity. It is the perversions of
religions that are fearful. Fundamentalist Christianity is just as
wrong as fundamentalist Islam.


If Blair said that poverty causes terrorism, he was wrong. He was prolly
pandering to his socialist base--and it was a silly silly statement. You
are equally silly for mouthing it here on the newsgroup. I was born in
the
middle of the Great American depression. My dad made $.17 an hour when he
could get work. My parents were so poor they ate beans and bread for
months. It took them years to recover from their plight. In the interim,
they never killed anyone, and neither did their equally destitute
neighbors.

Sensible people don't kill because they are in lack. Evil people kill
because they know they can.

As for Fundamental(ist) Christianity being as wrong as Fundemental(ist)
Islam, I also disagree. You are hideously misinformed. There are no
accepted Christian churches preaching terrorism or indiscriminate killing
of
peoples of other religions.


There have many killings of gays and pro-choice doctors by fundamentalist
Christians in the name of Christ. You're a complete ****ing moron. That's
terrorism.

Greg

0ld Yank wrote:
"Michel Boucher" wrote in message
...
Mark Hickey wrote in
:

I'm suggesting that Webster's is not a dictionary.

... and therefore that Americans shouldn't use an American
"dictionary" when composing email? Then pray tell, what source of
literary accuracy SHOULD us poor colonials refer to when
attempting to craft verbiage that might inadvertently travel
across the big pond?

Should we replace our "z" keys with an extra "u" key, perhaps?

Is this like the UK version of the spelling police?

I'm not in the UK, so the short answer is...no. You can do what you
want but if you quote Webster's as an authority on language, I will
not accept that. You are free to do so, but you may from time to
time encounter opprobrium for your jejune use of local resources.
Personally, I only recognize the Oxford and you, as a websterite,
have the option of consulting the New Oxford American [sic]
Dictionary. So don't tell me you weren't warned.

http://www.oup.com/us/brochure/noad/?view=3Dusa


Lordy lordy=AE. All this time I thought I was speaking English, and I was
really speaking Websterese. Of course, that's better than those
snooty-tooty people on the big island who speak *Oxfordian*.

But whatever they speak, they need to get their idiotic heads buckled on
right and see this terrorist thing for what it is: A war against everyone
who doesn't Islamibabble.

Terrorism in the name of religion is just that. Terrorism.
Nothing more, nothing less.
To suggest otherwise shows your complete ignorance of the situation and
indeed the facts.

Mike

(Cross posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.food.cooking-sissy)



"G.T." wrote in message
...

"0ld Yank" same@ Isee.net wrote in message
...


If Blair said that poverty causes terrorism, he was wrong. He was
prolly
pandering to his socialist base--and it was a silly silly statement.
You
are equally silly for mouthing it here on the newsgroup. I was born in
the
middle of the Great American depression. My dad made $.17 an hour when
he
could get work. My parents were so poor they ate beans and bread for
months. It took them years to recover from their plight. In the
interim,
they never killed anyone, and neither did their equally destitute
neighbors.

Sensible people don't kill because they are in lack. Evil people kill
because they know they can.

As for Fundamental(ist) Christianity being as wrong as Fundemental(ist)
Islam, I also disagree. You are hideously misinformed. There are no
accepted Christian churches preaching terrorism or indiscriminate
killing
of
peoples of other religions.


There have many killings of gays and pro-choice doctors by fundamentalist
Christians in the name of Christ. You're a complete ****ing moron.
That's
terrorism.

Greg


You are not a very good reader, are you? I wrote: "There are no accepted
Christian churches preaching terrorism or indiscriminate killing of peoples
of other religions."

Homosexuality and abortion are repugnant examples of immorality, but there
are no accepted Christian churches preaching the killing of those who
practice those acts.

And you call ME a moron? Whoop!

--Yankee Viejo

wrote in message
oups.com...
0ld Yank wrote:
"Michel Boucher" wrote in message
...
Mark Hickey wrote in
:

I'm suggesting that Webster's is not a dictionary.

... and therefore that Americans shouldn't use an American
"dictionary" when composing email? Then pray tell, what source of
literary accuracy SHOULD us poor colonials refer to when
attempting to craft verbiage that might inadvertently travel
across the big pond?

Should we replace our "z" keys with an extra "u" key, perhaps?

Is this like the UK version of the spelling police?

I'm not in the UK, so the short answer is...no. You can do what you
want but if you quote Webster's as an authority on language, I will
not accept that. You are free to do so, but you may from time to
time encounter opprobrium for your jejune use of local resources.
Personally, I only recognize the Oxford and you, as a websterite,
have the option of consulting the New Oxford American [sic]
Dictionary. So don't tell me you weren't warned.

http://www.oup.com/us/brochure/noad/?view=usa


Lordy lordy®. All this time I thought I was speaking English, and I was
really speaking Websterese. Of course, that's better than those
snooty-tooty people on the big island who speak *Oxfordian*.

But whatever they speak, they need to get their idiotic heads buckled on
right and see this terrorist thing for what it is: A war against everyone
who doesn't Islamibabble.

Terrorism in the name of religion is just that. Terrorism.
Nothing more, nothing less.
To suggest otherwise shows your complete ignorance of the situation and
indeed the facts.

Mike


You can't read, can you?
You guys need to spend more time in school and less time on those silly
wire-wheelers.

Bicycles are for girls.

--Yankee Viejo