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"Tom Keats" wrote in message
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Tom Sherman writes:
Tim McNamara wrote:
William Asher writes:

Henry, the cognitive dissonance is too much for me. He's all yours.

Ed Dolan manages to transcend the boudaries between being an idiot,
being a troll and being delusional; this is manifest in almost every
one of his posts. Why do you bother to engage him at all? He's a
loser who should just be ignored and then he'll go away.

I thought Ed Dolan was a lonely old coot posting to Usenet for lack of
other amusement.

That's just his schtick.

Ed's a satirist, and pretty good at it, too.

Satirists shoot high and aim low. And true
satire is a trap: ("Step into my parlour"
said the spider to the fly.)

People's impulsive, knee-jerk responses to Ed's
ridiculous statements are more ridiculous than Ed's
ridiculous statements. Tempests within teapots.

People who get upset about Ed should get a life,
or at least think about what motivates them, and
what's most worthy of their consideration. And
maybe stop taking themselves so seriously.

We all tend to take ourselves too seriously.
It doesn't hurt to be reminded of that.
I rather appreciate it, myself.

Tom Keats, a working man from the docks of Old Vancouver, is the only one
who has got me figured out to perfection. He is an Eric Hoffer in disguise.

Eric Hoffer (July 25, 1902 (or 1898) - May 21, 1983) was an American social
writer. He produced ten books and was awarded the Presidential Medal of
Freedom in February 1983 by President of the United States Ronald Reagan.
His first book, The True Believer, published in 1951, was widely recognized
as a classic, receiving critical acclaim from both scholars and laymen.[1]
This book, which he considered his best[citation needed], established his
reputation[citation needed]. He remained a successful[citation needed]
writer for most of his remaining years.

- Wikipedia

"The True Believer" is a masterpiece. It made a huge impression upon me when
I was young and full of beans. I recommend it to Tom Keats. He and Eric
Hoffer are kindred spirits.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
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Check out the Amsterdam scene the next time you are in the
Netherlands....

Normal people wearing normal clothes using bicycles for commuting,
shopping, errands, visits and other practical uses?

Amsterdam has always had a notorious underside. It had one of the largest
Red Light districts of any city in Europe. I leave the rest to your
imagination. Sexual depravity and all the other vices go together. It is my
understanding that dope (cocaine) stimulates and enhances sex, as if human
swine need that!

Saint Edward the Great would not only like to see a drug free world, but
also a sex free world. That is His idea of Paradise.

...
I suspect you and I hang out in different crowds. But even so, drinking
alcohol is sanctioned by Western societies. That is no reason for
introducing other recreational drugs. And 12 year old kids should not be
drinking anything except hot chocolate (cocoa)....

What about all the other non-alcoholic [1] fluids available for
consumption?

Well, I have always like cocoa better than any other fluids. But can you
imagine kids drinking alcohol? I never drank a drop until I got in the Navy
at age 19.

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I have never known anyone in my life who took drugs - other than alcohol
of course....

Hard to believe since Mr. Ed Dolan spent four (4) years in the USN.

The kind of guys I knew in the Navy just drank. The Navy was otherwise drug
free. This was in the 50's.

Your typical sailor from that era was interested in only 3 things - getting
drunk, getting in a fight and getting laid - and not necessarily in that
order. As you can probably figure out by now, I was NOT in my element. I
spent most of my time in base libraries reading books and wishing I was
someplace else.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Fred Fredburger" wrote in message
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Jul 22, 1:43 pm, bluezfolk wrote:

At least their not doping, and bringing discredit to the sport.

Dumbass -


Don't kid yourself.

They're just not tested because no one cares. Regardless, some of them
are doping. Doping is part of Western Culture.

Dumbass,

I did the Seattle to Portland Fredfest a couple weeks ago. I met up with
some old friends at the first rest stop and rode with them. When we
reached the halfway point, they ALL pulled out pills and started popping
them. "This prevents cramps." etc. Thankfully, I had a bee sting self
injector strapped to my seat stay. I told them it was my heroin supply and
I fit right in.

Do any group bike tour in Wisconsin and you will see dozens of bikes parked
beside every bar and saloon along the way. Some of these guys are not just
drinking beer either. How you can have shots of whiskey and then get back on
a bike and ride I have never been able to figure out. Those of us who are
not complete slobs would reserve our beers for days' end when the cycling
was over.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

In article ,
William Asher wrote:

Tim McNamara wrote in
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William Asher writes:

Henry, the cognitive dissonance is too much for me. He's all yours.

Ed Dolan manages to transcend the boudaries between being an idiot,
being a troll and being delusional; this is manifest in almost every
one of his posts. Why do you bother to engage him at all? He's a
loser who should just be ignored and then he'll go away.

Just so long as he doesn't own two guns. That wouldn't be acceptable.

I was curious though, what he would say about nicotine, since neither he
nor Henry brought it up. It's more addictive than heroin, the long-term
effects of smoking are fairly severe, and the cigarette and tobacco it
contains have been purposefully designed to be a dose-metering device for
the delivery of aerosolized free-base nicotine to the lungs (for maximum
addictivity). His answer suggests that rather than being opposed to
drugs in society per se, he just doesn't like other people having a good
time he is too scared to try. shrug

As I understand cigarettes, the point is the endorphin
rush from scorching lung tissue. Know somebody who
simply quit cigarettes after three decades with no
withdrawal. Unusual, but it happens.

--
Michael Press

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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

On Jul 24, 4:14*pm, Michael Press wrote:

Extract morphine from opium, add two acetyl groups,
ride the white horse.

I wonder how I would look riding a white pony with a monkey on my back.

Like a circus clown? No, that would be a white car.

--
Michael Press

"Michael Press" wrote in message
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Know somebody who
simply quit cigarettes after three decades with no
withdrawal. Unusual, but it happens.

I had very minimal withdrawal after 15 years of smoking but after a year I
got a really bad case of "wannasmokes". But I held it off. I finally stopped
dreaming of smoking after 20 years!

"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
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"Michael Press" wrote in message
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Know somebody who
simply quit cigarettes after three decades with no
withdrawal. Unusual, but it happens.

I had very minimal withdrawal after 15 years of smoking but after a year I
got a really bad case of "wannasmokes". But I held it off. I finally
stopped dreaming of smoking after 20 years!

I have to laugh! I too dreamed of smoking for about 20 years after I
stopped. I would wake up and think, my God, I am back to smoking!

I maintain the pleasure to be derived from smoking is very minimal. It is
mostly just a habit. I suppose there is some addiction, but it is minor
compared to the hard drugs. The trouble is that habits can be as hard to
quit as anything else.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Michael Press" wrote in message
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In article
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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

On Jul 24, 4:14 pm, Michael Press wrote:

Extract morphine from opium, add two acetyl groups,
ride the white horse.

I wonder how I would look riding a white pony with a monkey on my back.

Like a circus clown? No, that would be a white car.

--
Michael Press

The white pony and monkey are metaphors for horse (skag, smack, white lady,
etc.) and the monkey is an addiction. LOL. Some people do get it, SoTS.

gotbent aka FRVT rider


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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
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"Michael Press" wrote in message
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Know somebody who
simply quit cigarettes after three decades with no
withdrawal. Unusual, but it happens.

I had very minimal withdrawal after 15 years of smoking but after a year
I got a really bad case of "wannasmokes". But I held it off. I finally
stopped dreaming of smoking after 20 years!

I have to laugh! I too dreamed of smoking for about 20 years after I
stopped. I would wake up and think, my God, I am back to smoking!

I maintain the pleasure to be derived from smoking is very minimal. It is
mostly just a habit. I suppose there is some addiction, but it is minor
compared to the hard drugs. The trouble is that habits can be as hard to
quit as anything else.


I quit smoking at age 30. I'd been smoking for 15 years. Somehow I'd been
convinced that Mother Nature saw you through all the abuse to your
body....staying up all hours, smoking, drugs, sex, and rock and roll while
you were in the child bearing years. After that she cut you loose and let
those things have their way with you.

Ed's right about the habit part. When I was in the process of quitting I
realized there were all these absurd triggers that made me light up....I had
to have a cigarette when I got up to go to the bathroom, when the telephone
rang, before the car would start, as the final act of sex, the first thing
in the morning, etc. As it turned out there were only about three smokes a
day that I truly enjoyed. The rest were triggered by daily events.

Years after I had quit I would want a cigarette at inexplicable times that
came on me like a bolt out of the blue. I was able to laugh at the urge.

I had a good time while I was under Mother Nature's wing. And since she let
me go I've done a pretty good job of taking care of myself. It's all
working out.

"Wilson" wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
m...
"Michael Press" wrote in message
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Know somebody who
simply quit cigarettes after three decades with no
withdrawal. Unusual, but it happens.

I had very minimal withdrawal after 15 years of smoking but after a year
I got a really bad case of "wannasmokes". But I held it off. I finally
stopped dreaming of smoking after 20 years!

I have to laugh! I too dreamed of smoking for about 20 years after I
stopped. I would wake up and think, my God, I am back to smoking!

I maintain the pleasure to be derived from smoking is very minimal. It is
mostly just a habit. I suppose there is some addiction, but it is minor
compared to the hard drugs. The trouble is that habits can be as hard to
quit as anything else.


I quit smoking at age 30. I'd been smoking for 15 years. Somehow I'd
been convinced that Mother Nature saw you through all the abuse to your
body....staying up all hours, smoking, drugs, sex, and rock and roll while
you were in the child bearing years. After that she cut you loose and let
those things have their way with you.

Ed's right about the habit part. When I was in the process of quitting I
realized there were all these absurd triggers that made me light up....I
had to have a cigarette when I got up to go to the bathroom, when the
telephone rang, before the car would start, as the final act of sex, the
first thing in the morning, etc. As it turned out there were only about
three smokes a day that I truly enjoyed. The rest were triggered by daily
events.

Years after I had quit I would want a cigarette at inexplicable times that
came on me like a bolt out of the blue. I was able to laugh at the urge.

I had a good time while I was under Mother Nature's wing. And since she
let me go I've done a pretty good job of taking care of myself. It's all
working out.

I have noticed with myself and with many others that age 40 is the turning
point. Some of course began to deteriorate in their 30's, but by age 40 it
is pretty universal. You have to start taking care of yourself then or you
are doomed.

I think you are young to age 30. Then you are middle age to about 65. You
are old after that and you are damned old after age 80 from what I have been
able to see. I have never seen anyone in their 80's who did not appear frail
to me.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota