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Old September 30th 10, 03:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
William R. Mattil
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This kills me .....

He pops positive both A and B samples. Period. Then tries to explain
that it's food related. And statements have been made about the
concentration being low, so it's not a big deal. Argh...

Landis tried the same approach. Didn't work.

No such thing as a "Little Bit Pregnant"

The only good news here is that the result wasn't leaked by the lab g


I suspect the Tour will do nothing and that will be a travesty.

Maybe another 30 something positive drug tests and Lance gets another
Tour Victory and Laff will self destruct.


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Old September 30th 10, 11:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Frederick the Great
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In article ,
"William R. Mattil" wrote:

This kills me .....

He pops positive both A and B samples. Period. Then tries to explain
that it's food related. And statements have been made about the
concentration being low, so it's not a big deal. Argh...

Landis tried the same approach. Didn't work.

No such thing as a "Little Bit Pregnant"

The only good news here is that the result wasn't leaked by the lab g


I suspect the Tour will do nothing and that will be a travesty.

Maybe another 30 something positive drug tests and Lance gets another
Tour Victory and Laff will self destruct.


No glass is half full or half empty.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is a candyass.

* Test everybody at every race.

Or

* Cease all drug testing.

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Old October 1st 10, 12:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
RicodJour
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On Sep 30, 6:34*pm, Frederick the Great wrote:
In article ,
*"William R. Mattil" wrote:



This kills me .....


He pops positive both A and B samples. Period. Then tries to explain
that it's food related. And statements have been made about the
concentration being low, so it's not a big deal. Argh...


Landis tried the same approach. Didn't work.


No such thing as a "Little Bit Pregnant"


The only good news here is that the result wasn't leaked by the lab g


I suspect the Tour will do nothing and that will be a travesty.


Maybe another 30 something positive drug tests and Lance gets another
Tour Victory and Laff will self destruct.


No glass is half full or half empty.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is a candyass.

* * Test everybody at every race.

Or

* * Cease all drug testing.


You are so limited. There are no other options in your book? I'd
think that having the riders sign waivers, and then setting up
individual doped classifications would be a wonderful thing. Who
wouldn't want to see the Men's Elite Hallucinogenic Road Race? Or the
Liz Hatch Silicone Enhanced Time Trial...

"Wow! I love your new fairings!"

R
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Old October 1st 10, 02:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article
,
RicodJour wrote:

On Sep 30, 6:34Â*pm, Frederick the Great wrote:
In article ,
Â*"William R. Mattil" wrote:



This kills me .....


He pops positive both A and B samples. Period. Then tries to explain
that it's food related. And statements have been made about the
concentration being low, so it's not a big deal. Argh...


Landis tried the same approach. Didn't work.


No such thing as a "Little Bit Pregnant"


The only good news here is that the result wasn't leaked by the lab g


I suspect the Tour will do nothing and that will be a travesty.


Maybe another 30 something positive drug tests and Lance gets another
Tour Victory and Laff will self destruct.


No glass is half full or half empty.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is a candyass.

* Â* Test everybody at every race.

Or

* Â* Cease all drug testing.


You are so limited. There are no other options in your book? I'd
think that having the riders sign waivers, and then setting up
individual doped classifications would be a wonderful thing. Who
wouldn't want to see the Men's Elite Hallucinogenic Road Race?


Required. Referees dose each contestant at the sign in.
Could have a mystery dose ride, where the riders do
not know what they were given.

Or the
Liz Hatch Silicone Enhanced Time Trial...

"Wow! I love your new fairings!"


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Old October 1st 10, 04:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
RicodJour
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On Sep 30, 9:32*pm, Michael Press wrote:
*RicodJour wrote:
On Sep 30, 6:34*pm, Frederick the Great wrote:


* * Cease all drug testing.


You are so limited. *There are no other options in your book? *I'd
think that having the riders sign waivers, and then setting up
individual doped classifications would be a wonderful thing. *Who
wouldn't want to see the Men's Elite Hallucinogenic Road Race? *


Required. Referees dose each contestant at the sign in.
Could have a mystery dose ride, where the riders do
not know what they were given.


Le Magical Mystery Tour de France.

R

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Old October 1st 10, 06:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
DirtRoadie
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On Sep 30, 7:32*pm, Michael Press wrote:

Required. Referees dose each contestant at the sign in.
Could have a mystery dose ride, where the riders do
not know what they were given.


Why leave it a mystery? For a stage race use a handicap system on a
sliding scale where the lowest placed riders get full doses of the
*good* stuff and the leader gets a placebo. Takes race "tactics" to a
whole new level.

DR
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Old October 1st 10, 06:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fredmaster of Brainerd
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On Sep 30, 10:21*pm, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Sep 30, 7:32*pm, Michael Press wrote:

Required. Referees dose each contestant at the sign in.
Could have a mystery dose ride, where the riders do
not know what they were given.


Why leave it a mystery? For a stage race use a handicap system on a
sliding scale where the lowest placed riders get full doses of the
*good* stuff and the leader gets a placebo. Takes race "tactics" to a
whole new level.

DR


Cool, it will be just like Chang's Tour de Donuts but with
dope instead of donuts. Probably healthier.

Fredcruller Ben
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Old October 1st 10, 07:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
drmofe
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On Oct 1, 6:31*pm, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:

Cool, it will be just like Chang's Tour de Donuts but with
dope instead of donuts. *Probably healthier.


But the Tour de Donuts is more entertaining when you see one
domestique go back to the pack carrying donuts for the whole team...
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Old October 1st 10, 09:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Beloved Fred No. 1
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drmofe wrote:
But the Tour de Donuts is more entertaining when you see one
domestique go back to the pack carrying donuts for the whole team...


In which case the domestiques will have to be on Viagra.
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Old October 1st 10, 02:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Brad Anders
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On Sep 30, 10:21*pm, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Sep 30, 7:32*pm, Michael Press wrote:

Required. Referees dose each contestant at the sign in.
Could have a mystery dose ride, where the riders do
not know what they were given.


Why leave it a mystery? For a stage race use a handicap system on a
sliding scale where the lowest placed riders get full doses of the
*good* stuff and the leader gets a placebo. Takes race "tactics" to a
whole new level.

DR


I really like this idea, it's a lot like the weight handicapping
that's used in various forms of motorsport. They could have an
extended feature after each stage in a grand tour stage, where the
bottom half of the GC lines up to eagerly wait for their "SuperTurbo"
shot of EPO, HGC, various stimulants, and T. The camera could pan to
their excited faces as they get their fix. Then, just before the
stage, they could interview selected riders, "GodDAMN IT! My 'friggin
heart feels like an ALLIGATOR! I'm ready to KICK SOME ASS!"

Hey, if the sport is going the way of WWE, it needs some more kick to
it.

Brad Anders
 




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