This had to result in some positives

Dumbasses -


Check this out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-...nt-study_N.htm

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
Dumbasses -


Check this out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-...nt-study_N.htm



Old news. Any athlete who uses the supplemental contamination argument
is clueless and should fire his agent and his trainer. This has been
discussed ad nauseum for the past 5 years and was responsible for
numerous high-profile bans (i.e. Olympic bobsledder in 2002).

This article in 2007 is the revelatory equivalent of a reporter writing
in 1995 about how driving while intoxicated can cause accidents.

USA Today is, and always has been, a coloring book.


Magilla

Androstenedione is well known in bodybuilding circles as 4-AD. It has
a conversion rate of approximately 17% to testosterone. Suppose you
assume an anabolic dose of about 500mg/week of testosterone you'd need
to take about 400mg of 4-AD day. I don't call that traces anymore,
thats a main component.
It unlikely that the quantities available in those supplements would
do anything good. In fact, its more likely that in young healthy
individuals the negative hormonal feedback loop drops natural
testosterone production leaving a defecit if you go off the
supplement. It might be favorable for men +40 who have a naturally
decline testosterone production for whom these things are intended for
anyway. It's more of a testosterone replacement therapy then which
ironically can be obtained as a prescription therapy.
In any case it will never have affected performance for endurance
athletes using test-boosters.

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
Dumbasses -


Check this out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-...nt-study_N.htm

On Dec 5, 11:06 am, webhead wrote:
Androstenedione is well known in bodybuilding circles as 4-AD. It has
a conversion rate of approximately 17% to testosterone.

dumbass,

the only thing you can ingest that converts to testosterone is beer.

wrote:
the only thing you can ingest that converts to testosterone is beer.

I thought it was the chemical reaction between beer and jack
daniels.

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
Dumbasses -


Check this out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-...nt-study_N.htm

And once again, the people that did the study declined to identify
the contaminated products. Pussies.

Bob Schwartz

On Dec 5, 8:52 pm, "
wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:06 am, webhead wrote:

Androstenedione is well known in bodybuilding circles as 4-AD. It has
a conversion rate of approximately 17% to testosterone.

dumbass,

the only thing you can ingest that converts to testosterone is beer.

If you stop drinking and notice you can't get it up anymore you're
probably right.

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:41:02 -0800 (PST), Kurgan Gringioni
wrote:

Dumbasses -


Check this out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-...nt-study_N.htm

Whoa.

On Dec 5, 12:29 pm, Bob Schwartz
wrote:
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
Dumbasses -

Check this out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-...nt-study_N.htm

And once again, the people that did the study declined to identify
the contaminated products. Pussies.

"The study was overseen by Informed-Choice, a non-profit coalition of
dietary supplements."

I assume that should be "dietary supplement suppliers."

So there could be conditions on funding that keeps them from doing
revealing that for obvious reasons. Are you actually Lafferty posting
as the boobie doctor?

"webhead" wrote in message
...
On Dec 5, 8:52 pm, "
wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:06 am, webhead wrote:

Androstenedione is well known in bodybuilding circles as 4-AD. It has
a conversion rate of approximately 17% to testosterone.

dumbass,

the only thing you can ingest that converts to testosterone is beer.

If you stop drinking and notice you can't get it up anymore you're
probably right.

Amit never had anything to get up.