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Phil W Lee phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk writes:
Maybe a helmet with an integral wig, free to rotate on the shell, would remove this risk. And if it were a blonde wig may also reduce the chance of being hit in the first place ... -dan |
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JNugent wrote:
I don't wear a helmet but certainly would be less careful if I did. Why? Why I don't wear one? I ride carefully and don't expect to fall off. However, I do know that eventually I will come off, but think the discomfort of wearing a helmet is outweighed by the extra enjoyment of not wearing one. Why I wouldn't be less careful? Just because I have a helmet on, I still don't want to come off. |
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
So perhaps the time is right for you to post your evidence that the incidence of skull fractures is (a) significant and (b) correlated in any way with helmet use? Evidence is unnecessary - it should be obvious to you that any covering of the head will protect the skull. |
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On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:45:34 +0100, Jerry J wrote:
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: So perhaps the time is right for you to post your evidence that the incidence of skull fractures is (a) significant and (b) correlated in any way with helmet use? Evidence is unnecessary - it should be obvious to you that any covering of the head will protect the skull. We could save a lot of time and money in courts with that perspective. "Evidence is unnecessary - it should be obvious to you he's guilty" |
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On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:45:34 +0100, Jerry J wrote:
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: So perhaps the time is right for you to post your evidence that the incidence of skull fractures is (a) significant and (b) correlated in any way with helmet use? Evidence is unnecessary - it should be obvious to you that any covering of the head will protect the skull. Yes, I am convinced that my knitted acrylic balaclava did indeed Save My Life [TM] some years back, but the plural of anecdote is not evidence and the question was actually whether the incidence of skull fracture is either significant or correlated with helmet use, not whether a helmet was capable of preventing skull fractures in some unknown number of marginal cases. You would surely not fall prey to the fallacious assumption that wearing a helmet makes no difference to the cyclist's behaviour. Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc | http://www.nohelmetlaw.org.uk/ "To every complex problem there is a solution which is simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken Newsgroup may contain nuts. |
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"Jerry J" wrote in message ... Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: So perhaps the time is right for you to post your evidence that the incidence of skull fractures is (a) significant and (b) correlated in any way with helmet use? Evidence is unnecessary - it should be obvious to you that any covering of the head will protect the skull. Argument is futile in this newsgroup which thankfully is unrepresentative of the average cyclist. |
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In article , Jerry J wrote:
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: So perhaps the time is right for you to post your evidence that the incidence of skull fractures is (a) significant and (b) correlated in any way with helmet use? Evidence is unnecessary - it should be obvious to you that any covering of the head will protect the skull. It is only obvious to those who have never bothered to think about the issue or investigate the known facts. There are at least as many reasons to believe that helmets increase the risk of brain damage as that they reduce it. And I am referring to well-researched data, too. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:51:00 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009 16:44:10 -0700, "Mike Easter" wrote: Yes. I completely concede that you personally can easily tear apart both US & UK helmets with your bare hands as you've stated. shrug. I further concede that anyone wearing a helmet automatically rides much more dangerously, and inattentively thus significantly imperiling their life and limb as others have stated. Not /much/ more dangerously, just less safely. The theory is called risk compensation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation That'll be the "research" that found: The closer a driver is to the cyclist, the greater chance of a collision. Drivers passed closer to the rider the further out into the road he was. No **** ! What a surprise. There is of course the other "research" which you quote regularly: When five school children were asked if they drove faster when wearing a helmet - they said that they did. That well known unbiased site cyclehelmets.org said : that this was the "First empirical evidence of risk compensation when cycling." Guy -- The BMA (British Medical Association) urges legislation to make the wearing of cycle helmets compulsory for both adults and children. The evidence from those countries where compulsory cycle helmet use has already been introduced is that such legislation has a beneficial effect on cycle-related deaths and head injuries. This strongly supports the case for introducing legislation in the UK. Such legislation should result in a reduction in the morbidity and mortality associated with cycling accidents. |
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Mr. Benn %%@%%.% tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us: It is not known at the moment what the exact circumstances of the accident were so it is unfair to judge what the cause was until there is more information available. But you rely on the unsupported word of a doctor that a helmet saved your mate's life? -- Dave Larrington http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk Pathetic earthlings - who will save you now? |
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On May 30, 7:16*am, "Mr. Benn" %%@%%.% wrote:
I've just taken a phone call to let me know that one of my close friends has been taken by air ambulance to a hospital in Romford. *He was in collision with a car on a roundabout in Stevenage. *The car pulled onto the roundabout without noticing my friend on his bicycle. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/nptqvefor details of the incident. Fortunately, my friend was wearing a helmet. *He is in the Acute Assessment ward being monitored after suffering head injuries. *The doctor treating him told him that he would probably be dead if he hadn't been wearing a helmet. *Apparently, his helmet now has a chunk missing out of it and is partially squashed. I cannot understand why some people still believe that it's safer *not* to wear a helmet. *Logic seems to defy some people. *Cyclists have a responsibility to themselves to so everything to avoid accidents and injury. *Wearing a helmet is probably the simplest and most effective thing to achieve this. Thanks to his helmet, my friend is likely to survive his ordeal. *At least I hope so. I can imagine your friends helmet did help prevent some superficial damage to his head and that's why I wear one mountain biking. But saving his life or preventing brain damage is not something a basic cycling helmet is capable of. The problem seems to stem from the statement 'Helmets save lives', which in itself is almost true. People take this statement and look at a standard cycling helmet and say,' it's a helmet and therefore it too must save lives' without considering whether it is actually capable of that. A motorcycle helmet is a helmet I think can save lives, a downhill full face mountain bike helmet is also a helmet I think can save lives, but a XC type lid isn't. In an effort to make a helmet light enough to wear cycling I think its ability to prevent death has gone and the original statement should be 'Some helmets save lives' and not assume the all helmets do. Best wishes and speedy recovery to your friend. |
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