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bpr wrote:
* Detachable hood * Underarm zippers * Front pockets * Rear pockets * Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap) My new jacket comes with a "rain tail." It deploys down from the back over the seat, keeping it (and my butt) dry in wet weather. (Normally it is velcroed out of sight inside the jacket.) It seems like a good idea (especially since I do not have fenders to heep the splatter off my back), though I haven't had occasion to try it out yet. |
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Dennis P. Harris wrote:
On 22 Apr 2004 08:05:30 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc, (bpr) wrote: I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective. So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good Gortex cycling jacket. if you want *waterproof* don't buy goretex! in windy situations, the seams *will* leak. Good quality Goretex garments have taped/sealed seams which don't leak. However, I don't think Goretex is of much value for cycling. It doesn't breathe enough to make a difference. You'll be just as sweaty as with a vinyl raincoat. A better solution is a totally waterproof (and cheaper) fabric with big vents, such as... i recommend the burley rainsuit. waterproof, rugged, good ventilation. it's the choice of cyclists here in Rain Country(tm). http://www.burley.com/products/raingear/default.aspx On dealing with rain, listen to our friends from the Pacific Northwest! Matt O. |
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There is no such thing as a waterproof cycling jacket in which you can also cycle comfortably. You must either accept to get wet from the rain from the outside or accept to get wet from the inside from your transpiration (like when using a plastic bag). My burley did pretty good. If I did not have my backpack on it would have been great. but that was at temps of 55 and below.any warmer and I usually don't use a jacket. but it did not have a hood so my neck always got wet. -- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:51:32 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc,
(Tom Keats) wrote: The 25 bux for the rain cape is, for me, a better investment than a hi-tech fabric jacket. they're useless if it rains a lot, or if it's very windy. |
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i recommend the burley rainsuit. waterproof, rugged, good ventilation. it's the choice of cyclists here in Rain Country(tm). http://www.burley.com/products/raingear/default.aspx On dealing with rain, listen to our friends from the Pacific Northwest! yep (G) ventilation is the real key the more the better. last years burley coat had breast vents too. I really like it. I just vary what I wear under it to keep from getting too hot. the only reason I would sweat was from my backpack on top of it. portland oregon home of liquid sunshine. -- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. |
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In article , bpr
wrote: I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective. So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good Gortex cycling jacket. I have found that Goretex always breath better than Ultrex, Texapore or Entrant GII and other breathable waterproof fabric. While Goretex maybe waterproof, you probably need to expect some dampness since the fabric will not be quick to vent with high aerobic exercise, like climbing a hill with your bike. So what to do?? I own 3 rain jackets. For really bad downpour in the winter months of the wet coast of Vancouver, I use a Goretex jacket and will try to maintain my cadence so that, I don't sweat profusely. For spring and summer time, I use a lighter nylon jacket that has a coating of DWR (Durable Water Repellent) and that works great. Both of these jackets have underarm zippers and back vents built-in, which I considered them essential, especially when I sweat easily. I am now experimenting with an Arcteryx Gamma SV softshell jacket for wet and snowy winter riding this year and it is so far the best warm and breatheable jacket. This jacket is by no means waterproof, but it is very water resistant and it is also damn breatheable, much more so than my 3 ply Goretex. I never felt wetter in this jacket than with my Goretex, which I consider the next best thing and it is super wind resistant, just like my pair of Aerotex gloves! Also, do you think these features are needed in a waterproof cycling jacket: * Detachable hood This is not necessary. There is an accessory available from Sugoi, Pearl Izumi and MEC that is made of Goretex and goes on to cover the vent holes of your helmet to make it waterproof. This is more ideal than the jacket hood since it gives you full side to side vision -- a must if you need to ride in heavy traffic. * Underarm zippers YES, for me.. Also a plus is the back vent and a pair of thumb knots. Remember that if you don't have thumb knots, these vents are useless!! The thumb knots allow air to be scooped in from under your wrist and the gets circulated and out these vents. Most people use their Goretex jackets without the thumb knots and wondered why the jackets don't breath! * Front pockets Front hidden pockets are useful, especially to store your keys and money. * Rear pockets I do have it on my jacket. I usually store a couple of powerbars, but when it rains, it interferes with my back vent and I don't like that. * Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap) It depends on how many ply Goretex you are buying. Typically cheapee 2 ply jackets are foldable. The good 3 ply ones are not as easily foldable, but these are the ones to get if you want quality and durability. But, if you are not planning to always cycle in a heavy downpour -- just enough to find shelter -- you might want to consider getting yourself a softshell. Softshell jackets are nice, form fitting and the newer ones are very super water resistant, warm and way more breatheable than Goretex. |
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In article uXVhc.4397$aQ6.527723@attbi_s51, Peter Cole
wrote: * Rear pockets I have these on one jacket, they have a tendency to fill with water when it rains. Good Goretex cycling jackets have these as standard equipment. 1, Rear pocket or pockets with seam taped and laminated zippers for ultimate water proofness. 2, Rear pocket or pockets come with a rain hood with a drawstring to keep rain out. Most Goretex cycling jackets I considered these days are just junk. More are concerned about flashy looks and foldability rather than on weather performance. |
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In article , Dennis P.
Harris wrote: On 22 Apr 2004 08:05:30 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc, (bpr) wrote: I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective. So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good Gortex cycling jacket. if you want *waterproof* don't buy goretex! in windy situations, the seams *will* leak. i recommend the burley rainsuit. waterproof, rugged, good ventilation. it's the choice of cyclists here in Rain Country(tm). http://www.burley.com/products/raingear/default.aspx Again.. People seemed to make an outright false and unsubstantiated claims. A good and properly made Goretex cycling jacket has *ALL* the seams taped. Another feature that made Arcteryx brand so famous is laminated zippers, found only on top end jackets and some panniers made by Arkel. When both are combined, the jacket won't leak. The problem is, Goretex jackets are hard to sell nowadays, unlike when it was introduced in the early 80s. Everybody seemed to have one and if they are properly cared for, last a long time. So, some companies I found cut corners to make the jackets "cheaper" and thus give the good name Goretex a bad name. |
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However, I don't think Goretex is of much value for cycling. It doesn't breathe enough to make a difference. You'll be just as sweaty as with a vinyl raincoat. A better solution is a totally waterproof (and cheaper) fabric with big vents, such as... It also depends on whether the jacket itself have the supplied thumb knots or not and if the user of the jacket is using them properly. Most jackets don't come with thumb knots, but they are essential in making the jacket breath better in high aerobic exercises. When used properly, they allow openings underneath both of your wrists and these served as air ducts. As you cycle, air gets scooped into these ducts and circulate around your body, carrying body heat away and then out the supplied vents (underarm and back). The more vents, the better the circulation. If the circulation is too much, adjust the vents' opening. Unfortunately, most people just velcro these up, so how do you figure air is going to circulate inside your jacket?? Essentially, your jacket becomes an oven and thus the feeling of dampness from your sweat. Opening these vents up just serve no purpose whatsoever. Venting does a fine job to a certain point, but I cycle in the wet coast of Vancouver and I sweat profusely, my Goretex jacket has never failed me. I also used it on the Queen Charlotte Islands, world's rank #2 as being the wettest and survived. |
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