Conti Contact Security vs Schwalbe Marathon Plus cycle tires

In article ,
"Dave Larrington" writes:
In ,
Colin Campbell tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:

And how many animals misuse "it's" twice in two sentences? I thought
the UK had something to do with the English language.

Which part of "Continental, Germany tells us..." is related to the UK,
please?

I guess Continental Tires[tm] are not
incontinent anywhere in Europe or penEurope.
Hopefully. I don't know how that relates
to Iceland or Greenland, or Sable Island.

I'm not sure if the Azores and the Canary Islands
are penEuropean or penAfrican. Then there's Cyprus --
is that penEuropean, penAfrican or penAsian?
Or maybe we should leave that one alone.

Maybe Depends[tm] should proffer inner tubes.
Tire liners, anyway.

hmmm ... Slime[tm] as an incontinence product ...


cheers,
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Tom Keats wrote:
snip

I recall how a couple of years ago some news media
talking heads tried to coin: "truthiness."
I'm glad it never caught on. At least, I hope
it didn't.


cheers,
Tom

The word "truthiness" was coined by television comedian Steven Colbert
as a satirical term. He defines it as "truth that comes from the gut,
not books". Colbert uses the term (in a comical manner) to lampoon the
rhetoric of politicians and political commentators that depend on base
emotional appeals (as opposed to appeals to wisdom and logic).

The American Dialect Society defines truthiness as: "the quality of
preferring concepts or facts one wishes to be true, rather than concepts
or facts known to be true"

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/06words.htm
http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=24039

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I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

Colin Campbell and JB devolved from tires to language for the last 20
remarks.
with one attempt to link the regression to tire ads.
Incroyable!

On Feb 26, 3:58*pm, datakoll wrote:
Colin Campbell and JB devolved from tires to language for the last 20
remarks.
with one attempt to link the regression to tire ads.
Incroyable!

I did create a separate thread to discuss Andrew's linguistic point at
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.bi...9ec2166ce78411
but everyone 'cept thee and me seems to prefer muddying the technical
waters of TJ's thread.

Andre Jute
Neat drawers

Andrew Muzi writes:

Some old fogies (me) are driven to distraction on hearing things
like 'orientated'. I, for one, have learned to smile and walk
away, no one being interested in my opinions of language.
Languages degrade; get over it.

What is your methodology on that? I notice that:

Psychology: Study of Psychological matters
Mineralogy: Study of minerals
Theology: Study of religion and deities
Biology: Study of plants and animals
etc...

Therefore, consistent with the language, the word originally meant the
study of methods of one kind or another, whereas the common use seems
to be a more imposing word for method.

It's like "my personal opinion on that" aka "I believe..." but the
overwhelming majority of these long words and phrases seem to be used
to be more impressive. I'm with Andrew, for me these flourishes cast
doubt on what the writer has to say.

Sometimes it is a dodge from the fear of expressing an opinion,
because being opinionated is horrid. That's why writers often use
"hopefully you'll succeed" rather than "I hope you succeed" in order
to not express an opinion.

What a bunch of dangling adverbialism!...

Ever notice how public speakers, especially political candidates, use
'myself' or 'we' rather than 'me' or 'I'?

.... for fear of being called an egotist. "Me me me first!" as
children are taught not to say. Old dogs don't learn fast or at all.

Jobst Brandt

Michael Press writes:

http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml

Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is:
"Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can
also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof
breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on
factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a
comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it
does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches
in the city."

The page also says "The tread derives it?s superb function from a
closer look at nature?s solutions. Animal paws were the model for
designing the tread pattern and it?s surface!"

How many animals have wheels and travel primarily on pavement?

And how many animals misuse "it's" twice in two sentences? I
thought the UK had something to do with the English language.

That language is no longer taught in schools as is apparent from
(lie/lay), (effect/impact), (affect/impact) and other speech
embellishments "overwhelming majority" aka "most" that we see all the
time.

Its the overwhelming majority of these kinds of things that give
wreck.bike a lack of clarity.

aka

Most of these things make wreck.bike unclear.

I enjoy going after thoughtless qualifiers such as "very unique" or
"potentially dangerous". Check out books on style. There is only
one message in all of them. When you meet a qualifier on the road,
kill it.

That's like "Elements of Style" telling the writer to make a "which"
hunt, a more subtle lack of style than the overwhelming majority of
puffed up wordinesses.

Jobst Brandt

Denotations, connotations aside, most meet a logical standard capable
of communication at the confluence of education, money, and interest.

However, when a Pasela tourgard is defined commuter...
Or tester A compares B to C from comparing B to E...
or sez spoke length equals ERD agin and again when that's impossibilbe
and generally dissed...

Universal describes a $14 pasela as "commuter" Universal's
nomenclature is limited.

A Top Contact is available as an alternative to a Security. A
comparison to Schwalbe's best touring tire or GT commuter is welcome.
And let's rid ourselves of "is" isssssssssssssszzzzzz. Now there's a
crappy word: is. accchhhh! happy?

700c x 37/42 may not be available in NA. The extra width with
"recommended" inlfation pressures may overcome the slipperiness they
mentioned.

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...p?category=590


http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...8&category=590

On Feb 26, 6:40*am, Michael Press wrote:
In article ,



wrote:
Colin Campbell writes:

*http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml

Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is

"Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can
also perform well in everyday use. *Its massive puncture-proof
breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on
factory grounds. *In view of its tough construction, it is not a
comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does
effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the
city."

The page also says "The tread derives it¹s superb function from a
closer look at nature¹s solutions. *Animal paws were the model for
designing the tread pattern and it¹s surface!"

How many animals have wheels and travel primarily on pavement?

And how many animals misuse "it's" twice in two sentences? *I
thought the UK had something to do with the English language.

That language is no longer taught in schools as is apparent from
(lie/lay), (effect/impact), (affect/impact) and other speech
embellishments "overwhelming majority" aka "most" that we see all the
time.

Its the overwhelming majority of these kinds of things that give
wreck.bike a lack of clarity.

aka

Most of these things make wreck.bike unclear.

I enjoy going after thoughtless qualifiers such as
`very unique' or `potentially dangerous'. *Check out
books on style. There is only one message in all of
them. When you meet a qualifier on the road, kill it.

That's advice for dullards. Style is not about being correctly dull
but about making the rules work for you, and especially to make them
work for you strikingly when you break them, which presupposes that
you know the rules and when to break them to best effect. One of the
good reasons to use modifiers rarely is to protect the impact of the
few you do use.

Of your two examples, dear Michael, "very unique" is a logical
impossibility which doesn't need the modifier rule to earn a death
sentence, and "potentially dangerous" is perfectly good English where
the context permits, as in "a decision that is potentially dangerous
because we do not yet know all the facts which will bear on the
outcome".

--
Michael Press

Cheers.

Andre Jute
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On Feb 26, 3:46*pm, Paul O wrote:
Tom Keats wrote:

snip

I recall how a couple of years ago some news media
talking heads tried to coin: "truthiness."
I'm glad it never caught on. *At least, I hope
it didn't.

cheers,
* *Tom

The word "truthiness" was coined by television comedian Steven Colbert
as a satirical term. He defines it as "truth that comes from the gut,
not books". Colbert uses the term (in a comical manner) to lampoon the
rhetoric of politicians and political commentators that depend on base
emotional appeals (as opposed to appeals to wisdom and logic).

The American Dialect Society defines truthiness as: "the quality of
preferring concepts or facts one wishes to be true, rather than concepts
or facts known to be true"

That's just a fancy word for plain, ordinary wishful thinking aka
lovesick teenage mooning. Political economists have an even more
impressive phrase: "the normative case". Nobody talks back to you on
the gogglebox once you mention the normative case, because it cloaks
the most stupid of political plans in moral superiority. Communism
traded on that for eight decades, which accounts for the normative
case, a perfectly good tool in the hands of libertarians, being
somewhat in disgrace.

Andre Jute
Not a commiepinkofellowtraveller

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/06words.htm
http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=....

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Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)