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Conti Contact Security vs Schwalbe Marathon Plus cycle tires
Jay Bollyn wrote:
"TJ" wrote in message ... http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks I am quite happy with SM+ for Chicago city commuting. I hate flats, and I don't get any. As far as I am concerned (personally), this issue is closed. Unless the tires are discontinued (e.g. Schwalbe City Jet), or moved to production in a country that results in a significant drop in quality (e.g. Tioga Comp Pool). -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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On Feb 24, 5:20*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote: Jay Bollyn wrote: "TJ" wrote in message ... http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks I am quite happy with SM+ for Chicago city commuting. I hate flats, and I don't get any. As far as I am concerned (personally), this issue is closed. Unless the tires are discontinued (e.g. Schwalbe City Jet), or moved to production in a country that results in a significant drop in quality (e.g. Tioga Comp Pool). -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A Conti TT with thornproof tube beats a Schwalbe Marathon 8 days a week. compare the stats |
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On Feb 24, 10:20*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote: Jay Bollyn wrote: "TJ" wrote in message ... http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks I am quite happy with SM+ for Chicago city commuting. I hate flats, and I don't get any. As far as I am concerned (personally), this issue is closed. Unless the tires are discontinued (e.g. Schwalbe City Jet), or moved to production in a country that results in a significant drop in quality (e.g. Tioga Comp Pool). And unless there is a significant price difference. Though the recommended retail price is about the same for the Schwalbe Marathon Plus and the Bontrager Satellite Elite Hardcase, from the discounters the Bontrager was about 60 per cent the price the last time I looked. As I have both and cannot for the life of me see any significant difference, a 40 per cent price difference would have to feature in my decision. Andre Jute http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...20CYCLING.html |
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On Feb 24, 8:09*pm, Andre Jute wrote:
I am quite happy with SM+ for Chicago city commuting. I hate flats, and I don't get any. As far as I am concerned (personally), this issue is closed. And unless there is a significant price difference. Though the recommended retail price is about the same for the Schwalbe Marathon Plus and the Bontrager Satellite Elite Hardcase, from the discounters the Bontrager was about 60 per cent the price the last time I looked. As I have both and cannot for the life of me see any significant difference, a 40 per cent price difference would have to feature in my decision. I have Schwalbe Marathon Plus on one of my TREK 520 bikes and Bontrager Select K (with a kevlar strip inside) on the other. Both have worn well with minimum flats. The Schwalbe's have gone about 10,000 miles with just two flats. The Bontrager rear tire wore out more quickly than that but still wore longer than most tires, and with only a couple flats. I'll replace the Schwalbes before my next long ride this summer. I am not familiar with the Satellite Elite Hardcase. How does it compare with the Select K? I did not have good luck with thorn resistant tubes. Several of them had stem failures. Using a separate Kevlar lining with a thin tube wasn't good because the sharp edge on the Kevlar caused flats. So I went to the Select K. And then also the Schwalbe's after I had heard about them. |
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Tom Sherman wrote: Jay Bollyn wrote: "TJ" wrote in message ... http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks I am quite happy with SM+ for Chicago city commuting. I hate flats, and I don't get any. As far as I am concerned (personally), this issue is closed. Unless the tires are discontinued (e.g. Schwalbe City Jet), or moved to production in a country that results in a significant drop in quality (e.g. Tioga Comp Pool). that happened to me; i used to like vittirio (?) Courier TTs. kevlar belted, pretty bullet proof, durable and i liked the colors. out of production it appears, wish i'd bought a few extra. |
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Tom Anderson wrote:
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml I note that the 26" version is only rated up to 58 psi, and they recommend only 45 psi. That seems incredibly low for a road tyre. Not for a *fat* road tyre. The ones with the 58 ratings are 1.75" and 47mm. That's fat for "road" tyre. 58 psi will make them hard enough, missus. Speed fans won't be interested in such heavy tyres anyway. ~PB |
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http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqS...jsp?ssid=Tubes would a nice boy like pablo battani steer you wrong? i just recently discombobulated a spec nipple neck for several miles- like 75-without streessing the rubber. the specs are weight and carcass comparisons not price. A TT is in a completely different and sportier class than a Marathon. While a Marathon or Pasela or? commutes, the TT is GT, it's a forgiving life saving tire made commute reliable with a thicker tube. The Marathon/Messenger class are reliable but a hassle for directional control or stability: A loser over quickly varying surfaces: tar sand tar sand tar on the shoulder next to traffic. That fact leads to using a sport tire such as a Conti TT/thornproof on the front Tire liners allow slime to work correctly with a very close mating surface the inner side of the tire's contac area cannot give. Fluid flow presses outward from it's hole, sealing and preventing air release. Liners are destructive from overlap and side edge pressures on the tube so periodic maybe 3-400 mile tube checks at hi pressures are necessary avoiding unpleasant surprises. Good for touring or a Tour singular. |
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, TJ wrote: http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks I've never ridden a Schwalbe and so can't directly compare the Conti Contact Security's characteristics against it. Still, my impression after almost a winter's season's worth of riding a CCS, on the rear wheel only, has yielded these observations: the Conti is heavy, harsh and has a noticeably higher rolling resistance (against the other puncture resistant tire I've had extensive experience with: Panaracer Pasela with Tourguard). My experience corroborates Conti's assertion that the Contact Security does not make for comfortable riding. No flats on the Conti though, but the Pasela on the front hasn't had a flat either. I opted for the Contis only after efforts of sourcing a set of Marathons locally proved fruitless -- they were a second choice to begin with. If I could repeat the exercise I'd try harder to get my hands on a set of Marathons instead. |
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On Feb 25, 7:39*am, Luke wrote:
In article , TJ wrote: http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks I've never ridden a Schwalbe and so can't directly compare the Conti Contact Security's characteristics against it. Still, my impression after almost a winter's season's worth of riding a CCS, on the rear wheel only, has yielded these observations: the Conti is heavy, harsh and has a noticeably higher rolling resistance (against the other puncture resistant tire I've had extensive experience with: Panaracer Pasela with Tourguard). My experience corroborates Conti's assertion that the Contact Security does not make for comfortable riding. No flats on the Conti though, but the Pasela on the front hasn't had a flat either. I opted for the Contis only after efforts of sourcing a set of Marathons locally proved fruitless -- they were a second choice to begin with. If I could repeat the exercise I'd try harder to get my hands on a set of Marathons instead.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...p?category=625 The Panaracer Pasela isnot a commuter's tire. The Pasela is a niche market around the block tire for Sunday afternoons. The Conti Security isn't harsh, it grips loose surfaces without resorting to knobs, louvers and gearhackles. If it didn't grip then it would be termed harsh. You see the distinction? |
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datakoll wrote:
The Conti Security isn't harsh, it grips loose surfaces without resorting to knobs, louvers and gearhackles. If it didn't grip then it would be termed harsh. You see the distinction? Errr, not really. To me, I'd take "harsh" as "not comfortable", nothing to do with how it grips things. My rockboots grip rock magnificently well, but they're harsh on my feet. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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