Zefal Isotherm water bottle keeps water coldest?

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:28:21 GMT, the black rose
wrote:
Today's stage (12) had some surprises and really shook up the standings.
Pretty exciting stuff.

If there weren't cows involved, I'm probably not interested.
--
Rick Onanian

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(Tom Keats) wrote:

In article ,
Ryan Cousineau writes:

Plant chocolate mint. Yes, that's an actual plant. Tastes nice, and is
dangerously invasive!

Sounds interesting; I'm intrigued. My experience with real,
botanical mint is limited to spearmint and peppermint.

It has fairly pretty as well as tasty leaves: dark green in the middle,
less dark (though still darker than spearmint) at the edges. Serrrated
edges like most mints. I can't remember what the flowers look like, if
any.

Well, not invasive like that stupid columbine, but it's currently waging
^^^^^^^^^
war against the dandelions,

I think maybe you mean bindweed? (aka morning glory, although
there are some well-behaved, annual morning glory cultivars.)
It's been quite a while since I've seen a wild columbine.
They're quite understatedly pretty, but they're stand-alone-ish,
and unfortunately they don't withstand transplanting.

Yes. the wacky grabby thing that spirals around other plants and has
pretty white flowers. My family always called it morning glory, my
lovely bride's family calls it columbine, but I like bindweed.

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(Hunrobe) wrote:

"Claire Petersky"

wrote in part:

I've always
wanted to plant mint again, but considering its invasive nature, I haven't
dared.

Would planting it in windowsill flower boxes solve that problem?

Probably. As far as I can tell, it doesn't spread aggressively by
seeding, merely by sending out root structures either just above or just
below the soil surface. So one year you have a mint plant, then next
year you have a lot of mint shoots coming up, and so on...

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brian-s-jones-at-comcast.net wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:31:40 -0700, Ryan Cousineau
wrote:

Yes. the wacky grabby thing that spirals around other plants and has
pretty white flowers. My family always called it morning glory, my
lovely bride's family calls it columbine, but I like bindweed.

Columbine is a very beautiful plant...far from invasive. The flowers
are quite striking. Grows wild in some parts of the country...we have
planted many of them in our garden in NW Washington (State).

I agree. I couldn't get the columbine complaint, but now that I know it's
bindweed, yeah, sure.

FWIW, I tried the sprig of mint thing in my water bottle for STP. Despite
the weird black stuff growing in the bottle by the end of the ride, the
water tasted minty fresh for the entire 200 mile ride.


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On 20 Jul 2004 21:38:33 -0700, (Claire Petersky)
wrote:
FWIW, I tried the sprig of mint thing in my water bottle for STP. Despite
the weird black stuff growing in the bottle by the end of the ride, the
water tasted minty fresh for the entire 200 mile ride.

With diluted sports drink or other lightly-mixed flavorings, I don't
get the black stuff unless I leave it unrefrigerated for a week. In
the fridge, if I don't empty the bottle (or at least cycle it with
infusions of fresh stuff) it will grow black stuff in a couple
months time.

Does anybody know if the black stuff that grows in sports drinks is
safe? I've drank small amounts of drinks with it a couple times
before realizing it was there. Stupid translucent speckled water
bottles.
--
Rick Onanian

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Rick Onanian writes:

Does anybody know if the black stuff that grows in sports drinks is
safe? I've drank small amounts of drinks with it a couple times
before realizing it was there. Stupid translucent speckled water
bottles.

A solution of chlorine bleach & water of the same strength
you'd use to clean coffee stains off a mug makes short work
of getting rid of that stuff.


cheers,
Tom

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Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
Rick Onanian writes:


Does anybody know if the black stuff that grows in sports drinks is
safe? I've drank small amounts of drinks with it a couple times
before realizing it was there. Stupid translucent speckled water
bottles.


A solution of chlorine bleach & water of the same strength
you'd use to clean coffee stains off a mug makes short work
of getting rid of that stuff.

And would you believe, so does plain old white vinegar. To be perfectly
honest, the black stuff *does* come back faster after a vinegar
treatment. And the smell of vinegar killing the black stuff is
atrocious. But it's non-toxic (unless you're allergic to vinegar) and
you don't need to worry about the traces of vinegar that get behind.

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the black rose
GO LANCE GO!!!
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In article ,
the black rose wrote:

Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
Rick Onanian writes:


Does anybody know if the black stuff that grows in sports drinks is
safe? I've drank small amounts of drinks with it a couple times
before realizing it was there. Stupid translucent speckled water
bottles.


A solution of chlorine bleach & water of the same strength
you'd use to clean coffee stains off a mug makes short work
of getting rid of that stuff.

And would you believe, so does plain old white vinegar. To be perfectly
honest, the black stuff *does* come back faster after a vinegar
treatment. And the smell of vinegar killing the black stuff is
atrocious. But it's non-toxic (unless you're allergic to vinegar) and
you don't need to worry about the traces of vinegar that get behind.

Very diluted chlorine bleach is a standard water treatment in
circumstances where more pleasant-tasting treatments are not available
or too expensive. It's not terribly dangerous, and the taste will
positively reinforce your desire to rinse out the bottle thoroughly.

But doesn't everyone just wash their bottles regularly? I put sports
drink (SISU Hydrade), diluted orange juice, and water through my bottles
regularly, but I also wash them after almost every use (I'm more lax if
it just had water in it). You're washing dishes anyways, right?

No scary black stuff so far,
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Ryan Cousineau, http://www.wiredcola.com
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
You're washing dishes anyways, right?

*cough* I don't do dishes. I have a husband and 3 sons still at home
who can do that.

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the black rose
GO LANCE GO!!!
proud to be owned by a yorkie
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

In article ,
the black rose wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
You're washing dishes anyways, right?

*cough* I don't do dishes. I have a husband and 3 sons still at home
who can do that.

"You" in the sense of the French "on," then, rather than "vous." Make
'em wash your bottles then.

The Lovely One generally leaves the washing-up to me,
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Ryan Cousineau, http://www.wiredcola.com
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club