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Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. |
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Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. |
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On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better, bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing behind. The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down. Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just because they don't have an engine? That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit without bothering to signal. The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist. 100% the drivers fault. |
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Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote: Nuxx Bar wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better, bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing behind. The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down. Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just because they don't have an engine? That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit without bothering to signal. The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist. 100% the drivers fault. I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't crash into them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you are taking, that is just part of using the roads. If the cyclist had been taking sufficient care the crash would not have occurred, likewise if the car had been more cautious the crash would not have happened, both parties are at fault. It is no good being 'in the right' if you crash into something, whether you are in a car or not. But if you are very vulnerable like a cyclist then it makes even more sense to ride very cautiously and with massive forethought. As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car driver and was certain it was staying put. |
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On Mar 10, 9:34*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car driver and was certain it was staying put.- Hide quoted text - - So you'd drive more slowly than that cyclist there? Care to estimate a number (in mph) that you would deem suitable? And as for eye contact, do you then drive even more slowly at night? Do you ever consider that as it is onl;y you, you could be wrong? |
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On 10/03/2011 09:34, Mrcheerful wrote:
Dex wrote: On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote: Nuxx Bar wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better, bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing behind. The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down. Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just because they don't have an engine? That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit without bothering to signal. The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist. 100% the drivers fault. I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't crash into them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you are taking, that is just part of using the roads. Nope. There are THOUSANDS of accidents on our roads due to this type of behaviour, how many of them got the blame for the other party pulling out in front of them? If the cyclist had been taking sufficient care the crash would not have occurred, Rubbish, save the vid to your favourite media player and see how much time the cyclist had to react once the driver crossed the line, then remember your highway code for thinking and braking distances when trying to stop. likewise if the car had been more cautious the crash would not have happened, both parties are at fault. By the looks of the comments the DRIVER was the one prosecuted, not both, and the coppers had the evidence to prove it was only one parties fault, the motorist. It is no good being 'in the right' if you crash into something, whether you are in a car or not. But if you are very vulnerable like a cyclist then it makes even more sense to ride very cautiously and with massive forethought. As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car driver and was certain it was staying put. Look at the vid again, none of the cars seen were indicating, especially the bloke pulling out in front of the cyclist, yet the cyclist was at fault for not indicating? Very twisted logic. Let's hope you are never seen anywhere near a crash investigation. |
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Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 09:34, Mrcheerful wrote: Dex wrote: On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote: Nuxx Bar wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better, bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing behind. The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down. Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just because they don't have an engine? That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit without bothering to signal. The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist. 100% the drivers fault. I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't crash into them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you are taking, that is just part of using the roads. Nope. There are THOUSANDS of accidents on our roads due to this type of behaviour, how many of them got the blame for the other party pulling out in front of them? If the cyclist had been taking sufficient care the crash would not have occurred, remember your highway code for thinking and braking distances when trying to stop. I am glad to see you agree that the cyclist was travelling too fast for the situation. |
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On 11/03/2011 06:46, Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 09:34, Mrcheerful wrote: Dex wrote: On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote: Nuxx Bar wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better, bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing behind. The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down. Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just because they don't have an engine? That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit without bothering to signal. The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist. 100% the drivers fault. I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't crash into them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you are taking, that is just part of using the roads. Nope. There are THOUSANDS of accidents on our roads due to this type of behaviour, how many of them got the blame for the other party pulling out in front of them? If the cyclist had been taking sufficient care the crash would not have occurred, Rubbish, save the vid to your favourite media player and see how much time the cyclist had to react once the driver crossed the line, then remember your highway code for thinking and braking distances when trying to stop. likewise if the car had been more cautious the crash would not have happened, both parties are at fault. By the looks of the comments the DRIVER was the one prosecuted, not both, and the coppers had the evidence to prove it was only one parties fault, the motorist. It is no good being 'in the right' if you crash into something, whether you are in a car or not. But if you are very vulnerable like a cyclist then it makes even more sense to ride very cautiously and with massive forethought. As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car driver and was certain it was staying put. Look at the vid again, none of the cars seen were indicating, especially the bloke pulling out in front of the cyclist, yet the cyclist was at fault for not indicating? Very twisted logic. Let's hope you are never seen anywhere near a crash investigation. Do be careful not to offer personal abuse when posting, dear chap. Your attitude to it is decidedly odd. You see it where it doesn't exist and fail to see it when you resort to it. |
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:05:15 +0000, Phil W Lee wrote:
snip Your logic(?) dictates that if (when?) someone beats you to a bloody pulp with a pick-axe handle, it will be your own fault for not running away fast enough. I really really hope that you get the opportunity to test this. You deprive civilised people of oxygen they deserve. What a tosser -- If the *******s won't do anything about the taxi driver risking people's lives by dangerous driving, book him to take your kids on a trip, then report him for kiddy-fiddling. He'll never drive a taxi again. Phil W Lee 6 February 2011 |
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:19:46 +0000
Judith wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:05:15 +0000, Phil W Lee wrote: Your logic(?) dictates that if (when?) someone beats you to a bloody pulp with a pick-axe handle, it will be your own fault for not running away fast enough. I really really hope that you get the opportunity to test this. You deprive civilised people of oxygen they deserve. What a tosser That may be true, but he has a point. |
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