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Old January 6th 19, 04:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


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Old January 6th 19, 04:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


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- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to a lot of other professions too.

Cheers
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Old January 6th 19, 07:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or lose.
At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to a lot
of other professions too.

Cheers


I haven't read much about this story, but he apparently passed a drug test
the day before the race, but then failed afterwards, for a substance that
takes much longer than days to have an effect. It could be a false
positive, or perhaps his alibi is true.

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Old January 7th 19, 04:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or lose.
At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to a lot
of other professions too.

Cheers


I haven't read much about this story, but he apparently passed a drug test
the day before the race, but then failed afterwards, for a substance that
takes much longer than days to have an effect. It could be a false
positive, or perhaps his alibi is true.


What's more the entire thing is pretty phony. They found a metabolite and not the drug itself. This drug is sometimes used to force cattle to grow faster. The UCI said that this 90 year old should have reported that he ate MEAT the day after his test.

What's more they didn't report the levels of the metabolite that would show whether there had been enough of the drug in his body to begin with to have ever had any effect.

Furthermore he could have gotten a metabolite and not the drug at all from eating meat.

They are taking the detection of drugs to such a high level that if you crap the day before they can tell. That would be fine were it in the least important in the performance of the athlete but it isn't.
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Old January 7th 19, 11:23 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default 90 year old doper caught

On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 19:12:01 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


-- - Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or
lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies
to a lot of other professions too.

Cheers


I haven't read much about this story, but he apparently passed a drug
test the day before the race, but then failed afterwards, for a
substance that takes much longer than days to have an effect. It could
be a false positive, or perhaps his alibi is true.


How would he know the meat was contaminated?
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Old January 8th 19, 06:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 3:23:41 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 19:12:01 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


-- - Frank Krygowski

It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or
lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies
to a lot of other professions too.

Cheers


I haven't read much about this story, but he apparently passed a drug
test the day before the race, but then failed afterwards, for a
substance that takes much longer than days to have an effect. It could
be a false positive, or perhaps his alibi is true.


How would he know the meat was contaminated?


Europeans, in particular, tend to "doctor" cattle with growth hormones. But this sort of drug requires weeks to take effect and if he tested negative the day before, the presence of metabolites the day after could hardly point to cheating. Many Cat 1's and 2's couldn't pass drug tests.
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Old January 6th 19, 11:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:29:02 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to a lot of other professions too.


Doping in athletics dates back to the original Greek Olympics.
--

Cheers,

John B.
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Old January 6th 19, 11:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:29:02 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski


It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or
lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to
a lot of other professions too.


Doping in athletics dates back to the original Greek Olympics.
--

Cheers,

John B.


Here's an interesting book to read, which deals with doping in sports.

https://www.velopress.com/books/spitting-in-the-soup/

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Old January 7th 19, 01:56 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 1/6/2019 6:40 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:29:02 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski

It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or
lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to
a lot of other professions too.


Doping in athletics dates back to the original Greek Olympics.
--

Cheers,

John B.


Here's an interesting book to read, which deals with doping in sports.

https://www.velopress.com/books/spitting-in-the-soup/


Actually, the issue is even bigger than sports. Does anyone think
there's any limit to the things they will give to fighter pilots or
other combatants to give them an edge?

And to prevent the shooting from starting, I've often wondered what
diplomats and politicians juice up on for cross-the-water trips. I know
that whenever I've gone to Europe, I've been pretty dazed for two days.
But someone like a Secretary of State is expected to jet over to Belgium
or wherever and deal effectively with rival diplomats who have shifted
their body clocks by one hour or less.

Might the Yalta Conference have gone differently if it was held in Boston?
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Old January 7th 19, 05:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 20:56:23 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 1/6/2019 6:40 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 08:29:02 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:17:15 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Lance's bad influence extends to all ages.

https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old...173702680.html


--
- Frank Krygowski

It's not how you play the game that counts; it's whether you win or
lose. At least it is according to a lot of athletes. It also applies to
a lot of other professions too.

Doping in athletics dates back to the original Greek Olympics.
--

Cheers,

John B.


Here's an interesting book to read, which deals with doping in sports.

https://www.velopress.com/books/spitting-in-the-soup/


Actually, the issue is even bigger than sports. Does anyone think
there's any limit to the things they will give to fighter pilots or
other combatants to give them an edge?

To my personal knowledge first-aid kits in the B-29 bombers used
during the Korean conflict contained amphetamines. They were delivered
to the airplane, usually during "pre-flight" and picked up after the
airplane landed.

I remember this as they weren't picked up after one mission and there
was a big to-do about it. It turned out that the first-aid kits were
still in the airplane and hadn't been opened, mainly as the ground
crews didn't know that they contained "goodies".

And to prevent the shooting from starting, I've often wondered what
diplomats and politicians juice up on for cross-the-water trips. I know
that whenever I've gone to Europe, I've been pretty dazed for two days.
But someone like a Secretary of State is expected to jet over to Belgium
or wherever and deal effectively with rival diplomats who have shifted
their body clocks by one hour or less.

Might the Yalta Conference have gone differently if it was held in Boston?

--

Cheers,

John B.
 




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