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REI Safari or Surly Long haul Trucker?
I want to do some touring this summer.
Any help on deciding between the tow bikes above? |
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REI Safari or Surly Long haul Trucker?
On Mar 27, 10:30*am, wrote:
I want to do some touring this summer. Any help on deciding between the tow bikes above? Both are excellent choices. If you're going to be touring on rougher terrain, the Novara would probably be a better choice, but other than that, it's apples and oranges. I think the Surly's pertier. FWIW, the spec on the Surly is next to perfect, except for the tires--it may just have been the set I ran--but WTB "Slickasaurus" tires are the most cheesy flat-prone name brand tires I've ever run. Worth a consideration before taking off into the sunset for sure, but not a deal breaker. |
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REI Safari or Surly Long haul Trucker?
landotter wrote:
On Mar 27, 10:30*am, wrote: I want to do some touring this summer. Any help on deciding between the tow bikes above? Both are excellent choices. If you're going to be touring on rougher terrain, the Novara would probably be a better choice, but other than that, it's apples and oranges. I think the Surly's pertier. FWIW, the spec on the Surly is next to perfect, except for the tires--it may just have been the set I ran--but WTB "Slickasaurus" tires are the most cheesy flat-prone name brand tires I've ever run. Worth a consideration before taking off into the sunset for sure, but not a deal breaker. OK thanks I'm 50 and have dreamed of a tour all my life but never went I'm now at an age where my health concerns me more than money or time so will do a tour this summer b4 its too late |
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REI Safari or Surly Long haul Trucker?
On Mar 27, 10:30 am, wrote:
I want to do some touring this summer. Any help on deciding between the tow bikes above? I was facing similar choice - wanted a touring bike and at the end had to decide betw Surly LHT and Novarra Randonee. For me Novarra Safari was out of a question - I wanted something that would look like road bike. PLus I had Novarra Viaggio - I guess you can call it earlier version of Safari and I was VERY unhappy with that B-shaped handlebar. I eventually went with Randonee for two reasons - all things being about the same on both bikes Randonee had much better wheel and I wanted durable bike. Plus I know everybody in the bike shop at local REI and those guys are fantastic when it comes to service and repairs. |
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"Woland99" wrote in message ... On Mar 27, 10:30 am, wrote: snip PLus I had Novarra Viaggio - I guess you can call it earlier version of Safari and I was VERY unhappy with that B-shaped handlebar. I just put some "trekking" bars on a bridgestone xo-3 and have been more than satisfied with them. What's was the aspect that you found unsatisfactory in them- the more upright ride they afford? Interested....Pat |
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REI Safari or Surly Long haul Trucker?
On Mar 27, 8:36 pm, "patrick mitchel" wrote:
"Woland99" wrote in message ... On Mar 27, 10:30 am, wrote: snip PLus I had Novarra Viaggio - I guess you can call it earlier version of Safari and I was VERY unhappy with that B-shaped handlebar. I just put some "trekking" bars on a bridgestone xo-3 and have been more than satisfied with them. What's was the aspect that you found unsatisfactory in them- the more upright ride they afford? Interested....Pat I really cannot answer this question in a way that would be unbiased. My problem with these type of handlebars on Novarra Viaggio was probably affected to a great degree with fact that I bought the bike without proper sizing and I could never find configuration that was comfortable for a longer ride. I used to commute on it (10-11miles one way) and I constantly had problems with numbness in my hands. I do not think that there was enough variety in hand positions to prevent it. By comparison now I have Novarra Randonee with regular drop bars and stem that can be raised up so you top bar position is VERY relaxed. And I have zero problems with my hands. On that Viaggio I eventually replaced handlebar with MTB style one and put in steeper stem and made it sortta comfort bike. |
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REI Safari or Surly Long haul Trucker?
Woland99 wrote:
On Mar 27, 10:30 am, wrote: I want to do some touring this summer. Any help on deciding between the tow bikes above? I was facing similar choice - wanted a touring bike and at the end had to decide betw Surly LHT and Novarra Randonee. For me Novarra Safari was out of a question - I wanted something that would look like road bike. PLus I had Novarra Viaggio - I guess you can call it earlier version of Safari and I was VERY unhappy with that B-shaped handlebar. I eventually went with Randonee for two reasons - all things being about the same on both bikes Randonee had much better wheel and I wanted durable bike. Plus I know everybody in the bike shop at local REI and those guys are fantastic when it comes to service and repairs. OK My thoughts abt the Safari are that I may need to ride down some pretty big gravel roads occasionally on a tour.... as well as good paved roads. I worry abt the wheels and tires on the LHT or Novara randoneee |
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REI Safari or Surly Long haul Trucker?
Woland99 wrote:
By comparison now I have Novarra Randonee with regular drop bars and stem that can be raised up so you top bar position is VERY relaxed. And I have zero problems with my hands. On that Viaggio I eventually replaced handlebar with MTB style one and put in steeper stem and made it sortta comfort bike. Interesting Thanks for that opinion I'm going to REI on Say to ride and look at both bikes I REALLY REALY need to take a tour this summer and want to get going with it. I think my soul and body needs to be outside in the fresh air for extended period of time and away form desks, computers, cell phones, etc. Ha! |
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On Mar 28, 10:34*am, wrote:
Woland99 wrote: On Mar 27, 10:30 am, wrote: I want to do some touring this summer. Any help on deciding between the tow bikes above? I was facing similar choice - wanted a touring bike and at the end had to decide betw Surly LHT and Novarra Randonee. For me Novarra Safari was out of a question - I wanted something that would look like road bike. PLus I had Novarra Viaggio - I guess you can call it earlier version of Safari and I was VERY unhappy with that B-shaped handlebar. I eventually went with Randonee for two reasons - all things being about the same on both bikes Randonee had much better wheel and I wanted durable bike. Plus I know everybody in the bike shop at local REI and those guys are fantastic when it comes to service and repairs. OK My thoughts abt the Safari are that I may need to ride down some pretty big gravel roads occasionally on a tour.... as well as good paved roads. *I worry abt the wheels and tires on the LHT or Novara randoneee Both the LHT and Randonee come with too gimpy of a tire IMHO, but that's easy to remedy. the LHT has super tough wheels with Deore hubs, 36 spokes, and nice Alex Adventurer rims--certainly I'd bring either set up to tension before an extended tour. All three are good, solid choices. The LHT is a little more traditional with choices like Sugino cranks, bar-ends, square taper BB, regular bend bars,etc. No major deal breakers. |
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REI Safari or Surly Long haul Trucker?
On Mar 28, 12:03*pm, landotter wrote:
On Mar 28, 10:34*am, wrote: Woland99 wrote: On Mar 27, 10:30 am, wrote: I want to do some touring this summer. Any help on deciding between the tow bikes above? I was facing similar choice - wanted a touring bike and at the end had to decide betw Surly LHT and Novarra Randonee. For me Novarra Safari was out of a question - I wanted something that would look like road bike. PLus I had Novarra Viaggio - I guess you can call it earlier version of Safari and I was VERY unhappy with that B-shaped handlebar. I eventually went with Randonee for two reasons - all things being about the same on both bikes Randonee had much better wheel and I wanted durable bike. Plus I know everybody in the bike shop at local REI and those guys are fantastic when it comes to service and repairs. OK My thoughts abt the Safari are that I may need to ride down some pretty big gravel roads occasionally on a tour.... as well as good paved roads. *I worry abt the wheels and tires on the LHT or Novara randoneee Both the LHT and Randonee come with too gimpy of a tire IMHO, but that's easy to remedy. the LHT has super tough wheels with Deore hubs, 36 spokes, and nice Alex Adventurer rims--certainly I'd bring either set up to tension before an extended tour. All three are good, solid choices. The LHT is a little more traditional with choices like Sugino cranks, bar-ends, square taper BB, regular bend bars,etc. No major deal breakers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - sorting everything out before leaving is best. everything has to go right where it goes packwise. The mission is orbital. Touring motels? light load? Conti TT's are OK for the rear but a 35mm double wall rim, a CR-18 iza good idea. heavy camping loads needa Pasela Messenger, Conti Contact on the rear with a TT front. Gravel? If there's a loota dirt upahead then go for a 29er or MTB if ura short dude. Drag dirt tires along at wider widths than road tires. Sheldon Brown's website has a rim/tire width graph for switching. Touring dirt suggest a slightly wider front than rear. Longer chainstays are better for tracking. MTB give shorter chainstays, the Monocog comes from cyclocross. Take a look at that idea. The 29er is stocked with wide slicks for smooth surfaces as well as Conti knobbies. Overall the 29er/MTB with longer stays may be a better choice for touring than a traditional sports-tourer I have a 29er going together for the Front Range, Glacier Conti Divide and Trans Canada/Myrna Canyon road-a Monocog converted to 3/8 speeds BUT the cheap asian import japanese sports tourer comes along. See Pavelka? 'long distance touring' in World Catalog at your library than tap other books hyperlink. also many guides for your path. SEARCH: Bicycle Touring Kearny Stock saddles? try a Specialized Minkow and definitely Spec thorn proof tubes with a CO2 inflator. The biggest deal is getting the size right. You want to barrel over the top of the pedal stroke and not pressure the knee directly downward while the tuberosities sit on a firm surface without having inside thighs rub on saddle's sides. see Campmor.com for polyester T shirts and poly/acrylic socks: keeps warm when wet or cool when sweating-nooooooooooooooooo cotton. bring a WalMart painters trap for roadside shelter and bottom tarp. |
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