He should have worn a helmet

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/ed...?id=2001372005

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OAP struck by reversing car


AN 85-YEAR-OLD man has been seriously injured after being hit by a
black Mercedes.

The car was reversing slowly in Craig Street, Blackridge, West
Lothian, on Friday at about 4.50pm when the incident occurred.

The pensioner was taken to St John's Hospital in Livingston with
serious head injuries. He remains in hospital, where he is in a
critical condition.

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I wonder when B**** will start campaigning for helmets to be worn by
pedestrians. Think of the children/pensioners, if just one life is
saved it would be worth it, it's obvious:-)


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David Hansen wrote:

Scotsman story snipped.


I wonder when B**** will start campaigning for helmets to be worn by
pedestrians. Think of the children/pensioners, if just one life is
saved it would be worth it, it's obvious:-)


Nobody else has replied to this post so I'll say it. Your point is
correct David but there is a time and place for it. I hope none of that
guys relatives read this group.
Iain

I submit that on or about Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:57:15 +0100, the person
known to the court as David Hansen
made a statement in Your
Honour's bundle) to the following effect:

I wonder when B**** will start campaigning for helmets to be worn by
pedestrians. Think of the children/pensioners, if just one life is
saved it would be worth it, it's obvious:-)

Funny you should say that. Today's Metro had a picture of some totty
advertising undies in London, in the background was a pedestrian
clearly wearing a walking helmet!

Guy
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in message .com,
') wrote:

David Hansen wrote:

Scotsman story snipped.

I wonder when B**** will start campaigning for helmets to be worn by
pedestrians. Think of the children/pensioners, if just one life is
saved it would be worth it, it's obvious:-)

Nobody else has replied to this post so I'll say it. Your point is
correct David but there is a time and place for it. I hope none of that
guys relatives read this group.

Don't be silly, Ian. This week there was, posted on Singletrack, the
story of a 71 year old man who died after his bike slipped and fell on a
cattle grid. He wasn't wearing a helmet, and given the nature of his
accident it's quite likely that a helmet might have saved his life. That
doesn't mean 'he should have worn a helmet', for two reasons:

(i) dying suddenly from a blow to the head while enjoying oneself,
especially after three score years and ten, is not a tragedy; and

(ii) the the difference in probability, for a road cyclist, between an
accident in which a helmet would mitigate injury and an accident in
which a helmet would aggravate injury is marginal at best.

In other words, if the guy who fell off on the cattle grid had worn his
helmet that morning, he'd probably have been hit by a white van man.

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Simon Brooke wrote:

(i) dying suddenly from a blow to the head while enjoying oneself,
especially after three score years and ten, is not a tragedy; and

Even if he were your father?

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Simon Brooke wrote:
the the difference in probability, for a road cyclist, between an
accident in which a helmet would mitigate injury and an accident in
which a helmet would aggravate injury is marginal at best.

I agree. The point I thought David was making was that people who
advocate helmets for cyclists use KSI accidents involving cyclists as
propaganda. On the other hand when peds are killed in accidents where
helmets **might** have made a difference similiar claims are not made.
A failure of logic on their part.
As that argument has been made before on this group I was just pointing
out that I did not think starting a new thread about it quoting that
incident was appropriate.
Iain

On 29 Sep 2005 02:36:22 -0700 someone who may be
" wrote this:-

As that argument has been made before on this group I was just pointing
out that I did not think starting a new thread about it quoting that
incident was appropriate.

I think it entirely appropriate to show the flaws in their logic by
using the same approach as they do.


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I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

David Hansen wrote:
On 29 Sep 2005 02:36:22 -0700 someone who may be
" wrote this:-

As that argument has been made before on this group I was just pointing
out that I did not think starting a new thread about it quoting that
incident was appropriate.

I think it entirely appropriate to show the flaws in their logic by
using the same approach as they do.

Trying to show the flaws in their logic to people who can't think
straight can be very frustrating.

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in message , Mark
Tranchant ') wrote:

Simon Brooke wrote:

(i) dying suddenly from a blow to the head while enjoying oneself,
especially after three score years and ten, is not a tragedy; and

Even if he were your father?

Especially if he were my father. I would far, far rather my father had
died that way than as he did, slowly and painfully in a hospital ward
stinking of rancid fat. Wouldn't you?

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(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
;; Voltaire RIP Dr David Kelly 1945-2004

wrote:

I agree. The point I thought David was making was that people who
advocate helmets for cyclists use KSI accidents involving cyclists as
propaganda. On the other hand when peds are killed in accidents where
helmets **might** have made a difference similiar claims are not made.
A failure of logic on their part.


This morning's radio had a report about someone who had run his car into
trees in the New Forest and was in hospital with serious head injuries.
No one commented on whether he was or should have been wearing a
helmet. Strange that.


--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon