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Police get tough with scofflaws
On 02/06/2013 07:58, thirty-six wrote:
On 1 June, 10:06, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 01/06/2013 02:14, thirty-six wrote: On May 31, 11:39 am, JNugent wrote: On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. fro m the article in question it seems that an officer for the crown collection agency believed that the cyclist's thinking be wrong and decided he could arrest despite there being no evidence that any signage (whether or not exists) was contravened with intent, or otherwise. By all accounts presented, this appears to be an unlawful arrest causing personal injury and unnecessary detention. FFS we have another one. Large latte & an espresso please. -- Dave - Cyclists VORC Bicycles are for Children. Like masturbation, something you should grow out of. There is something seriously sick and stunted about grown men who want to ride a bike." the woman was arrested despite no witness that she had contravened any regulation that applied to her and the location in the presence of appropriate signage. Apart from the police officer who witnessed the (alleged) offence, you mean? And apart from her trying to abscond? |
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On 2 June, 11:56, JNugent wrote:
On 02/06/2013 07:58, thirty-six wrote: On 1 June, 10:06, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 01/06/2013 02:14, thirty-six wrote: On May 31, 11:39 am, JNugent wrote: On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. fro m the article in question it seems that an officer for the crown collection agency believed that the cyclist's thinking be wrong and decided he could arrest despite there being no evidence that any signage (whether or not exists) was contravened with intent, or otherwise. * By all accounts presented, this appears to be an unlawful arrest causing personal injury and unnecessary detention. FFS we have another one. Large latte & an espresso please. -- Dave - Cyclists VORC Bicycles are for Children. *Like masturbation, something you should grow out of. There is something seriously sick and stunted about grown men who want to ride a bike." the woman was arrested despite no witness that she had contravened any regulation that applied to her and the location in the presence of appropriate signage. Apart from the police officer who witnessed the (alleged) offence, you mean? And apart from her trying to abscond? What precisely did he witness, as stated in the article, and what have you imagined? Please give supporting "evidence" for your answer by quoting from the article, if you believe you can. |
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"thirty-six" wrote in message ... On 1 June, 14:02, JNugent wrote: On 01/06/2013 02:14, thirty-six wrote: On May 31, 11:39 am, JNugent wrote: On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. fro m the article in question it seems that an officer for the crown collection agency A police officer, you mean? believed that the cyclist's thinking be wrong You have no reason for it to "seem" that way to you. Thinking is a personal matter. The cyclist was arrested for seeking to leave the scene of her observed breach of the law - that is, her illegal *action*, not her improper thought. What precisely have you ascertained was observed directly from reading the article and what have you imagined? and decided he could arrest despite there being no evidence that any signage (whether or not exists) was contravened with intent, or otherwise. By all accounts presented, this appears to be an unlawful arrest causing personal injury and unnecessary detention. Really? Do you believe that she didn't know that the street was one-way, despite signage to say so (as there always is) It has not been reported that there was adequate signage. It has not been reported that the woman had passed any signage or that any order had been made at the location. It has not been reported in what way she is supposed to have agreed to comply with any regulation that may or may not exist for some persons. and the her going that way to work every day? Does she work for the government? Does it say? She should be convicted of attempted insult of the intelligence (I'll exempt you from victimhood there - it seems that it didn't insult yours), let alone anything else. When government wish to wrap the people in legislation, they have to get their agreement. I do not work for the government and am not bound by their legislation on matters which I have not explicitly agreed to. Have you been talking to Phil Lee? He talks similar ****e, too. |
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On 2 June, 11:46, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
thirty-six wrote: On 2 June, 09:03, "Mrcheerful" wrote: thirty-six wrote: On 1 June, 16:10, "Partac" wrote: "JNugent" wrote in ... On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. For the avoidance of doubt, I've taken the liberty of posting the Google Earth street view of the road in question. I'll leave it up to the panel to decide whether she was genuinely mistaken, or if she was just lying through her teeth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96800572@N02/8912745605/ Excellent. The signage is not legally binding, even to a person driving a licensed vehicle. Any "notice" or "order" which may or may not exist in the scrolls of office can not awfully be enforced or penalty made. The signage does not comply with the prescribed format as recorded in the legislaughter. As I said, thick as ... Signage looks good to me, what do you think is wrong with it? No entry signs apply to all vehicular traffic, and a bicycle is a vehicle. I obviously have greater awareness of UK-law than your deluded understanding. If you wish to engage your mind, please do it for the good and not be so willing to voice your misunderstanding. * The signage does not comply with that prescribed under UK-law. * *It will be for the prosecution to find the legislation and present it to court. Examination of the legislation which was current at the time will show that signage not to be proper and any penalties unenforceable. * When this is said to the arresting officer, great damages can later be brought due to the injury made by false arrest, loss of liberty, blah de blah. So what is wrong with it? apart from everything? Is it because it is not mentioned in the magna carta? |
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On 2 June, 12:02, "Partac" wrote:
"thirty-six" *wrote in message ... On 1 June, 14:02, JNugent wrote: On 01/06/2013 02:14, thirty-six wrote: On May 31, 11:39 am, JNugent wrote: On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. fro m the article in question it seems that an officer for the crown collection agency A police officer, you mean? believed that the cyclist's thinking be wrong You have no reason for it to "seem" that way to you. Thinking is a personal matter. The cyclist was arrested for seeking to leave the scene of her observed breach of the law - that is, her illegal *action*, not her improper thought. What precisely have you ascertained was observed directly from reading the article and what have you imagined? and decided he could arrest despite there being no evidence that any signage (whether or not exists) was contravened with intent, or otherwise. * By all accounts presented, this appears to be an unlawful arrest causing personal injury and unnecessary detention. Really? Do you believe that she didn't know that the street was one-way, despite signage to say so (as there always is) It has not been reported that there was adequate signage. *It has not been reported that the woman had passed any signage or that any order had been made at the location. *It has not been reported in what way she is supposed to have agreed to comply with any regulation that may or may not exist for some persons. and the her going that way to work every day? Does she work for the government? * Does it say? She should be convicted of attempted insult of the intelligence (I'll exempt you from victimhood there - it seems that it didn't insult yours), let alone anything else. When government wish to wrap the people in legislation, they have to get their agreement. * I do not work for the government and am not bound by their legislation on matters which I have not explicitly agreed to. Have you been talking to Phil Lee? He talks similar ****e, too. English not your subject then? |
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"thirty-six" wrote in message ... On 2 June, 12:54, "Partac" wrote: "thirty-six" wrote in message ... On 2 June, 12:02, "Partac" wrote: "thirty-six" wrote in message ... On 1 June, 14:02, JNugent wrote: On 01/06/2013 02:14, thirty-six wrote: On May 31, 11:39 am, JNugent wrote: On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. fro m the article in question it seems that an officer for the crown collection agency A police officer, you mean? believed that the cyclist's thinking be wrong You have no reason for it to "seem" that way to you. Thinking is a personal matter. The cyclist was arrested for seeking to leave the scene of her observed breach of the law - that is, her illegal *action*, not her improper thought. What precisely have you ascertained was observed directly from reading the article and what have you imagined? and decided he could arrest despite there being no evidence that any signage (whether or not exists) was contravened with intent, or otherwise. By all accounts presented, this appears to be an unlawful arrest causing personal injury and unnecessary detention. Really? Do you believe that she didn't know that the street was one-way, despite signage to say so (as there always is) It has not been reported that there was adequate signage. It has not been reported that the woman had passed any signage or that any order had been made at the location. It has not been reported in what way she is supposed to have agreed to comply with any regulation that may or may not exist for some persons. and the her going that way to work every day? Does she work for the government? Does it say? She should be convicted of attempted insult of the intelligence (I'll exempt you from victimhood there - it seems that it didn't insult yours), let alone anything else. When government wish to wrap the people in legislation, they have to get their agreement. I do not work for the government and am not bound by their legislation on matters which I have not explicitly agreed to. Have you been talking to Phil Lee? He talks similar ****e, too. English not your subject then? No, certainly not your kind of English. There is no need to question my abilities, it is the news article you are (purposely?) having difficulty comprehending. No, no problem with the news article or most people's comments. Just problems with your prattle. I wasn't questioning your abilities, I have already made my mind up on that subject. |
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thirty-six wrote:
On 2 June, 11:46, "Mrcheerful" wrote: thirty-six wrote: On 2 June, 09:03, "Mrcheerful" wrote: thirty-six wrote: On 1 June, 16:10, "Partac" wrote: "JNugent" wrote in ... On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. For the avoidance of doubt, I've taken the liberty of posting the Google Earth street view of the road in question. I'll leave it up to the panel to decide whether she was genuinely mistaken, or if she was just lying through her teeth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96800572@N02/8912745605/ Excellent. The signage is not legally binding, even to a person driving a licensed vehicle. Any "notice" or "order" which may or may not exist in the scrolls of office can not awfully be enforced or penalty made. The signage does not comply with the prescribed format as recorded in the legislaughter. As I said, thick as ... Signage looks good to me, what do you think is wrong with it? No entry signs apply to all vehicular traffic, and a bicycle is a vehicle. I obviously have greater awareness of UK-law than your deluded understanding. If you wish to engage your mind, please do it for the good and not be so willing to voice your misunderstanding. The signage does not comply with that prescribed under UK-law. It will be for the prosecution to find the legislation and present it to court. Examination of the legislation which was current at the time will show that signage not to be proper and any penalties unenforceable. When this is said to the arresting officer, great damages can later be brought due to the injury made by false arrest, loss of liberty, blah de blah. So what is wrong with it? apart from everything? Boring. |
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On 2 June, 13:25, "Partac" wrote:
"thirty-six" *wrote in message ... On 2 June, 12:54, "Partac" wrote: "thirty-six" *wrote in message ... On 2 June, 12:02, "Partac" wrote: "thirty-six" *wrote in message .... On 1 June, 14:02, JNugent wrote: On 01/06/2013 02:14, thirty-six wrote: On May 31, 11:39 am, JNugent wrote: On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. fro m the article in question it seems that an officer for the crown collection agency A police officer, you mean? believed that the cyclist's thinking be wrong You have no reason for it to "seem" that way to you. Thinking is a personal matter. The cyclist was arrested for seeking to leave the scene of her observed breach of the law - that is, her illegal *action*, not her improper thought. What precisely have you ascertained was observed directly from reading the article and what have you imagined? and decided he could arrest despite there being no evidence that any signage (whether or not exists) was contravened with intent, or otherwise. * By all accounts presented, this appears to be an unlawful arrest causing personal injury and unnecessary detention. Really? Do you believe that she didn't know that the street was one-way, despite signage to say so (as there always is) It has not been reported that there was adequate signage. *It has not been reported that the woman had passed any signage or that any order had been made at the location. *It has not been reported in what way she is supposed to have agreed to comply with any regulation that may or may not exist for some persons. and the her going that way to work every day? Does she work for the government? * Does it say? She should be convicted of attempted insult of the intelligence (I'll exempt you from victimhood there - it seems that it didn't insult yours), let alone anything else. When government wish to wrap the people in legislation, they have to get their agreement. * I do not work for the government and am not bound by their legislation on matters which I have not explicitly agreed to. Have you been talking to Phil Lee? He talks similar ****e, too. English not your subject then? No, certainly not your kind of English. There is no need to question my abilities, it is the news article you are (purposely?) having difficulty comprehending. No, no problem with the news article or most people's comments. Just problems with your prattle. I wasn't questioning your abilities, I have already made my mind up on that subject. I'll take it slow for you. Avoid using prejudice in your answer. From the article, what have we been told that the officer did observe? Please quote extracts from the passage to support your answer. 3 |
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On 2 June, 12:24, Bruise Prestine wrote:
thirty-six wrote: On 2 June, 10:30, Bruise Prestine wrote: thirty-six wrote: [...] I would be happy to read about a "person" in my book of truth, please guide me to the relevant parts of the King James Bible. *Be aware that this is the book I shall hold at court. *This is not for theatrics, but to uphold the truth. When I first heard the Manic Street Preachers' line: "This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours", I remember thinking there was no sense in that (just some more nollocks, really)... but I know better now. In fact, this newsgroup is as good a demonstration as any of us need to show that we do indeed, as individuals, hold our own 'truths' - and that these 'truths' may, or may not, be the same as those held by other individuals around us. I sense that there may be some frustration by more than yourself. Acceptance is the thing, though. Once one can accept that we each have our own 'truths', then there is far less frustration. As long as we are personally happy with our own 'truths', then, so what? -- Alexis Their support of the delusion affects me and my kind. I want the destruction of mankind and this planet to stop. |
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On 2 June, 13:50, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
thirty-six wrote: On 2 June, 11:46, "Mrcheerful" wrote: thirty-six wrote: On 2 June, 09:03, "Mrcheerful" wrote: thirty-six wrote: On 1 June, 16:10, "Partac" wrote: "JNugent" wrote in ... On 31/05/2013 11:32, Partac wrote: http://www.windsorexpress.co.uk/News...ist-arrested-f... QUOTE: ...the woman told an employee at the estate agent she was in a rush to get a train to work when she cycled up the street and had not realised it was one-way. ENDQUOTE What, it's on her way to the station where she catches the train to work every day and she "had not realised it was one-way"? Yeah, right. For the avoidance of doubt, I've taken the liberty of posting the Google Earth street view of the road in question. I'll leave it up to the panel to decide whether she was genuinely mistaken, or if she was just lying through her teeth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96800572@N02/8912745605/ Excellent. The signage is not legally binding, even to a person driving a licensed vehicle. Any "notice" or "order" which may or may not exist in the scrolls of office can not awfully be enforced or penalty made. The signage does not comply with the prescribed format as recorded in the legislaughter. As I said, thick as ... Signage looks good to me, what do you think is wrong with it? No entry signs apply to all vehicular traffic, and a bicycle is a vehicle. I obviously have greater awareness of UK-law than your deluded understanding. If you wish to engage your mind, please do it for the good and not be so willing to voice your misunderstanding. The signage does not comply with that prescribed under UK-law. It will be for the prosecution to find the legislation and present it to court. Examination of the legislation which was current at the time will show that signage not to be proper and any penalties unenforceable. When this is said to the arresting officer, great damages can later be brought due to the injury made by false arrest, loss of liberty, blah de blah. So what is wrong with it? apart from everything? Boring. so go tickle your love pump with a paring knife. |
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