Lithium Ion vs NiMh battery

On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 6:09:13 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:


Which brings up something I've always wondered about. You go in the
store and there is a very nice battery display rack with all sorts of
batteries. One can only speculate how long they have been on the rack,
or in storage before being displayed on the rack.

Does the store scrap any battery that has been on the rack for X
months? Years? Or just keep them until someone buys them?

And which brings up another question - how do you know that your source is any better?

On 2017-10-25 09:34, wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 6:09:13 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:


Which brings up something I've always wondered about. You go in the
store and there is a very nice battery display rack with all sorts of
batteries. One can only speculate how long they have been on the rack,
or in storage before being displayed on the rack.

Does the store scrap any battery that has been on the rack for X
months? Years? Or just keep them until someone buys them?

And which brings up another question - how do you know that your source is any better?


Buy name brand with a stated expiration date and preferably from a
domestic vendor. Example:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-FRESH-Gen...6/291730572457

To find those, key in the battery type and add the separate word
"expiration".

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 9:57:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-25 09:34, wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 6:09:13 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:


Which brings up something I've always wondered about. You go in the
store and there is a very nice battery display rack with all sorts of
batteries. One can only speculate how long they have been on the rack,
or in storage before being displayed on the rack.

Does the store scrap any battery that has been on the rack for X
months? Years? Or just keep them until someone buys them?

And which brings up another question - how do you know that your source is any better?


Buy name brand with a stated expiration date and preferably from a
domestic vendor. Example:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-FRESH-Gen...6/291730572457

To find those, key in the battery type and add the separate word
"expiration".


Not to be too critical but that is the brand and card I bought in which two years after purchase three of them were dead when one of the other three in use went dead.

On 2017-10-25 11:29, wrote:
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 9:57:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-25 09:34, wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 6:09:13 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:


Which brings up something I've always wondered about. You go in
the store and there is a very nice battery display rack with
all sorts of batteries. One can only speculate how long they
have been on the rack, or in storage before being displayed on
the rack.

Does the store scrap any battery that has been on the rack for
X months? Years? Or just keep them until someone buys them?

And which brings up another question - how do you know that your
source is any better?


Buy name brand with a stated expiration date and preferably from a
domestic vendor. Example:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-FRESH-Gen...6/291730572457



To find those, key in the battery type and add the separate word
"expiration".


Not to be too critical but that is the brand and card I bought in
which two years after purchase three of them were dead when one of
the other three in use went dead.


Did you contact Sony about it? They have to defend a reputation and
should usually fall over backwards to make it right for you. It can
happen that their QA slips but it isn't supposed to.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:

Did you contact Sony about it? They have to defend a reputation and
should usually fall over backwards to make it right for you. It can
happen that their QA slips but it isn't supposed to.

Come on Joerg - for a couple of bucks?

On 2017-10-26 07:56, wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:

Did you contact Sony about it? They have to defend a reputation and
should usually fall over backwards to make it right for you. It can
happen that their QA slips but it isn't supposed to.

Come on Joerg - for a couple of bucks?


To me stuff like that is not just a matter of principle, an otherwise
reputable manufacturer has to know that this is happening. If nobody
alerts them they may never learn about such problems. After all, it just
takes 30sec for an email. The only one here who might make a couple of
bucks in 30sec is probably Jay :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 10:01:36 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-26 07:56, wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:

Did you contact Sony about it? They have to defend a reputation and
should usually fall over backwards to make it right for you. It can
happen that their QA slips but it isn't supposed to.

Come on Joerg - for a couple of bucks?


To me stuff like that is not just a matter of principle, an otherwise
reputable manufacturer has to know that this is happening. If nobody
alerts them they may never learn about such problems. After all, it just
takes 30sec for an email. The only one here who might make a couple of
bucks in 30sec is probably Jay :-)

Well, I agree but I don't have to be the one that takes more time and effort and postage than the batteries cost.

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 10:01:36 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-26 07:56, wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:

Did you contact Sony about it? They have to defend a reputation and
should usually fall over backwards to make it right for you. It can
happen that their QA slips but it isn't supposed to.

Come on Joerg - for a couple of bucks?


To me stuff like that is not just a matter of principle, an otherwise
reputable manufacturer has to know that this is happening. If nobody
alerts them they may never learn about such problems. After all, it just
takes 30sec for an email. The only one here who might make a couple of
bucks in 30sec is probably Jay :-)

Jay?

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 10:30:56 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 10:01:36 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-26 07:56, wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:

Did you contact Sony about it? They have to defend a reputation and
should usually fall over backwards to make it right for you. It can
happen that their QA slips but it isn't supposed to.

Come on Joerg - for a couple of bucks?


To me stuff like that is not just a matter of principle, an otherwise
reputable manufacturer has to know that this is happening. If nobody
alerts them they may never learn about such problems. After all, it just
takes 30sec for an email. The only one here who might make a couple of
bucks in 30sec is probably Jay :-)

Jay?

I think that Jay is going for "make Trump look like a piker."

On 2017-10-26 10:23, wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 10:01:36 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-26 07:56, wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:

Did you contact Sony about it? They have to defend a reputation
and should usually fall over backwards to make it right for
you. It can happen that their QA slips but it isn't supposed
to.

Come on Joerg - for a couple of bucks?


To me stuff like that is not just a matter of principle, an
otherwise reputable manufacturer has to know that this is
happening. If nobody alerts them they may never learn about such
problems. After all, it just takes 30sec for an email. The only one
here who might make a couple of bucks in 30sec is probably Jay :-)

Well, I agree but I don't have to be the one that takes more time and
effort and postage than the batteries cost.


A good company, if they want them back for an investigation, will
provide you with a shipper label and a 1-800 number. A quick call and
the shipper picks it up. Or drop it off in town.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/