Motorists, Red and Green, learn the difference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg

On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg

After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything else
is trivial detail.

On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 09:36:05 UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg

After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything else
is trivial detail.

But it demonstrates how much these 'Highly Trained', 'Qualified', "Rude Tax paying' motorists know about the Highway Code.
The majority of 'Law Abiding' motorists think you only have to stop at a red light after is has been red for 30 seconds, speed limits are optional and Pedestrian Zone is pronounced 'Free Car Park' or 'Short Cut".

On 22/12/2020 00:33, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 09:36:05 UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg

After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything
else is trivial detail.

But it demonstrates how much these 'Highly Trained', 'Qualified',
"Rude Tax paying' motorists know about the Highway Code.

It's a good response to those that say that cyclists should pass test,
be insured and pay tax. But there is plenty in the Highway Code that is
only useful for rote learning for a quiz show but it serves no practical
purpose knowing it word for word.

Braking distances, for instance. Some people can quote the numbers but
how many sit in the car and point to the spot on the road that is so
many metres ahead? Can you do that? And if you can, what practical use
is it?

The majority of 'Law Abiding' motorists think you only have to stop
at a red light after is has been red for 30 seconds, speed limits are
optional and Pedestrian Zone is pronounced 'Free Car Park' or 'Short
Cut".

The point is that knowledge doesn't stop people doing such things.

On 12/23/20 10:13 AM, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/12/2020 00:33, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 09:36:05 UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg

After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything
else is trivial detail.

But it demonstrates how much these 'Highly Trained', 'Qualified',
"Rude Tax paying' motorists know about the Highway Code.

It's a good response to those that say that cyclists should pass test,
be insured and pay tax. But there is plenty in the Highway Code that is
only useful for rote learning for a quiz show but it serves no practical
purpose knowing it word for word.

Braking distances, for instance. Some people can quote the numbers but
how many sit in the car and point to the spot on the road that is so
many metres ahead? Can you do that? And if you can, what practical use
is it?

Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier.
Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"?

The majority of 'Law Abiding' motorists think you only have to stop
at a red light after is has been red for 30 seconds, speed limits are
optional and Pedestrian Zone is pronounced 'Free Car Park' or 'Short
Cut".

The point is that knowledge doesn't stop people doing such things.

Yes, but is amusing when the pontificate on it :-)

On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote:
On 12/23/20 10:13 AM, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/12/2020 00:33, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 09:36:05 UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg

After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything
else is trivial detail.

But it demonstrates how much these 'Highly Trained', 'Qualified',
"Rude Tax paying' motorists know about the Highway Code.

It's a good response to those that say that cyclists should pass test,
be insured and pay tax. But there is plenty in the Highway Code that
is only useful for rote learning for a quiz show but it serves no
practical purpose knowing it word for word.

Braking distances, for instance. Some people can quote the numbers but
how many sit in the car and point to the spot on the road that is so
many metres ahead? Can you do that? And if you can, what practical use
is it?

Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier.
Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"?

That only helps to avoid running into the back of the vehicle ahead
where the driver of it has had to react to the pedestrian in the road.

If you sit in the driving seat and have a person walk away from your car
to the point where you might be able to avoid running them over from
30mph, it is actually quite thought provoking.

The majority of 'Law Abiding' motorists think you only have to stop
at a red light after is has been red for 30 seconds, speed limits are
optional and Pedestrian Zone is pronounced 'Free Car Park' or 'Short
Cut".

The point is that knowledge doesn't stop people doing such things.

Yes, but is amusing when the pontificate on it :-)

Indeed.

On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote:

Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier.
Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"?

That's distance to follow a vehicle to give you enough time to stop
should they 'slam on'. It has nothing to do with red lights.

On 12/27/20 11:56 AM, soup wrote:
On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote:

Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier.
Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"?

That's distance to follow a vehicle to give you enough time to stop
should they 'slam on'.Â* It has nothing to do with red lights.

So you think there is merit in memorizing speed vs stopping distances?

On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 7:24:22 PM UTC, Tosspot wrote:
On 12/27/20 11:56 AM, soup wrote:
On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote:

Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier.
Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"?

That's distance to follow a vehicle to give you enough time to stop
should they 'slam on'. It has nothing to do with red lights.
So you think there is merit in memorizing speed vs stopping distances?

We spell it as "memorising" in UK English.

On 27/12/2020 19:24, Tosspot wrote:
On 12/27/20 11:56 AM, soup wrote:
On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote:

Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier.
Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"?

That's distance to follow a vehicle to give you enough time to stop
should they 'slam on'.Â* It has nothing to do with red lights.

So you think there is merit in memorizing speed vs stopping distances?

Only for pub quizzes.

In real life, the issue is dealt with by instinct, knowledge of the
vehicle's braking capacity, "feel" for road surfaces, etc.

When the Ford Fiesta was a new thing, I had one. The brakes, even though
servo-assisted, were atrocious. I had it back in the workshop several
times to be adjusted, tested on the rolling road machine, etc. They said
the brakes were OK. I knew they weren't. Certainly not as good as those
on the Mini I'd part-ex'd for it. Bit by bit, I learned to adjust and
make allowances, but I was never happy with it. You shouldn't have to
make allowances like that.