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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:15:33 -0500, Stephen Harding wrote: Yeah, yeah, you wore me down, the US has never supplied arms or expertise to any rogue nation, has never attempted to destabilise any [... snip litany of evil US transgressions against humanity] Of course it has. As has your own country, in spades. Just get the facts straight as to when, where, how and context. SMH |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 09:26:00 -0500, Stephen Harding
wrote: [... snip litany of evil US transgressions against humanity] Of course it has. As has your own country, in spades. Did I ever attempt to deny it? We invented concentration camps, for example. And we invaded another country recently without the benefit of declaration of war, without UN support, against the advice of the weapons inspection teams on the ground, and in clear contravention of international law. That's a ****ty trick and I hope it doesn't catch on with people who want some natural resource we have some time. Luckily at least in the UK one is not denounced as a traitor for failing to be enthusiastic about the whole sorry mess. Guy === May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk |
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Kevan Smith wrote:
On 19 Jan 2004 07:36:51 GMT, (Hunrobe) from AOL http://www.aol.com wrote: That's nonsense and you know it, Guy. No one here in the US has been "denounced as a traitor" for simply disagreeing on the necessity for or wisdom of our incursion into Iraq ... I have. Well certainly *you* have! Everyone knows you work for Chinese intelligence Kev. SecretCam suspect Super secret agent Kev /suspect location Back room of Chinatown medicine shop /location time 2:14 am /time appearance Considerably faked Chinese appearance similar to 30's Charlie Chan movie character /appearance action Exchange of huge amounts of cash from known Chinese spy master to suspect /action transcript Suspect: "Bwah ha ha ha! The Flying Pigeon shall soon dominate the world! Bwah ha ha!" /transcript /SecretCam I'm not currently at liberty to divulge my sources for this information. SMH |
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Hunrobe wrote:
No one here in the US has been "denounced as a traitor" for simply disagreeing on the necessity for or wisdom of our incursion into Iraq, at least not by anyone that is at all representative of the overwhelming majority of US citizens. You need to get out mo "If you do not support our President's decisions you are a traitor." http://www.probush.com/traitor.htm "I am prepared * just this once * to name a traitor: Pinch Sulzberger, publisher of the New York Times." http://www.townhall.com/columnists/a...20030918.shtml Let's not even get started on Talk Radio. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/ |
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Terry Morse
wrote: Hunrobe wrote: No one here in the US has been "denounced as a traitor" for simply disagreeing on the necessity for or wisdom of our incursion into Iraq, at least not by anyone that is at all representative of the overwhelming majority of US citizens. You need to get out mo "If you do not support our President's decisions you are a traitor." http://www.probush.com/traitor.htm "I am prepared * just this once * to name a traitor: Pinch Sulzberger, publisher of the New York Times." http://www.townhall.com/columnists/a...20030918.shtml Let's not even get started on Talk Radio. -- A website page entitled "Traitors List", an ultraconservative columnist bashing a NY Times editor, and the assorted loonies on both the left and right that populate talk radio-- do you truly believe that these speak for the overwhelming majority of the country? If so, I'd suggest maybe you should take some of your own advice and get out a little more. If this really is a majority opinion then where are all the arrests and jailings of dissidents, the burnings in effigy, the public lynchings? There aren't any because while the overwhelming majority of US citizens may not *like* the dissent and by extension the dissenters they don't condemn them as traitors. Which of course was exactly my point. Regards, Bob Hunt |
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"Hunrobe" wrote in message
... "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in part: Luckily at least in the UK one is not denounced as a traitor for failing to be enthusiastic about the whole sorry mess. That's nonsense and you know it, Guy. No one here in the US has been "denounced as a traitor" for simply disagreeing on the necessity for or wisdom of our incursion into Iraq, at least not by anyone that is at all representative of the overwhelming majority of US citizens. And this is a significant point. Who is it that demands that EVERYONE without exception likes what they hear from leftist morons or the entire country is somehow guilty of not having the same respect for the Consitution as the lefties pretend to do (while redefining marriage to suit their own version of 'English'). As a matter of fact, the *only* use of the word "traitor" I've heard in this context has been by those that oppose the war in Iraq. I've heard it used in two ways by them. The first has been in attempts to stake out the high moral ground, "Anyone that supports the war is a traitor to true American ideals". The second use has been by way of staking out a claim to persecuted status, "Some will call me a traitor for this but...." when in fact, no one *has*. That second use is not too different from me saying, "Some will call me godlike for this but...". *Could* someone say that? I guess it's possible but it's highly unlikely. Not unless they knew me personally anyway. g Talk IS cheap. |
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"Kevan Smith" wrote in message
... On 19 Jan 2004 07:36:51 GMT, (Hunrobe) from AOL http://www.aol.com wrote: That's nonsense and you know it, Guy. No one here in the US has been "denounced as a traitor" for simply disagreeing on the necessity for or wisdom of our incursion into Iraq ... I have. Probably because you are.... |
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Hunrobe wrote:
A website page entitled "Traitors List", an ultraconservative columnist bashing a NY Times editor, and the assorted loonies on both the left and right that populate talk radio-- do you truly believe that these speak for the overwhelming majority of the country? Any way, the "speak for the overwhelming majority" qualifier is just weasel words, easy to hide behind and almost impossible to refute. The radio waves are filled with traitor accusations, Fox "News" is the number one cable news station. More than a handful of loonies are tuning in those programs, making the media execs very happy, and chilling the public dialog. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/ |
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