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Any "insulated" bottles that actually work?
Just curious if anyone's come across an insulated water bottle that
actually keeps your drink cold for more than 1/2 hour or so. I frankly see little difference between the Polar insulated bottles and a standard one (putting both to the test yet again on today's 95 degree ride, and still finding the so-called "insulated" bottle to be of little benefit). What makes it frustrating is that I accidentally discovered how easily you can accomplish the task on your own. At the '06 TdF it was quite hot for a couple of the stages, so I did my usual thing of filling the bottles mostly with ice. But because I was carrying them in a rack trunk bag, along with camera equipment, I wrapped the two bottles in paper towels (to absorb any moisture that might occur) and put the two of them into a freezer ziplock baggie. 7 hours later and there was still ice in the bottles! Extremely low-tech but effective. Of course, in the rack trunk bag, they had no stream of air around them to suck away their coldness. So perhaps there's no practical way to accomplish this with a bottle in an exposed cage; perhaps the Polar might work just as well in a rack truck bag as my unintentional version. Not that any of this would come to mind while climbing Mtn. Charlie in the Santa Cruz Mountains on the first hot day of the year... --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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Any "insulated" bottles that actually work?
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Just curious if anyone's come across an insulated water bottle that actually keeps your drink cold for more than 1/2 hour or so. Yes, but you can't buy them anymore. Look at the data at "http://www.nscl.msu.edu/~daniel/bicofa.htm" |
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Any "insulated" bottles that actually work?
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" writes: Just curious if anyone's come across an insulated water bottle that actually keeps your drink cold for more than 1/2 hour or so. I have a double-walled stainless steel Thermos[tm] bottle that's intended only for cold beverages, and it's jim-dandy. http://tinyurl.com/pyj4z5 (full URL http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...45524442625594 (preview, if you don't trust the above URLs http://preview.tinyurl.com/pyj4z5 But -- I've never tried to see if it fits in a standard bottle cage. I doubt that it would fit, as the bottle's shape is tapered from bottom to top. So I mainly use it at work (marine shipping containers get pretty hot in the summer, when the sun shines on 'em.) Maybe one of those cheap ol' bendable wire cages could be adapted to accommodate it. Or, if the bottom of the bottle does at least fit into a nice bottle cage, maybe the upper front of the cage could be padded with a number of turns of friction tape or sumpthin', to make up for the tapered shape of the bottle. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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Any "insulated" bottles that actually work?
"Phil W Lee" wrote: In theory, a bottle kept wet should help, as evaporation would cool the contents. I'm not sure how much of the capacity would get used for cooling, and how much left for the rider. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This brings back images of the Grapes of Wrath days, when canvas bags of water were hung on the front bumper, and where evaporation cooled the water. And, yes, some of the water was lost to evaporation. The water in a bottle is not lost to evaporation. If you wrap the bottle with a wet rag, only that water is lost, and then the cooling stops. My suggestion is to partially fill the bottle, and lay it on its side in the freezer. Then, when you are ready to start your ride, stand the bottle up and fill it. You will have a vertical layer of ice, so the water ( or whatever you are drinking) will be just as cold at the top as at the bottom. |
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"SMS" wrote in message
... Mike Jacoubowsky wrote: Just curious if anyone's come across an insulated water bottle that actually keeps your drink cold for more than 1/2 hour or so. Yes, but you can't buy them anymore. Look at the data at "http://www.nscl.msu.edu/~daniel/bicofa.htm" Thanks for the link. I have no doubt a thermal vacuum bottle would work; that's "technology" that's been around for ages and used in many lunchboxes. But even if there was still such a bottle that would fit in a standard bottle cage, that's not good enough for me. I would also want it to be easy to drink from, which pretty much requires squeezability. I am just so spoiled by the unintentional discovery! --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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Any "insulated" bottles that actually work?
On May 17, 10:20*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: Just curious if anyone's come across an insulated water bottle that actually keeps your drink cold for more than 1/2 hour or so. I frankly see little difference between the Polar insulated bottles and a standard one (putting both to the test yet again on today's 95 degree ride, and still finding the so-called "insulated" bottle to be of little benefit). What makes it frustrating is that I accidentally discovered how easily you can accomplish the task on your own. At the '06 TdF it was quite hot for a couple of the stages, so I did my usual thing of filling the bottles mostly with ice. But because I was carrying them in a rack trunk bag, along with camera equipment, I wrapped the two bottles in paper towels (to absorb any moisture that might occur) and put the two of them into a freezer ziplock baggie. 7 hours later and there was still ice in the bottles! Extremely low-tech but effective. Of course, in the rack trunk bag, they had no stream of air around them to suck away their coldness. So perhaps there's no practical way to accomplish this with a bottle in an exposed cage; perhaps the Polar might work just as well in a rack truck bag as my unintentional version. Not that any of this would come to mind while climbing Mtn. Charlie in the Santa Cruz Mountains on the first hot day of the year... --Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com http://www.bicyclecoffeesystems.com/ has many thermos bottles, including some non-standard bottle cages to mount them. http://www.google.com/webhp?num=100#...k+water+bottle http://www.bicycletouring101.com/BikeHydration.htm Put the water bottle in a wet sock held up by a rubber band. |
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Any "insulated" bottles that actually work?
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Just curious if anyone's come across an insulated water bottle that actually keeps your drink cold for more than 1/2 hour or so. I frankly see little difference between the Polar insulated bottles and a standard one (putting both to the test yet again on today's 95 degree ride, and still finding the so-called "insulated" bottle to be of little benefit). http://www.polarbottle.com/features/chill-factor/ Nowhere near as good as a real thermos bottle, but a lot better than a plain bottle. |
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On May 17, 8:20*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: Just curious if anyone's come across an insulated water bottle that actually keeps your drink cold for more than 1/2 hour or so. I frankly see little difference between the Polar insulated bottles and a standard one (putting both to the test yet again on today's 95 degree ride, and still finding the so-called "insulated" bottle to be of little benefit). What makes it frustrating is that I accidentally discovered how easily you can accomplish the task on your own. At the '06 TdF it was quite hot for a couple of the stages, so I did my usual thing of filling the bottles mostly with ice. But because I was carrying them in a rack trunk bag, along with camera equipment, I wrapped the two bottles in paper towels (to absorb any moisture that might occur) and put the two of them into a freezer ziplock baggie. 7 hours later and there was still ice in the bottles! Extremely low-tech but effective. I think you would have found the same if you hadn't used the paper towels. When I keep a frozen water bottle in either my handlebar bag or a trunk bag it still has plenty of ice by the end of a ride - I've used this as a mini-refrigerator for other food. But put the same bottle in an open cage and it melts very quickly. For bottles in a cage I use a sock around the outside and try to keep it a little moist. Doesn't keep it really cold but just enough below ambient to feel cool and more refreshing. |
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
I have no doubt a thermal vacuum bottle would work; that's "technology" that's been around for ages and used in many lunchboxes. But even if there was still such a bottle that would fit in a standard bottle cage, that's not good enough for me. I would also want it to be easy to drink from, which pretty much requires squeezability. Well I've had no problem drinking from the stainless steel bottles while riding, and mine fit into a standard cage (well certain models of standard cages). I guess you can't get the volume/second you can get by squeezing a plastic bottle. Since you almost certainly carry multiple bottles with you on rides in high heat, you can carry one Polar Bottle and refill it from the double-wall stainless steel bottle filled with mostly ice cubes with water in the voids. |
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Any "insulated" bottles that actually work?
(putting both to the test yet again on today's 95 degree
ride, and still finding the so-called "insulated" bottle to be of little benefit). http://www.polarbottle.com/features/chill-factor/ Nowhere near as good as a real thermos bottle, but a lot better than a plain bottle. =v= I've had much better luck with the Polar products in frozen winters than in hot California weather. I can barely abide the plasticky taste in winter, but certainly not after it's been boiled all day. :^( _Jym_ |
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