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The Kloden case...Bruynel preparing something ?...
On Jan 6, 5:52 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
wrote in message ... Hiring Kloden was a mistake for Astana. Astana and Bruyneel and can ill afford another incident. What if Kloden is another Charly Mottet who Willy Voet swore wouldn't touch drugs? That's always a distinct possibility, but like I said that was a different time when drugs was not such a big issue. Today doping is a major item in the news and sponsors are very sensitive to this. |
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On Jan 7, 6:05 am, Bob Schwartz
wrote: wrote: Today doping is a major item in the news and sponsors are very sensitive to this. Michael Ball isn't. Bob Schwartz Michael Ball...?? |
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"Bob Schwartz" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 7, 6:05 am, Bob Schwartz wrote: wrote: Today doping is a major item in the news and sponsors are very sensitive to this. Michael Ball isn't. Bob Schwartz Michael Ball...?? The guy who signed Tyler "Puerto" Hamilton and Santi "Puerto" Botero and wants to sign Oscar "Puerto" Sevilla. I wonder who Scott "Faked Lab Test" Moninger is riding for this year. Bob Schwartz Moninger retired. |
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Carl Sundquist wrote:
"Bob Schwartz" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 7, 6:05 am, Bob Schwartz wrote: wrote: Today doping is a major item in the news and sponsors are very sensitive to this. Michael Ball isn't. Bob Schwartz Michael Ball...?? The guy who signed Tyler "Puerto" Hamilton and Santi "Puerto" Botero and wants to sign Oscar "Puerto" Sevilla. I wonder who Scott "Faked Lab Test" Moninger is riding for this year. Bob Schwartz Moninger retired. So did Cipollini. |
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The Kloden case...Bruynel preparing something ?...
On Jan 7, 6:05 am, Bob Schwartz
wrote: wrote: Today doping is a major item in the news and sponsors are very sensitive to this. Michael Ball isn't. Bob Schwartz Ball's sponsorship is rather unique since he is sponsoring a team himself. But Ball will be excluded from euro continental both by UCI and by the grand tour organizers. So Ball's team be primarilly a US team. But Astana is a entirely different situation since they cater to a much wider audience. There have been a number of major corporations that have withdrawn from cycling such as Coca Cola and more recently T- mobile. But there is always a good possibility that Ball will end his sponsorship if actions of team reflect badly on his company and or if sales drop as a result. http://boulderreport.bicycling.com/ "Rock isn't eligible for wild-card invitations to some European events. "According to UCI rules, a Continental team may not race any event rated higher than 1.1 (one-day races, for example Kuurne-Brussels- Kuurne or Cholet Pays de Loire) or 2.1 (Tour of Murcia, or Vuelta Castilla y Leon). Races that Ball is said to be interested in, like the Giro d'Italia or Milan-San Remo, were ProTour events in 2007, the highest possible designation. Even if the 2008 season sees those events proceed outside the ProTour calendar, as is currently forecast, they will almost assuredly get a UCI ranking of 2.HC and 1.HC, meaning they're still off-limits to Continental teams. To gain a wildcard entry, Rock would have to be a UCI Professional Continental team, a tier above its present designation. When asked about the discrepancy, Ball replied, "I'm pretty sure we're Pro Continental. Yeah, I know we are. If not, we'll definitely lobby to make sure that's corrected and that we have the opportunity to go into some different major league races other than the Tour of California and Tour de Georgia."" |
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wrote in message
... "According to UCI rules, a Continental team may not race any event rated higher than 1.1 (one-day races, for example Kuurne-Brussels- Kuurne or Cholet Pays de Loire) or 2.1 (Tour of Murcia, or Vuelta Castilla y Leon). Races that Ball is said to be interested in, like the Giro d'Italia or Milan-San Remo, were ProTour events in 2007, the highest possible designation. Even if the 2008 season sees those events proceed outside the ProTour calendar, as is currently forecast, they will almost assuredly get a UCI ranking of 2.HC and 1.HC, meaning they're still off-limits to Continental teams. To gain a wildcard entry, Rock would have to be a UCI Professional Continental team, a tier above its present designation. When asked about the discrepancy, Ball replied, "I'm pretty sure we're Pro Continental. Yeah, I know we are. If not, we'll definitely lobby to make sure that's corrected and that we have the opportunity to go into some different major league races other than the Tour of California and Tour de Georgia."" Psst - the three major European tours have reserved the right to bring in anyone they want. Here's a real clue - Ball knows what a lot of top notch businessmen know - there's no such thing as bad publicity when you're trying to get your company name known. |
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The Kloden case...Bruynel preparing something ?...
On Jan 7, 5:39 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Here's a real clue - Ball knows what a lot of top notch businessmen know - there's no such thing as bad publicity when you're trying to get your company name known. dumbass, ball does have cash, but he is 10 ways crazy and is level jumping. he wants to go from a low-level NRC team to riding milan-san remo and the giro without doing the work in between. i don't think he gives a rats about bad publicity from his cycling team, this is a guy who brags about doing jail time and faces multiple lawsuits for assaults and something called "sextortion" and it doesn't hurt the sales of his $300 diesel jeans. he doesn't know enough about cycling, but he is a committee of one without a plan (no one on the team seems to know what is going on) and doesn't have anyone that would even know how to work the radio in the team car or how to book a room in Affligem. cycling involves a lot of failures and very little glamour and success. he doesn't sound like a guy that gives a **** about housatonic or the milk ras. how is he going to react when his entire team is 20 minutes back after the second stage of cali ? |
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The Kloden case...Bruynel preparing something ?...
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:05:51 GMT, Bob Schwartz
wrote: wrote: Today doping is a major item in the news and sponsors are very sensitive to this. Michael Ball isn't. I heard he's "into it." |
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