Survey - Lorry Drivers vs Cyclists

In article , Marc says...

On 19/01/2010 01:29, Conor wrote:
In , Marc says...

Irrelevant, unless you can find examples of "scientists" having to be
forced by legislation to stop their actions then there is no comparison
between the trustworthiness of scientists and lorry drivers.

How about the legislation on cloning? They were prevented from
attempting to clone a human, even to the embryonic stage, after "Dolly
the sheep" came to being.


Show me the X,000s of cloned humans that were made before the
legislation was finally brought in to stop this?

They weren't because as soon as cloning was proven to be able to produce
a living entity, the law was changed to prevent human cloning - THIS IS
EXACTLY THE EXAMPLE YOU WANTED SOMEONE TO GIVE as it proves that
scientists were forced by legislation to stop their actions.

Now compare this with
the number of times that lorry drivers wee shown to be untrustworthy and
had to have their behaviour curbed.

Look at the goalposts move.

BTW, cloning isn't the sole example of scientists having the brakes
applied by legislation....

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Conor

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:38:56 +0000, JMS
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:29:21 -0000, "mileburner"
wrote:

Vicko Zoomba wrote:
On 16 Jan, 22:14, Marc wrote:

There isn't one, there aren't enough literate lorry drivers for it
to be worth the effort.

ho ho ho....well as a lorry driver I'm probably educated far higher
than you will ever be.

Err, no you are wrong. Marc would win on the education comparison.



I don't think that an Open University degree is anything special - do
you?

BSc Hons (Open) , Systems thinking, Environment and Policy


Come on then "mileburner" - what were you saying about Round's
educational achievements.

Has he asked you to stfu - many seem to be doing that.

I am not certain but I have been told that "BSc Hons (Open) , Systems
thinking, Environment and Policy" is what he has; it will impress
Mason if nothing else.

In article , JMS says...

I am not certain but I have been told that "BSc Hons (Open) , Systems
thinking, Environment and Policy" is what he has;

Another mickey mouse degree...


--
Conor

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.

On 19/01/2010 14:22, Conor wrote:
In , Marc says...

On 19/01/2010 01:29, Conor wrote:
In , Marc says...

Irrelevant, unless you can find examples of "scientists" having to be
forced by legislation to stop their actions then there is no comparison
between the trustworthiness of scientists and lorry drivers.

How about the legislation on cloning? They were prevented from
attempting to clone a human, even to the embryonic stage, after "Dolly
the sheep" came to being.


Show me the X,000s of cloned humans that were made before the
legislation was finally brought in to stop this?

They weren't because as soon as cloning was proven to be able to produce
a living entity, the law was changed to prevent human cloning - THIS IS
EXACTLY THE EXAMPLE YOU WANTED SOMEONE TO GIVE as it proves that
scientists were forced by legislation to stop their actions.

I suggest you read a bit closer.

Now compare this with
the number of times that lorry drivers wee shown to be untrustworthy and
had to have their behaviour curbed.

Look at the goalposts move.

BTW, cloning isn't the sole example of scientists having the brakes
applied by legislation....

Of course it's not...

"JMS" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:34:21 -0000, "OG"
wrote:


"JMS" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:27:36 -0000, "OG"
wrote:


"JMS" wrote in message
m...
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:25:40 +0000, Phil W Lee
phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk wrote:

"OG" considered Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:58:02
-0000 the perfect time to write:



snip


That was how you responded to the survey?

If so, we'd better warn CTC that it's now doubly invalid, since they
were looking for responses from cyclists to this survey, and truckers
in the other (so far undiscovered) one.


I am an occasional cyclist - are you saying that my views do not
count?


Of course they count, I just wonder whether those were your actual
responses
that you submitted to the survey.



I was asking Lee as he was suggesting "warning" the CTC for some
reason, if that was I had responded; perhaps he could explain.


Clearly you didn't actually respond to the survey in the way you claimed.

I don't know why you didnt just say "No I didn't respond in that way".


Why are the answers I gave here , "clearly" not my actual response?

Because the survey doesn't accept responses without all questions answered.

Pretty obvious really.

On Jan 18, 12:59*am, JMS wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:25:40 +0000, Phil W Lee

phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk wrote:
"OG" considered Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:58:02
-0000 the perfect time to write:

snip

That was how you responded to the survey?

If so, we'd better warn CTC that it's now doubly invalid, since they
were looking for responses from cyclists to this survey, and truckers
in the other (so far undiscovered) one.

I am an occasional cyclist - are you saying that my views do not
count?

I think he may be. That was what the survey instructions said anyway
"If you are a /regular/ cyclist, please answer the 10 questions that
follow. "
BTW, When you noted the absence of a neutral response to question 7
and advised people not to answer it, did you not notice the final
option "I do not have any problems sharing the road with lorries/Does
not apply to me"?

best wishes
james