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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
My troubles started after I got a bleed kit so that I could cut down the
far too long hoses. My rear brake hose has been holding up fine. The front, however, has been a pain: On my 1st ride on this bike after I shortened the hoses I fell over. It was a 5 mph crash that beat the **** out of me (I've never had so many cuts and bruises, even from much higher speed crashes) and possibly cracked the compression nut on the front brake lever. After truing the front wheel (it had gotten stuck between a boulder and concrete slab as I fell over) I was squeezing the front brake lever when the lever pulled all the way to the bar and brake fluid squirted out along the hose. After pulling it apart, reassembling, and bleeding the brake, it still leaked. Upon pulling it apart this time I noticed that the compression nut was cracked on the threaded end. So I called Avid and they told me the compression nuts are brittle and they would send me one. Thankfully, or so I thought at the time, they sent two. My second attempt to attach the front hose to the lever was done extremely carefully given that I knew the compression nuts were problematic. I'm tightening the compression nut down and long before it's tight I hear a tiny crack. Damn, there goes another one, I pull it out and sure enough the threaded end is cracked. So I think to myself "I'm glad they sent me two". So I attempt the 2nd one. Keep in mind that each time I've done this I've cut the hose to install a new hose barb and compressor so the hose is starting to get a bit short. So I install the 2nd one being even more careful and I think I have it tight enough so I bleed the brakes. Upon testing them I obviously haven't gotten them tight enough since they leak. I tighten the compression nut a little. Still leak. I tighten it a little more. Still leak. I barely move the compression nut and, CRACK, the hex end breaks. But, it no longer leaks. Much. And I have a seriously cracked compression nut. Anyway, I was dying to ride this bike so I took it out for a little road ride so I wouldn't have to use the front brake much. Kind of a waste for a Turner 5 Spot. So earlier tonight after gathering another hose barb, compressor, compression nut, and my newly acquired 8mm flare nut wrench (a find in itself) I attempt to remove the cracked compression nut. Yeah, right. It just crumbled in the wrench. Now I'm sitting here with a mess. Tomorrow we'll see how Avid handles this. Anybody else here experienced these problems? I know the ratio here leans toward the road so I'm not expecting much input, just wanted to rant. Greg |
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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
"Evan Evans" wrote in message om... Just replace that junk with v-brakes. Disk brakes on a bicycle are one of the biggest jokes ever put on by the industry. It's just crazy how people get hooked into such things. Right...v-brakes don't fade on a 35lb + freeride going down hill. v-brakes are great on xc, but disks are needed on extreme conditions. hype or no hype. |
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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
If you still having trouble .swap out the brakes for there cable disk
brakes.These rate as one of the best.Sound like they need to get this nut problem fixed.That is one reason if I went to disk brakes I would use the cable type. lose the fluid on your lose the ride.I would talk to avid and see what they would do . Good luck -- J/O TrailBlazer at Large |
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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
evan- Just replace that junk with v-brakes. Disk brakes on a bicycle are one
of the biggest jokes ever put on by the industry. It's just crazy how people get hooked into such things. BRBR Or at least Avid mechanicals..nice brakes. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 12:52:48 GMT, "Xtc" wrote:
"Evan Evans" wrote in message . com... Just replace that junk with v-brakes. Disk brakes on a bicycle are one of the biggest jokes ever put on by the industry. It's just crazy how people get hooked into such things. Right...v-brakes don't fade on a 35lb + freeride going down hill. v-brakes are great on xc, but disks are needed on extreme conditions. hype or no hype. Isn't fade due to heat buildup? Don't rims have much more area to them? |
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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
Anybody else here experienced these problems? I know the ratio here leans
toward the road so I'm not expecting much input, just wanted to rant. The members rec.bike.tech don't appreciate the buttery smoothness and power of hydros. They tend to better appreciate the hardiness of well-made, bullet-proof products at a cheap price. Hence all the mech recommendations. I would suggest the LBS for this one. They can eat the **** this next time around and get Avid working on a REAL solution that REAL people can easily solve. Avid will likely pass you off as a ham-fisted mechanic (which you obviously are not), but if shops begin complaining... -- Phil, Squid-in-Training |
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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
Jonesy wrote:
"G.T." wrote in message om... My troubles started after I got a bleed kit so that I could cut down the far too long hoses. My rear brake hose has been holding up fine. The front, however, has been a pain: [snip tale of woe] I love my Avid mechs, but hydro brakes are better. Now, I understand that the best hydro lines in the business are made by Goodridge. Chain Reaction Cycles sells them (in the U.K.) and Mike visits here often. Now, I do not know if there is a kit suitable for Avid Juicy brakes, but I'm guessing there will be shortly. Yeah, but not quite yet. Here's my recommendation: Put away the Juicys for a while, until Goodridge comes out with a kit, or Avid congeals their feces. Go with some Hayes hydros, then sell them on eBay after you're done using them, and recoup most of your investment. Simple! Well, I'm doing something like that. I have a rim-brake compatabile rim and brake posts on my fork. So I've got the luverly combo of front v-brake and rear hydraulic disk until I get this sorted out. Greg |
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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
(Evan Evans) wrote:
I formally invite you to a good nine mile ride on the singletrack here in the S. Carolina Piedmont. I GUARANTEE you'll change your tune! You are saying that a person needs disk brakes to ride on your singletrack? You've forgotten the rule of brake (and most other bicycle component) evolution: "When something new comes out, it is important for everyone to suddenly realize that what they used to ride didn't work". Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
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Anybody here having problems with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes?
"Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (Evan Evans) wrote: I formally invite you to a good nine mile ride on the singletrack here in the S. Carolina Piedmont. I GUARANTEE you'll change your tune! You are saying that a person needs disk brakes to ride on your singletrack? You've forgotten the rule of brake (and most other bicycle component) evolution: "When something new comes out, it is important for everyone to suddenly realize that what they used to ride didn't work". Yep, same goes with suspension. Greg |
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