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Old April 3rd 12, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
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Default Cyclist damaged car because driver hooted

A good reason for bicycles to have registration plates.

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Road-rag...ail/story.html

A cyclist ripped off a car wing mirror in a fit of road rage during an
incident in Bath.

Police are appealing for witnesses to the altercation, which took place
outside the Weston pub just after 11am on Monday, March 12.

The driver of a Ford Fusion beeped his horn at the cyclist as they
approached the traffic lights, who ripped off the passenger side mirror and
rode off along Newbridge Road.

He is described as white, in his late teens or early 20s, about 5ft 10in
tall, and slim with dark hair.

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Old April 3rd 12, 01:20 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
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Default Sustrans says Boris Johnson intent on bringing London "to a standstill"

QUOTE:

With the London mayoral elections exactly one month away, Sustrans has
accused Boris Johnson of being “intent on bringing the capital to a
standstill” following publication of the transport manifesto by the
mayor, who is seeking re-election. The charity described Labour
candidate Ken Livingstone, on the other hand, as “committed to
providing transport for all.”

Opinion polls suggest that the poll on 3 May will be a very close-run
affair between Mr Johnson and his predecessor as Mayor of London Mr
Livingstone battling it out over the coming weeks to become Mayor of
Lodnon for the next four years.

In recent months, Mr Johnson has been criticised by opposition
politicians and cycle campaigners alike for his determination to
prioritise smooth traffic flow above all else when it comes to
transport policy.

His transport manifesto, announced last week – a copy is attached at
the end of this article – devotes a page and a half to cycling.
There’s nothing in it that is actually new, with the document
reiterating initiatives that have already been put in place or that
have previously been announced.

That’s perhaps unsurprising given that Mr Johnson is after all the
present mayor and has been responsible for formulating London’s
transport policy over the past four years.

However, the election campaign, in which cycling and the safety of
cyclists in particular has emerged as one of the key issues, did give
him a chance perhaps to acknowledge areas where he had got it wrong
and head off criticisms from his opponents. It’s an opportunity he has
failed to seize.

Instead, the document outlines issues such as the planned expansion
outside the centre of the capital of the Barclays Cycle Hire Scheme,
the trebling to 12 of the number of Barclays Cycle Superhighways, and
the previously announced review of 500 junctions by Transport for
London and London cycling festival which debuts in summer 2013.

According to Carl Pittam, London director for Sustrans, motor vehicles
continue to dominate his thinking when it comes to the transport
policy set out in Mr Johnson’s manifesto.

"Boris Johnson claims he has a vision for transport, but it appears he
is somewhat short-sighted,” Mr Pittam commented.

“His proposals put the car right back at the heart of transport
policy, yet nearly half of Londoners don't have access to a car.
Expanding roads, ruling out congestion charge expansion and putting up
fares will only see more traffic on our roads.

"For all Boris's talk of getting more of us on our bikes there is not
a single commitment to additional funding for cycling or walking. It
seems that Boris is intent on bringing the capital to a standstill."

Mr Livingstone’s manifesto – again, you will find a copy at the end of
the article – pledges to cut fares on London Transport and perhaps in
acknowledgment of his past perception as being an ‘enemy’ of the
motorist, he has also promised not to increase the Congestion Charge,
nor will he seek to reintroduce the Western extension to the
Congestion Charge Zone.

In terms of cycling, Mr Livingstone says that his key priority is to
improve the safety of cyclists, with 16 killed on the capital’s
streets in 2011 and a further four already in the opening three months
of this year.

That include focusing on safety at junctions and on the Barclays Cycle
Superhighways in general, as well as providing safe routes to town
centres in Outer London and introducing “a consistent cycle network
across London,” with Mr Livingstone pledging his support to the London
Cycle Campaign’s ‘Love London, Go Dutch’ campaign.

"Ken Livingstone sees that Londoners want a choice in how they get
around and is committed to providing transport for all - unlike Boris
Johnson whose focus leaves out the millions Londoners who don't own a
car,” said Mr Pittam.

"Many people in London's suburbs want safer routes get around by bike
so it's great that Ken has promised to invest in traffic-free
greenways.

"London's streets would be safer for everyone with a 20 miles per hour
speed limit on residential streets – whoever wins the election must
strive to make this the norm," he added.

The Green Party’s candidate Jenny Jones is due to publish her
manifesto on 12 April, but speaking last week after Mr Johnson
launched his transport manifesto, she maintained that "London needs a
new vision for transport.”

Ms Jones continued: "Scores of deaths and injuries to cyclists, one of
the worst congestion problems in Europe, an air pollution problem that
leads to thousands of early deaths, creaking public transport
infrastructure and fares that price Londoners off the tube.

"It is no longer acceptable for us to put our fingers in our ears and
pretend everything is going to be ok with London's transport," she
insisted.

"Instead of wasting tens of millions every year in extra subsidy for a
New Bus for London, as Mayor I would focus on lowering fares and
making the roads safer.

"And instead of wasting hundreds of millions on new roads and capacity
expansion, I would focus on improving the alternatives to driving and
dealing with air pollution," she added.

Liberal Democrat candidate Brian Paddick has yet to launch his
transport manifesto, but commenting on Mr Johnson’s proposals,
Caroline Pidgeon, the party’s leader in the Greater London Assembly,
said: “There needs to be a reality check with every statement issued
by Boris Johnson.

“Four years ago he promised Londoners that the Tube would run for
longer at the weekends, that he would end exorbitant train prices and
ensure that the bike hire scheme cost nothing to the taxpayer. He even
promised to work hard to negotiate a no strike deal with the Tube
unions.

“On all these issues the Mayor’s past promises have been broken. Boris
Johnson should be judged on his 2008 transport manifesto, not the
latest set of false promises he is making to Londoners,” she
concluded.

Sustrans has said that it will provide further comment on Ms Jones'
and Mr Paddick's transport manifestos once they have been published.

http://road.cc/content/news/56184-ma...ringing-london

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Old April 3rd 12, 01:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
Bill
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Default Cyclist damaged car because driver hooted

A good reason for bicycles to have registration plates.

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Road-rag...28-detail/stor
y.html

A cyclist ripped off a car wing mirror in a fit of road rage during an
incident in Bath.

Police are appealing for witnesses to the altercation, which took place
outside the Weston pub just after 11am on Monday, March 12.

The driver of a Ford Fusion beeped his horn at the cyclist as they
approached the traffic lights, who ripped off the passenger side mirror
and rode off along Newbridge Road.

He is described as white, in his late teens or early 20s, about 5ft 10in
tall, and slim with dark hair.



A sad reflection on society, those that can remain anonymous get away
with doing things that those are accountable cannot get away with.
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Old April 3rd 12, 01:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
NorthWalesYorkie[_2_]
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Default Cyclist damaged car because driver hooted

On Apr 3, 1:04*pm, "Mr Benn" wrote:

The driver of a Ford Fusion beeped his horn at the cyclist as they
approached the traffic lights, who ripped off the passenger side mirror and
rode off along Newbridge Road.


Lets hope the driver's learnt his lesson.
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Old April 3rd 12, 01:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
Simon Mason
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Default Sustrans says Boris Johnson intent on bringing London "to a standstill"



"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...


“His proposals put the car right back at the heart of transport
policy, yet nearly half of Londoners don't have access to a car.
Expanding roads, ruling out congestion charge expansion and putting up
fares will only see more traffic on our roads.

"For all Boris's talk of getting more of us on our bikes there is not
a single commitment to additional funding for cycling or walking. It
seems that Boris is intent on bringing the capital to a standstill."


I would have thought that would make the capital *safer* for cyclists with
all of the other traffic stationary.
Apart from the extra fumes that is of course.

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Old April 3rd 12, 01:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
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Default Cyclist damaged car because driver hooted

NorthWalesYorkie wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:04 pm, "Mr Benn" wrote:

The driver of a Ford Fusion beeped his horn at the cyclist as they
approached the traffic lights, who ripped off the passenger side
mirror and rode off along Newbridge Road.


Lets hope the driver's learnt his lesson.


yes, he should have followed the scrote to his home and got his details and
made a claim against him, plus got the Police involved for the cyclist
leaving the scene of an accident without giving his details.


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Old April 3rd 12, 01:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
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Default Sustrans says Boris Johnson intent on bringing London "to a standstill"

On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:52:34 +0100
"Simon Mason" wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...


“His proposals put the car right back at the heart of transport
policy, yet nearly half of Londoners don't have access to a car.
Expanding roads, ruling out congestion charge expansion and putting up
fares will only see more traffic on our roads.

"For all Boris's talk of getting more of us on our bikes there is not
a single commitment to additional funding for cycling or walking. It
seems that Boris is intent on bringing the capital to a standstill."


Why does walking need funding , is there a shortage of pavements?

How about you A) stop reply to yourself all the time like some kind of
schizo and B) stop generally talking ********.

B2003


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Old April 3rd 12, 01:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
Simon Mason[_4_]
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Default Sustrans says Boris Johnson intent on bringing London "to a standstill"

On Apr 3, 1:56*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:52:34 +0100

"Simon Mason" wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message
....


“His proposals put the car right back at the heart of transport
policy, yet nearly half of Londoners don't have access to a car.
Expanding roads, ruling out congestion charge expansion and putting up
fares will only see more traffic on our roads.


"For all Boris's talk of getting more of us on our bikes there is not
a single commitment to additional funding for cycling or walking. It
seems that Boris is intent on bringing the capital to a standstill."


Why does walking need funding , is there a shortage of pavements?

How about you A) stop reply to yourself all the time like some kind of
schizo and B) stop generally talking ********.

B2003


Why?
It is Boris that is talking rubbish - I am only quoting his words.
Take it up with him.

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Old April 3rd 12, 02:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
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Default Cyclist damaged car because driver hooted


"NorthWalesYorkie" wrote in message
...
On Apr 3, 1:04 pm, "Mr Benn" wrote:

The driver of a Ford Fusion beeped his horn at the cyclist as they
approached the traffic lights, who ripped off the passenger side mirror
and
rode off along Newbridge Road.


Lets hope the driver's learnt his lesson.


I don't think a driver using his horn is justification for damaging a
vehicle.

Why do you think police want to question the cyclist?

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Old April 3rd 12, 02:13 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.transport
Simon Mason[_4_]
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Default Sustrans says Boris Johnson intent on bringing London "to a standstill"

On Apr 3, 1:56*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:52:34 +0100

"Simon Mason" wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message
....


“His proposals put the car right back at the heart of transport
policy, yet nearly half of Londoners don't have access to a car.
Expanding roads, ruling out congestion charge expansion and putting up
fares will only see more traffic on our roads.


"For all Boris's talk of getting more of us on our bikes there is not
a single commitment to additional funding for cycling or walking. It
seems that Boris is intent on bringing the capital to a standstill."


Why does walking need funding , is there a shortage of pavements?

How about you A) stop reply to yourself all the time like some kind of
schizo and B) stop generally talking ********.

B2003


Can you actually vote in the mayoral election then?

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