Kryptonite Evolution vs New York 3000 Locks

I have a bike worth about 750 bucks. I dont ever leave it for long, but
occasionally want to run into a hardware store, or a supermarket for
about 15 minutes, and I need a good lock.

Is the New York 3000 U Lock just OVERKILL? It is 3.7lbs, while the
Krypto-Evolution is just over 2lbs. Is the Evolution really that weak?
I am going to use a cable for the wheels regardless of the U lock I
choose.

I live in Seattle, and I am never leaving the bike outside at night...
What do ya think I should get?

"abrown360" wrote in message
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I have a bike worth about 750 bucks. I dont ever leave it for long, but
occasionally want to run into a hardware store, or a supermarket for
about 15 minutes, and I need a good lock.

Is the New York 3000 U Lock just OVERKILL? It is 3.7lbs, while the
Krypto-Evolution is just over 2lbs. Is the Evolution really that weak?
I am going to use a cable for the wheels regardless of the U lock I
choose.

I live in Seattle, and I am never leaving the bike outside at night...
What do ya think I should get?


Heh heh, I'd recommend a 2nd bike! Get yerself a garage sale beater that you
won't be afraid to lock up.

If you do end up in a shop with your good bike and no lock, just bring the
bike in. If you're nice about it, most people, in small stores anyway, will
let you do so.

cheers,
paul

"abrown360" wrote in message

I have a bike worth about 750 bucks. I dont ever leave it for long, but
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What do ya think I should get?



I realize that may not be all that constructive considering you have a bike
already you want to protect but someone else suggested buying a beater that
you won't worry about so I figured I'd jump in.

When I went to my LBS a couple months ago, I saw the Kryptonite New York
U-lock.

$150. Let's assume it's "the perfect lock." $150!?

I bought a folding bike and don't have a lock of any kind for it - it goes
where I go, never leaving my sight. (it's watching me type this

I figure by the time you're done, it'd cheaper just to get a folder (Dahon
Impulse... $175 to $300 depending on model) that will NOT get stolen and
keep your rocket ship bike for evening and weekend rides where it won't have
to be locked up.

Just my 2cents. Let us know what you decide to do - and if you lock it up,
when it gets stolen. (ducking)

Chris

Christ almighty. I HAVE A SECOND BIKE, I HAVE A THIRD BIKE.

My question was relating to my NEW BIKE. What lock for my NEW BIKE, not
the old clunkers I have. Please do not waste my time.

Paul R wrote:

Heh heh, I'd recommend a 2nd bike! Get yerself a garage sale beater that you
won't be afraid to lock up.

If you do end up in a shop with your good bike and no lock, just bring the
bike in. If you're nice about it, most people, in small stores anyway, will
let you do so.

cheers,
paul

New York Lock 3000 is 55 bucks all over the internet. Evolution is
abotu 20 bucks cheaper. Is the NYLock really that much better
considering the extra weight?

***Again, I am looking for information on the various types of
Kryptonite locks and their relative benefits. NOT LOOKING FOR
recommendations about buying another bike. Ok?***

I HAVE A SECOND, THIRD, AND FOURTH BIKE. This thread is a question
about Kryptonite locks and their benefits vs each other. I dont need
advice on losing my bike, or how it is a bad idea to lock it up. I know
you may think it is dumb to lock up a nice bike, but christ almighty,
sometimes it is necessary, and I want info about locks, not other stuff.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:16:27 -0700, abrown360 wrote:

New York Lock 3000 is 55 bucks all over the internet. Evolution is abotu
20 bucks cheaper. Is the NYLock really that much better considering the
extra weight?

In Seattle I'd get the Evolution, but better yet, call a bike courier
company in your area and see what they recommend.

I used to leave my $800 city bike locked up overnight in Chicago--in some
pretty shady neighborhoods, and it was never touched (caressed maybe) but
that's because I stealthified it. Electrical tape, general dirt, and a
bag on the seat. Cheap 30 dollar Krypto. No prob.

Thing is, on a fancy bike, a dedicated thief with an allen key might go
for your brakes, seat or other parts, so no matter how good the lock...

Camo is the best solution, imho


***Again, I am looking for information on the various types of
Kryptonite locks and their relative benefits. NOT LOOKING FOR
recommendations about buying another bike. Ok?***

Relax, it's usenet and out of your control, hang on for the ride. What you
can't use or parse, ignore.

You should think of designating one of your bikes as a "shopping bike",
and giving it the "urban decay" treatment.

abrown360 wrote in message
. com...
I HAVE A SECOND, THIRD, AND FOURTH BIKE. This thread is a question
about Kryptonite locks and their benefits vs each other. I dont need
advice on losing my bike, or how it is a bad idea to lock it up. I know
you may think it is dumb to lock up a nice bike, but christ almighty,
sometimes it is necessary, and I want info about locks, not other stuff.

Calm down, take a deep breath, and relax.

You have no control over threads in Usenet, even if you started them. You
might want specific information, but since you aren't paying for it, you
should remember that people are being nice by replying to your query, and
they have no obligation to respond exactly as you'd like.

If it's really a problem for you, I suggest going for a ride next time the
steam starts to blow out of your ears, rather than chastising others.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
See the books I've set free at:
http://bookcrossing.com/referr*al/Cpetersky

"abrown360" wrote in
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Christ almighty. I HAVE A SECOND BIKE, I HAVE A THIRD BIKE.

My question was relating to my NEW BIKE. What lock for my NEW
BIKE, not the old clunkers I have. Please do not waste my time.

Paul R wrote:

Heh heh, I'd recommend a 2nd bike! Get yerself a garage sale
beater that you won't be afraid to lock up.

If you do end up in a shop with your good bike and no lock, just
bring the bike in. If you're nice about it, most people, in small
stores anyway, will let you do so.

cheers,
paul


Don't ever take your good bike out where you have to lock it
up...never, never, Fabs would support me on this.

"C.J.Patten" wrote in
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"abrown360" wrote in message

I have a bike worth about 750 bucks. I dont ever leave it for
long, but
snip
What do ya think I should get?



I realize that may not be all that constructive considering you
have a bike already you want to protect but someone else suggested
buying a beater that you won't worry about so I figured I'd jump
in.

When I went to my LBS a couple months ago, I saw the Kryptonite
New York U-lock.

$150. Let's assume it's "the perfect lock." $150!?

One of my hobbies is lockpicking (it started in Europe by the way where
they have national championships). I can pick a 5 pin tumbler lock in
between 30 sec and 2 minutes mostly toward the 30 sec range. Key U-
locks I do in 5 sec and tubular locks the Kryptonite kind sometimes
tale longer, but till now not much, however I have not yet seen the K
replacement locks but there is no such thing as a perfect lock...will
get back to you.