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Armsrtong Joint Defense Proposal
"BLafferty" wrote in message
... You have to love Hamilton's attorney's response, "I do see my guy as a defendant." Joint defense agreements are used by those haing a common defense, legally and strategically. What would an non-doper like Armstrong have in common with a doper like Hamilton? Oh, yeah. Armstrong's a doper, too. ROTFLMAO!! http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/arms...-with-hamilton Yes, Hamilton's attorney comes with the highest of credentials. A person with a background all of rbr would trust. Now, who's corporate attorney was Mr. Manderson? From his website- http://www.mandersonllp.com/attorneys/manderson.html ====== Mr. Manderson is a corporate lawyer specializing in mergers & acquisitions, asset sales, securities and restructuring transactions. He has represented public and private companies, private equity funds and individuals, including Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc., Signature Group Holdings, Inc., Olympic Gold Medalist Tyler Hamilton, Amgen, Inc., Dole Food Company, Seidler Equity Partners, Marwit Capital, Credit Suisse First Boston, Morgan Stanley & Co., and many others. Recently, Mr. Manderson served as Special Corporate Counsel to Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc. in connection with its bankruptcy and subsequent $57 million sale of its intellectual property to VF Corporation. ====== Rock & Republic. Yes, I'm sure Attorney Manderson is all about getting to the truth in things. He was, specifically, chief legal counsel for Rock & Republic. Obviously that's where he met Tyler, and it's just a bit funny for Mr. Manderson to be joking about a common defense with Lance when in fact he may be making sure that Mr. Ball's assets are covered. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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Armsrtong Joint Defense Proposal
On May 25, 12:43*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: "BLafferty" wrote in message ... You have to love Hamilton's attorney's response, "I do see my guy as a defendant." *Joint defense agreements are used by those haing a common defense, legally and strategically. *What would an non-doper like Armstrong have in common with a doper like Hamilton? *Oh, yeah. Armstrong's a doper, too. ROTFLMAO!! http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/arms...d-to-have-sugg... Yes, Hamilton's attorney comes with the highest of credentials. A person with a background all of rbr would trust. Now, who's corporate attorney was Mr. Manderson? From his website-http://www.mandersonllp.com/attorneys/manderson.html ====== Mr. Manderson is a corporate lawyer specializing in mergers & acquisitions, asset sales, securities and restructuring transactions. He has represented public and private companies, private equity funds and individuals, including Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc., Signature Group Holdings, Inc., Olympic Gold Medalist Tyler Hamilton, Amgen, Inc., Dole Food Company, Seidler Equity Partners, Marwit Capital, Credit Suisse First Boston, Morgan Stanley & Co., and many others. Recently, Mr. Manderson served as Special Corporate Counsel to Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc. in connection with its bankruptcy and subsequent $57 million sale of its intellectual property to VF Corporation. ====== Rock & Republic. Yes, I'm sure Attorney Manderson is all about getting to the truth in things. He was, specifically, chief legal counsel for Rock & Republic. Obviously that's where he met Tyler, and it's just a bit funny for Mr. Manderson to be joking about a common defense with Lance when in fact he may be making sure that Mr. Ball's assets are covered. --Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com Mike, if you have reason to believe that Mr. Manderson has acted unprofessionally in his representation of any client(s), you should take the facts within your possession to the appropriate bar disciplinary committee. Mr. Manderson's client list is irrelevant to his representation of Tyler Hamilton. Now you may chose to discount his assertion that his client Hamilton told the truth to the grand jury just because he's a lawyer retained by Hamilton, but I think the fact that Hamilton received, through Manderson's efforts, partial immunity from prosecution speaks volumes for his client's credibility. Hamilton knows that if he lied to the Grand Jury, he ill have his immunity from prosecution revoked and face not only the charges based on what he lied about, but also perjury. The bottom line, Mike, is that Armstrong is about to be indicted along with a host of business partners and friends. The big question for him is, can he cut a deal for a plea by turning on Weisel, Och, Stapleton, Johnson and a few others. It depends how bad they want Weisel. I think any deal Armstrong gets will include pleading to one or more felonies and doing prison time. So, get some good wine, sit back and enjoy the show that's about to begin. |
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Armsrtong Joint Defense Proposal
Mr. Manderson is a corporate lawyer specializing in mergers &
acquisitions, asset sales, securities and restructuring transactions. He has represented public and private companies, private equity funds and individuals, including Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc., Signature Group Holdings, Inc., Olympic Gold Medalist Tyler Hamilton, Amgen, Inc., Dole Food Company, Seidler Equity Partners, Marwit Capital, Credit Suisse First Boston, Morgan Stanley & Co., and many others. Recently, Mr. Manderson served as Special Corporate Counsel to Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc. in connection with its bankruptcy and subsequent $57 million sale of its intellectual property to VF Corporation. ====== Rock & Republic. Yes, I'm sure Attorney Manderson is all about getting to the truth in things. He was, specifically, chief legal counsel for Rock & Republic. Obviously that's where he met Tyler, and it's just a bit funny for Mr. Manderson to be joking about a common defense with Lance when in fact he may be making sure that Mr. Ball's assets are covered. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com ========= "BLafferty" wrote Mike, if you have reason to believe that Mr. Manderson has acted unprofessionally in his representation of any client(s), you should take the facts within your possession to the appropriate bar disciplinary committee. Mr. Manderson's client list is irrelevant to his representation of Tyler Hamilton. Now you may chose to discount his assertion that his client Hamilton told the truth to the grand jury just because he's a lawyer retained by Hamilton, but I think the fact that Hamilton received, through Manderson's efforts, partial immunity from prosecution speaks volumes for his client's credibility. Hamilton knows that if he lied to the Grand Jury, he ill have his immunity from prosecution revoked and face not only the charges based on what he lied about, but also perjury. The bottom line, Mike, is that Armstrong is about to be indicted along with a host of business partners and friends. The big question for him is, can he cut a deal for a plea by turning on Weisel, Och, Stapleton, Johnson and a few others. It depends how bad they want Weisel. I think any deal Armstrong gets will include pleading to one or more felonies and doing prison time. So, get some good wine, sit back and enjoy the show that's about to begin. ======== Brian: You know more about this than I do which is apparently causing you to suggest something I wasn't. I don't have reason to believe Mr. Manderson is mis-handling Tyler. I was pointing to the irony of Mr. Manderson not thinking Tyler and Lance were on the same team, and yet Mr. Manderson has an interest in both Tyler and Michael Ball. That interest would be in getting both of them off the hook, so not sure where the conflict would be. Looking at the course you're laying out, I think you're still letting passion get in the way of logic. If Lance cops a plea to anything. in exchange for getting to Weisel, I don't see him doing any jail time. Unless serving in jail is a prerequisite to high office in Texas, which it may be. Whatever, I'm waiting to find out what George said. That's the tipping point for how things will play out. If George says he & Lance doped, then at least parts of your scenario play out. But would Lance's team, at this point, actually not know if George rolled on them or not? And if George did (roll on Lance), why wouldn't Lance have already come up with a Plan B and implemented it ahead of any indictments? --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA |
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Armsrtong Joint Defense Proposal
On May 25, 4:49*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: Mr. Manderson is a corporate lawyer specializing in mergers & acquisitions, asset sales, securities and restructuring transactions. He has represented public and private companies, private equity funds and individuals, including Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc., Signature Group Holdings, Inc., Olympic Gold Medalist Tyler Hamilton, Amgen, Inc., Dole Food Company, Seidler Equity Partners, Marwit Capital, Credit Suisse First Boston, Morgan Stanley & Co., and many others. Recently, Mr. Manderson served as Special Corporate Counsel to Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc. in connection with its bankruptcy and subsequent $57 million sale of its intellectual property to VF Corporation. ====== Rock & Republic. Yes, I'm sure Attorney Manderson is all about getting to the truth in things. He was, specifically, chief legal counsel for Rock & Republic. Obviously that's where he met Tyler, and it's just a bit funny for Mr. Manderson to be joking about a common defense with Lance when in fact he may be making sure that Mr. Ball's assets are covered. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com ========= "BLafferty" wrote Mike, if you have reason to believe that Mr. Manderson has acted unprofessionally in his representation of any client(s), you should take the facts within your possession to the appropriate bar disciplinary committee. Mr. Manderson's client list is irrelevant to his representation of Tyler Hamilton. Now you may chose to discount his assertion that his client Hamilton told the truth to the grand jury just because he's a lawyer retained by Hamilton, but I think the fact that Hamilton received, through Manderson's efforts, partial immunity from prosecution speaks volumes for his client's credibility. *Hamilton knows that if he lied to the Grand Jury, he ill have his immunity from prosecution revoked and face not only the charges based on what he lied about, but also perjury. The bottom line, Mike, is that Armstrong is about to be indicted along with a host of business partners and friends. *The big question for him is, can he cut a deal for a plea by turning on Weisel, Och, Stapleton, Johnson and a few others. *It depends how bad they want Weisel. *I think any deal Armstrong gets will include pleading to one or more felonies and doing prison time. So, get some good wine, sit back and enjoy the show that's about to begin. ======== Brian: You know more about this than I do which is apparently causing you to suggest something I wasn't. I don't have reason to believe Mr. Manderson is mis-handling Tyler. I was pointing to the irony of Mr. Manderson not thinking Tyler and Lance were on the same team, and yet Mr. Manderson has an interest in both Tyler and Michael Ball. That interest would be in getting both of them off the hook, so not sure where the conflict would be. Looking at the course you're laying out, I think you're still letting passion get in the way of logic. If Lance cops a plea to anything. in exchange for getting to Weisel, I don't see him doing any jail time. Unless serving in jail is a prerequisite to high office in Texas, which it may be. Whatever, I'm waiting to find out what George said. That's the tipping point for how things will play out. If George says he & Lance doped, then at least parts of your scenario play out. But would Lance's team, at this point, actually not know if George rolled on them or not? And if George did (roll on Lance), why wouldn't Lance have already come up with a Plan B and implemented it ahead of any indictments? --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA Plan B could be a vacation to a country with no extradition treaty. |
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Armsrtong Joint Defense Proposal
On May 25, 3:49*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: Mr. Manderson is a corporate lawyer specializing in mergers & acquisitions, asset sales, securities and restructuring transactions. He has represented public and private companies, private equity funds and individuals, including Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc., Signature Group Holdings, Inc., Olympic Gold Medalist Tyler Hamilton, Amgen, Inc., Dole Food Company, Seidler Equity Partners, Marwit Capital, Credit Suisse First Boston, Morgan Stanley & Co., and many others. Recently, Mr. Manderson served as Special Corporate Counsel to Rock & Republic Enterprises, Inc. in connection with its bankruptcy and subsequent $57 million sale of its intellectual property to VF Corporation. ====== Rock & Republic. Yes, I'm sure Attorney Manderson is all about getting to the truth in things. He was, specifically, chief legal counsel for Rock & Republic. Obviously that's where he met Tyler, and it's just a bit funny for Mr. Manderson to be joking about a common defense with Lance when in fact he may be making sure that Mr. Ball's assets are covered. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com ========= "BLafferty" wrote Mike, if you have reason to believe that Mr. Manderson has acted unprofessionally in his representation of any client(s), you should take the facts within your possession to the appropriate bar disciplinary committee. Mr. Manderson's client list is irrelevant to his representation of Tyler Hamilton. Now you may chose to discount his assertion that his client Hamilton told the truth to the grand jury just because he's a lawyer retained by Hamilton, but I think the fact that Hamilton received, through Manderson's efforts, partial immunity from prosecution speaks volumes for his client's credibility. *Hamilton knows that if he lied to the Grand Jury, he ill have his immunity from prosecution revoked and face not only the charges based on what he lied about, but also perjury. The bottom line, Mike, is that Armstrong is about to be indicted along with a host of business partners and friends. *The big question for him is, can he cut a deal for a plea by turning on Weisel, Och, Stapleton, Johnson and a few others. *It depends how bad they want Weisel. *I think any deal Armstrong gets will include pleading to one or more felonies and doing prison time. So, get some good wine, sit back and enjoy the show that's about to begin. ======== Brian: You know more about this than I do which is apparently causing you to suggest something I wasn't. I don't have reason to believe Mr. Manderson is mis-handling Tyler. I was pointing to the irony of Mr. Manderson not thinking Tyler and Lance were on the same team, and yet Mr. Manderson has an interest in both Tyler and Michael Ball. That interest would be in getting both of them off the hook, so not sure where the conflict would be. Looking at the course you're laying out, I think you're still letting passion get in the way of logic. If Lance cops a plea to anything. in exchange for getting to Weisel, I don't see him doing any jail time. Unless serving in jail is a prerequisite to high office in Texas, which it may be. Whatever, I'm waiting to find out what George said. That's the tipping point for how things will play out. If George says he & Lance doped, then at least parts of your scenario play out. But would Lance's team, at this point, actually not know if George rolled on them or not? And if George did (roll on Lance), why wouldn't Lance have already come up with a Plan B and implemented it ahead of any indictments? --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA These guys aren't rolling. They are telling the truth. They have every ****ing reason to do so (limited immunity) and not one ****ing reason not to. You're ****ing daft mate. Lance has incompetent counsel plain and simple. |
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