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Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered
On 25/11/2010 16:15, Mr Pounder wrote:
wrote in message ... On 25/11/2010 10:01, JMS wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:05:50 -0000, "Mrcheerful" wrote: In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was stamped by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that a 60 pound fpn can be issued. http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/ Mrcheerful Wicked "During a three-hour operation in High Street, Oxford, on Monday, November 1, 106 cycles were issued with £30 fines for riding without lights." I think this is quite unfair. The majority will have had working lights when they set off - but the batteries will have failed en-route. More likely, is that when the cyclists set off, there was no power going to their brains. -- Bod Wot brains? Mr Pounder The one in their trousers. -- Bod |
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Oxford motorists immune from crackdowns.
On 25/11/2010 08:43, Doug wrote:
On Nov 25, 8:05 am, wrote: In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was stamped by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that a 60 pound fpn can be issued.http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...ews/8672181.St... Pity the police do not conduct a similar campaign against faulty cars, probably because they are motorists themselves and therefore hate cyclists anyway, like the motorists who infest this cycling newsgroup -- . UK Radical Campaigns. http://www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. You mean like the one that's makes you take the car for a MOT test which you then have to produce the certificate to the police. -- Tony Dragon |
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Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered
On 25/11/2010 08:55, Tony Raven wrote:
wrote: In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was stamped by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that a 60 pound fpn can be issued. http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/ Mrcheerful Order them on-line and return them under the 7 day rule. Bypasses the local police and shops completely. I think Oxford students might be a tad less dim than you. Do you mean that you regard it as acceptable to subvert the rule of law in that way - or even "clever"? |
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Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered
On 25/11/2010 15:28, AlanG wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:54:33 GMT, (Cynic) wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:41:27 +0000, Sara wrote: I'd buy them. So go ahead and do so. I felt certain that such an obvious market would be filled, so I just did a 2 second search. There are entire web sites dedicated to them! Try he http://www.dynamolight.co.uk/ Retraction: No I won't! Somewhat foolishly I had £10-£15 in mind, not £60-£70. Gulp. Ah well - perhaps a note to Santa? :-) A person who does a lot of night time cycling could probably amortise the additional cost over a few months of saved batteries, and of course there is the advantage of never being stuck with a flat battery and no replacements to hand. OTOH a rechargable torch has almost the same advantages and they are a lot cheaper. Especially if you buy a hand-held torch instead of a bicycle light and gaffer-tape it to the handlebars ... I bought my daughter a set of windup LED cycle lights for about a tenner. A 1 minute wind lasts about 30 minutes. Quite enough for most journeys around town. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bike-Front-B...0698836&sr=8-2 I have something like the font light as a handtorch, it's OK as that, but only OK nowhere near as good a Maglite, but it's certainly no bike light |
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Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:35:01 +0000, Marc wrote:
On 25/11/2010 15:28, AlanG wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:54:33 GMT, (Cynic) wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:41:27 +0000, Sara wrote: I'd buy them. So go ahead and do so. I felt certain that such an obvious market would be filled, so I just did a 2 second search. There are entire web sites dedicated to them! Try he http://www.dynamolight.co.uk/ Retraction: No I won't! Somewhat foolishly I had £10-£15 in mind, not £60-£70. Gulp. Ah well - perhaps a note to Santa? :-) A person who does a lot of night time cycling could probably amortise the additional cost over a few months of saved batteries, and of course there is the advantage of never being stuck with a flat battery and no replacements to hand. OTOH a rechargable torch has almost the same advantages and they are a lot cheaper. Especially if you buy a hand-held torch instead of a bicycle light and gaffer-tape it to the handlebars ... I bought my daughter a set of windup LED cycle lights for about a tenner. A 1 minute wind lasts about 30 minutes. Quite enough for most journeys around town. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bike-Front-B...0698836&sr=8-2 I have something like the font light as a handtorch, it's OK as that, but only OK nowhere near as good a Maglite, but it's certainly no bike light It's quite adequate round town where there are street lights and the aim is more to help motorists avoid hitting you than lighting your way |
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Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered
On 25/11/2010 19:28, AlanG wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:35:01 +0000, wrote: On 25/11/2010 15:28, AlanG wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:54:33 GMT, (Cynic) wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:41:27 +0000, Sara wrote: I'd buy them. So go ahead and do so. I felt certain that such an obvious market would be filled, so I just did a 2 second search. There are entire web sites dedicated to them! Try he http://www.dynamolight.co.uk/ Retraction: No I won't! Somewhat foolishly I had £10-£15 in mind, not £60-£70. Gulp. Ah well - perhaps a note to Santa? :-) A person who does a lot of night time cycling could probably amortise the additional cost over a few months of saved batteries, and of course there is the advantage of never being stuck with a flat battery and no replacements to hand. OTOH a rechargable torch has almost the same advantages and they are a lot cheaper. Especially if you buy a hand-held torch instead of a bicycle light and gaffer-tape it to the handlebars ... I bought my daughter a set of windup LED cycle lights for about a tenner. A 1 minute wind lasts about 30 minutes. Quite enough for most journeys around town. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bike-Front-B...0698836&sr=8-2 I have something like the font light as a handtorch, it's OK as that, but only OK nowhere near as good a Maglite, but it's certainly no bike light It's quite adequate round town where there are street lights and the aim is more to help motorists avoid hitting you than lighting your way I'll take your word for it, it seem expensive for a poor light. |
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Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered
On Nov 25, 2:41*pm, Sara wrote:
In article 4cee69c4.9779046@localhost, (Cynic) wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:03:17 +0000, Sara wrote: Now we have LED lights that have a good output for far less power, and good rechargeable battery technology, ISTM that it would be a doddle to make a light that runs from a battery (and so is on all the time), but the battery is recharged from a bicycle dynamo and so never needs changing. It is such an obvious device that I would be very surprised if such a thing does not exist. *You can buy extremely cheap wind-up torches.. I'd buy them. So go ahead and do so. I felt certain that such an obvious market would be filled, so I just did a 2 second search. *There are entire web sites dedicated to them! Try he http://www.dynamolight.co.uk/ Retraction: No I won't! Somewhat foolishly I had 10- 15 in mind, not 60- 70. Gulp. -- Sara Winter in the park can be a bit of a sod. Check out the pound shop or Tesco three for the price of two at the moment (though why one would need three bike lights isn't explained) |
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Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:52:59 GMT, (Cynic) wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:03:17 +0000, Sara wrote: Now we have LED lights that have a good output for far less power, and good rechargeable battery technology, ISTM that it would be a doddle to make a light that runs from a battery (and so is on all the time), but the battery is recharged from a bicycle dynamo and so never needs changing. It is such an obvious device that I would be very surprised if such a thing does not exist. You can buy extremely cheap wind-up torches. I'd buy them. So go ahead and do so. I felt certain that such an obvious market would be filled, so I just did a 2 second search. There are entire web sites dedicated to them! Try he http://www.dynamolight.co.uk/ It's rather retrograde going back to things rubbing on the side of the wheel - lots of friction. And it loses the build-in security aspect of a fully-integrated system with a dynamo built into the wheel. -- Max Demian |
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Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered
Marc wrote:
On 25/11/2010 14:41, Sara wrote: In article4cee69c4.9779046@localhost, (Cynic) wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:03:17 +0000, Sara wrote: Now we have LED lights that have a good output for far less power, and good rechargeable battery technology, ISTM that it would be a doddle to make a light that runs from a battery (and so is on all the time), but the battery is recharged from a bicycle dynamo and so never needs changing. It is such an obvious device that I would be very surprised if such a thing does not exist. You can buy extremely cheap wind-up torches. I'd buy them. So go ahead and do so. I felt certain that such an obvious market would be filled, so I just did a 2 second search. There are entire web sites dedicated to them! Try he http://www.dynamolight.co.uk/ Retraction: No I won't! Somewhat foolishly I had £10-£15 in mind, not £60-£70. Gulp. Best £60-£70 you will spend.... I diverted on the way home , just to find a darker lane I could light up! how much kick do they have? I have found that the fenix torches work well, though the beam is fairly narrow it's very bright so for pitch black nights it allows one to see, plus the same power, keeps cars there distance as you don't get lost, and any car that cuts in too close will be in beam.... roger -- www.rogermerriman.com |
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