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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
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"A mother was found guilty of attempted grievous bodily harm today after a jury ruled she did deliberately try to run her Turbo charged 4x4 into a cyclist she had argued with. A jury took just two hours and one minute to decide Natalie Pyne, 31, had aimed her white Audi Q7 at autistic Simon Edgley in a road rage attack in Kingston in June last year while she had at least four children in the car. His bicycle was left mangled after the attack but he escaped with minor injuries. Kingston Crown Court heard how Pyne claimed her 4x4 malfunctioned before she clipped Mr Edgley and went through the bay window of the Park Salon in Park Road causing more than £25,000 worth of damage. But traffic officer PC Peter Traylor told the jury he could find "no fault" with Pyne's "very powerful" car. She will be sentenced on November 6 at Kingston Crown Court." |
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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
On Friday, 9 October 2015 22:59:51 UTC+1, Alycidon wrote:
QUOTE: "A mother was found guilty of attempted grievous bodily harm today after a jury ruled she did deliberately try to run her Turbo charged 4x4 into a cyclist she had argued with. A jury took just two hours and one minute to decide Natalie Pyne, 31, had aimed her white Audi Q7 at autistic Simon Edgley in a road rage attack in Kingston in June last year while she had at least four children in the car.. His bicycle was left mangled after the attack but he escaped with minor injuries. Kingston Crown Court heard how Pyne claimed her 4x4 malfunctioned before she clipped Mr Edgley and went through the bay window of the Park Salon in Park Road causing more than £25,000 worth of damage. But traffic officer PC Peter Traylor told the jury he could find "no fault" with Pyne's "very powerful" car. She will be sentenced on November 6 at Kingston Crown Court." http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/n...road_rage_row/ |
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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
On 09/10/2015 22:59, Alycidon wrote:
QUOTE: "A mother was found guilty of attempted grievous bodily harm today after a jury ruled she did deliberately try to run her Turbo charged 4x4 into a cyclist she had argued with. A jury took just two hours and one minute to decide Natalie Pyne, 31, had aimed her white Audi Q7 at autistic Simon Edgley in a road rage attack in Kingston in June last year while she had at least four children in the car. His bicycle was left mangled after the attack but he escaped with minor injuries. Kingston Crown Court heard how Pyne claimed her 4x4 malfunctioned before she clipped Mr Edgley and went through the bay window of the Park Salon in Park Road causing more than £25,000 worth of damage. But traffic officer PC Peter Traylor told the jury he could find "no fault" with Pyne's "very powerful" car. She will be sentenced on November 6 at Kingston Crown Court." Does the law have such a concept as "attempted grievous bodily harm"? |
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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
On 10/10/2015 03:31, Phil W Lee wrote:
Alycidon considered Fri, 9 Oct 2015 14:59:49 -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write: QUOTE: "A mother was found guilty of attempted grievous bodily harm today after a jury ruled she did deliberately try to run her Turbo charged 4x4 into a cyclist she had argued with. A jury took just two hours and one minute to decide Natalie Pyne, 31, had aimed her white Audi Q7 at autistic Simon Edgley in a road rage attack in Kingston in June last year while she had at least four children in the car. His bicycle was left mangled after the attack but he escaped with minor injuries. Kingston Crown Court heard how Pyne claimed her 4x4 malfunctioned before she clipped Mr Edgley and went through the bay window of the Park Salon in Park Road causing more than £25,000 worth of damage. But traffic officer PC Peter Traylor told the jury he could find "no fault" with Pyne's "very powerful" car. She will be sentenced on November 6 at Kingston Crown Court." It seems iniquitous that a driver who does the same to a police officer, but successfully, is charged with murder. Why was she not charged with attempting the same offence? Anybody who is not cognisant of the fact that a motor vehicle presents a threat to the life of an unprotected human being in it's path surely wouldn't have ever managed to obtain a licence to drive one - therefore she demonstrably had (or should have had) that knowledge. Deliberately aiming a motor vehicle at a vulnerable road use is attempted murder. No excuses. For once (and subject to the precise evidence, notoriously deficient in press reports), I'm inclined to agree with you, M'Lud. |
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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
Phil W Lee wrote:
Alycidon considered Fri, 9 Oct 2015 14:59:49 -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write: QUOTE: "A mother was found guilty of attempted grievous bodily harm today after a jury ruled she did deliberately try to run her Turbo charged 4x4 into a cyclist she had argued with. A jury took just two hours and one minute to decide Natalie Pyne, 31, had aimed her white Audi Q7 at autistic Simon Edgley in a road rage attack in Kingston in June last year while she had at least four children in the car. His bicycle was left mangled after the attack but he escaped with minor injuries. Kingston Crown Court heard how Pyne claimed her 4x4 malfunctioned before she clipped Mr Edgley and went through the bay window of the Park Salon in Park Road causing more than £25,000 worth of damage. But traffic officer PC Peter Traylor told the jury he could find "no fault" with Pyne's "very powerful" car. She will be sentenced on November 6 at Kingston Crown Court." It seems iniquitous that a driver who does the same to a police officer, but successfully, is charged with murder. Why was she not charged with attempting the same offence? Because for a charge of murder to 'stick', all that needs to be demonstrated by the prosecution is the _mens rea_ of intention to commit grievous bodily harm. For a charge of attempted murder to be successful, intention to murder has to be demonstrated. Otherwise, it's just 'intention to commit GBH'. Y. -- Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein 'Unsuccessful candidates for the Presidency should be quietly hanged as a matter of public sanitation and decorum' (H.L. Mencken) |
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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
On Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:08:03 UTC+1, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:
Why was she not charged with attempting the same offence? Because for a charge of murder to 'stick', all that needs to be demonstrated by the prosecution is the _mens rea_ of intention to commit grievous bodily harm. For a charge of attempted murder to be successful, intention to murder has to be demonstrated. Otherwise, it's just 'intention to commit GBH'. QUOTE: Jon Fray of the Kingston Cycling Campaign commented: "I am not experienced in law but I suppose the police picked the charge of attempted GBH because they thought that is the one that would stick. I have some sympathy for people who think it should have been a harsher [charge.]" http://road.cc/content/news/167662-4...hed-hair-salon |
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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:59:49 -0700, Alycidon wrote:
QUOTE: "A mother was found guilty of attempted grievous bodily harm today after a jury ruled she did deliberately try to run her Turbo charged 4x4 into a cyclist she had argued with. A jury took just two hours and one minute to decide Natalie Pyne, 31, had aimed her white Audi Q7 at autistic Simon Edgley in a road rage attack in Kingston in June last year while she had at least four children in the car. One has to wonder what the piece of road lice did to upset her so much. His bicycle was left mangled after the attack but he escaped with minor injuries. So, no real damage then. Except to the toy of course. Kingston Crown Court heard how Pyne claimed her 4x4 malfunctioned before she clipped Mr Edgley and went through the bay window of the Park Salon in Park Road causing more than £25,000 worth of damage. This looks like evidence that her car did go wrong. Nobody deliberately aims their car at a building. But traffic officer PC Peter Traylor told the jury he could find "no fault" with Pyne's "very powerful" car. What does the power have to do with anything? Looks like victim-blaming to me. She will be sentenced on November 6 at Kingston Crown Court." She should appeal. |
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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
Forgery.
But I'm flattered. "Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message ... On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:59:49 -0700, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "A mother was found guilty of attempted grievous bodily harm today after a jury ruled she did deliberately try to run her Turbo charged 4x4 into a cyclist she had argued with. A jury took just two hours and one minute to decide Natalie Pyne, 31, had aimed her white Audi Q7 at autistic Simon Edgley in a road rage attack in Kingston in June last year while she had at least four children in the car. One has to wonder what the piece of road lice did to upset her so much. His bicycle was left mangled after the attack but he escaped with minor injuries. So, no real damage then. Except to the toy of course. Kingston Crown Court heard how Pyne claimed her 4x4 malfunctioned before she clipped Mr Edgley and went through the bay window of the Park Salon in Park Road causing more than £25,000 worth of damage. This looks like evidence that her car did go wrong. Nobody deliberately aims their car at a building. But traffic officer PC Peter Traylor told the jury he could find "no fault" with Pyne's "very powerful" car. What does the power have to do with anything? Looks like victim-blaming to me. She will be sentenced on November 6 at Kingston Crown Court." She should appeal. |
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Guilty: Jury decide mum DID try to mow down autistic cyclist
Thanks for such understanding, calling me Road Lice.
And there was real damage done, other than to my "toy". I've been left with a PTSD I still cannot get help with, and which effects every moment of my life. Please be aware that what you say can really hurt people, even if it is your view. |
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