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Old July 10th 10, 07:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Mike Jacoubowsky
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Making the final cut (GC contenders and their domestiques)-

4 RS guys (Levi, Jani, Horner, Armstrong)
3 Rabobank (Menchov, Gesink & Cepa, who was in the lead break)
3 Astana (Contador, Vino & Garcia).
2 Saxo (Schleck & Sorensen)
2 BMC (Evans & Morabito
2 Liquigas (Basso & Kreuziger)

Interesting because watching the stage, RS was pretty invisible, yet they
had the most horsepower. Vino was working hard, but did Astana get rid of
anyone that really mattered?

Great day for Sylvain Chavanel. Looks like his move to Quick Step was the
right thing to do.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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Old July 11th 10, 12:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Keith
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Default The final selection, and their domestiques-

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:36:17 -0700, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

Making the final cut (GC contenders and their domestiques)-

4 RS guys (Levi, Jani, Horner, Armstrong)
3 Rabobank (Menchov, Gesink & Cepa, who was in the lead break)
3 Astana (Contador, Vino & Garcia).
2 Saxo (Schleck & Sorensen)
2 BMC (Evans & Morabito
2 Liquigas (Basso & Kreuziger)

Interesting because watching the stage, RS was pretty invisible, yet they
had the most horsepower.


They did pull at one point

Vino was working hard, but did Astana get rid of
anyone that really mattered?

Great day for Sylvain Chavanel. Looks like his move to Quick Step was the
right thing to do.


More like breaking his neck and then staying off the bike for 1.5
months, he was already with QS last year.
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Old July 11th 10, 12:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
DA74
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Default The final selection, and their domestiques-

On Jul 10, 11:36*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
Making the final cut (GC contenders and their domestiques)-

4 RS guys (Levi, Jani, Horner, Armstrong)
3 Rabobank (Menchov, Gesink & Cepa, who was in the lead break)
3 Astana (Contador, Vino & Garcia).
2 Saxo (Schleck & Sorensen)
2 BMC (Evans & Morabito
2 Liquigas (Basso & Kreuziger)

Interesting because watching the stage, RS was pretty invisible, yet they
had the most horsepower. Vino was working hard, but did Astana get rid of
anyone that really mattered?

Great day for Sylvain Chavanel. Looks like his move to Quick Step was the
right thing to do.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


Astana showed that they came to fight, Saxo showed that they have been
weakened by the loss of Frank and if you were paying attention you saw
major weakness in the Shack.

Everyone on RS but Lance was invisible because they all got shelled
and were hanging on for dear life when Astana turned the screws.
Kloden was OTB pretty early and LL, LB and CH were at the back of the
move which made them utterly useless to Lance when it mattered. Who
cares if they all managed to hang on - There was not a single thing
they could have done to help Lance when it got hard. I bet Lance was
****ed after the race - and deservedly so.
-DA74
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Old July 11th 10, 04:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Brad Anders
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Default The final selection, and their domestiques-

On Jul 10, 4:16*pm, Keith wrote:

They did pull at one point


Be careful. Someone might interpret that as a positive comment from
you on Radioshack.

Brad Anders
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Old July 11th 10, 06:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Mike Jacoubowsky
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Default The final selection, and their domestiques-

"DA74" wrote in message
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On Jul 10, 11:36 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
Making the final cut (GC contenders and their domestiques)-

4 RS guys (Levi, Jani, Horner, Armstrong)
3 Rabobank (Menchov, Gesink & Cepa, who was in the lead break)
3 Astana (Contador, Vino & Garcia).
2 Saxo (Schleck & Sorensen)
2 BMC (Evans & Morabito
2 Liquigas (Basso & Kreuziger)

Interesting because watching the stage, RS was pretty invisible, yet they
had the most horsepower. Vino was working hard, but did Astana get rid of
anyone that really mattered?

Great day for Sylvain Chavanel. Looks like his move to Quick Step was the
right thing to do.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


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Astana showed that they came to fight, Saxo showed that they have been
weakened by the loss of Frank and if you were paying attention you saw
major weakness in the Shack.

Everyone on RS but Lance was invisible because they all got shelled
and were hanging on for dear life when Astana turned the screws.
Kloden was OTB pretty early and LL, LB and CH were at the back of the
move which made them utterly useless to Lance when it mattered. Who
cares if they all managed to hang on - There was not a single thing
they could have done to help Lance when it got hard. I bet Lance was
****ed after the race - and deservedly so.
-DA74
=====

If you really want to disagree with me, shouldn't you pick something we
disagree on? Yes, I was paying attention, and that was exactly my point.
They were "invisible" (weak). The guys were there but just barely. As you
said. As I said.

Does it matter that the invisible/weak RS players managed to hang on while
Fabian and others got blown away entirely? Don't know. Could have even been
a bad move on their part, using up too much for no good reason, with the
toughest day yet tomorrow. Will be interesting to read what Horner has to
say.

Still, we've now got a list of who's likely/been asked/expected to hang with
the leader when the going gets tough. And you're right, Saxo has been dealt
quite a blow, and it might take a bit for Voight to recover enough to help
out in the mountains. They certainly don't have the means to ride tempo at
the moment. Astana can send Vino to the front, Rabobink can play Gesink
(although Gesink is only four minutes down, and a good plan-B if something
happens to Menchov), and RS can sacrifice Horner for early-tempo duties but
would probably like to save Jani for later in the day.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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Old July 11th 10, 11:11 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Betty[_2_]
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Default The final selection, and their domestiques-

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Great day for Sylvain Chavanel. Looks like his move to Quick Step was the
right thing to do.


Keith wrote:
More like breaking his neck and then staying off the bike for 1.5
months, he was already with QS last year.


Perhaps they removed a testicle by accident. Anyway i would have thought
you would have ascribed his rise under a Belgian team to Belgian wasps.

QS must be happy though, they're getting better coverage without Boonen
than they probably would have had if Boonen was there. Makes one wonder
how the other HTC riders would do if they didn't have to ride for
Cavendish - perhaps that's why Hagen went to Sky.
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Old July 11th 10, 11:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Betty[_2_]
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
2 BMC (Evans & Morabito


I suspect CFE is going to find Hincapie to be a particularly useful even
if he doesn't always make the final selection.

Also Garmin (Hesjedal and Van Summeren)
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Old July 11th 10, 09:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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Default The final selection, and their domestiques-

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DA74 wrote:

On Jul 10, 11:36Â*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
Making the final cut (GC contenders and their domestiques)-

4 RS guys (Levi, Jani, Horner, Armstrong)
3 Rabobank (Menchov, Gesink & Cepa, who was in the lead break)
3 Astana (Contador, Vino & Garcia).
2 Saxo (Schleck & Sorensen)
2 BMC (Evans & Morabito
2 Liquigas (Basso & Kreuziger)

Interesting because watching the stage, RS was pretty invisible, yet they
had the most horsepower. Vino was working hard, but did Astana get rid of
anyone that really mattered?

Great day for Sylvain Chavanel. Looks like his move to Quick Step was the
right thing to do.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


Astana showed that they came to fight, Saxo showed that they have been
weakened by the loss of Frank and if you were paying attention you saw
major weakness in the Shack.

Everyone on RS but Lance was invisible because they all got shelled
and were hanging on for dear life when Astana turned the screws.
Kloden was OTB pretty early and LL, LB and CH were at the back of the
move which made them utterly useless to Lance when it mattered. Who
cares if they all managed to hang on - There was not a single thing
they could have done to help Lance when it got hard. I bet Lance was
****ed after the race - and deservedly so.


Why should he be ****ed? He built the team.

--
Michael Press
 




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