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  #141  
Old May 29th 20, 01:57 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wed, 27 May 2020 13:58:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2020 18:56:22 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
Bicycle related drivel:
Water bottle fail. I grabbed it, and the now brittle plastic
crumbled. My guess(tm) is it was 30 years old. Argh.
http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/slides/water%20bottle%20fail.html


Blank page. So much for bibycle related content. I updated my photo
album software from Jalbum 20.0 to the latest 20.1. I also added the
above photo. The new and improved release did some odd things and
took far too long to coplete the upload. The next morning, I
discovered that all the photos on my web pile were gone. I have
backups, but until I put the mess back together, no photos. Sorry.


The bicycle web page is back along with about 10% of the photos on my
web pile. The titles and the font sizes are still a mess. I need to
RTFM, but phone keeps ringing. About 3,500 photos or 250 MBytes. The
time burn is that I need to remove about 10,000 JAlbum specific files
and directories, leaving only the photos and titles. Then, I rebuild
the photo album and upload it in small increments through a slow 0.32
Mbits/sec DSL line. At my present rate, the rest of the site will be
fully recovered about the same time as the US economy recovers.
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/index.html

Mandatory bicycle related content:
I've been volunteered to repair a Life Fitness 95xi elliptical torture
machine tomorrow. It has pedals, cranks, handle bars, a frame, and a
saddle of sorts, so it has most of the requirements to be classified
as a bicycle.
https://www.google.com/search?q=life+fitness+95xi&tbm=isch




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  #142  
Old May 29th 20, 02:23 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 5:09:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/28/2020 6:46 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 4:02:12 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2020 14:37:04 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/28/2020 11:37 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/28/2020 10:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2020 9:38 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/27/2020 4:36 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2020 2:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/27/2020 1:43 PM, wrote:

Only someone in a financially secure position could
ignore
the pain and suffering of people whose source of income
has been cut off...

Only a person who has no friend or family infected or
seriously at risk could ignore the pain and suffering of
those with COVID.

... for no reasons whatsoever.

That's the view of a person with zero qualifications,
despite strong disagreement from qualified experts in
every
country worldwide.


It is not heartless to observe that there is no
correlation between punishment and mortality rates.

There are definitely fatal policy errors (and Mr Cuomo
made more than a few of them. He's not alone.) but
destroying lives, income, businesses, wealth, opportunity
and hope has not meant less death, just more suffering
among the living.

Again, "punishment" is a deliberately loaded word. Things
like social distancing orders and travel restrictions were
intended to protect, not punish.

And again, those measures have worked extremely well in many
places. Look how excellently Hawaii has done! Less than 20
deaths last I looked. Isn't it obvious that can only be due
to the 'stay-at-home' orders?

;-)

That is not at all obvious. New York?? Chicago??

IOW, you mean that despite attempts at protective
regulations, New York and Chicago had lots of cases.

And I mean that because of protective regulations, Hawaii,
Nevada, New Mexico, Maine, Kansas etc. did really well. They
did exceptionally well in their rural areas.

So perhaps we should look at less extreme outliers? Is there
a chance that the regulations did have significant benefit,
but that in super-dense cities other factors contributed to
super-spreading? Perhaps one factor was ignoring the
regulations?

And is there a chance that without those regulations, the
super-spreading would have been far, far worse?

That's what epidemiologists around the world seem to think.


In my county there has been widespread disregard for the
"Because I Said So" rules with almost no fatal events[1].

You could posit that we all enjoy super immune systems but
there's so far no correlation between punishment of the
citizenry and positive outcomes. Again, Japan advised her
citizens and then stopped short of destroying the society,
with good results. New York, especially NYC, tried to
micromanage life to the smallest detail with abysmal outcome.


You keep saying that but just it isn't really true. There is even a
wiki page listing the Japanese response on a practically day by day
basis.

But no, they didn't impose draconian regulations on their people they
simply told them what to do and the Japanese being Japanese did what
they were told to do. As opposed to the U.S. approach that "I'm going
to do just as I damned please no matter what you tell me to do".

There really are "different strokes for different folks".

[1]One death on 29 March in an elder care facility, none since.



"I woke up in a free country!" [as told to fascist Costco employee].
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xCJa-qltY

Say goodbye to the cheap paper towels. Its the price of liberty!

BTW, you didn't wake up in a free Costco. Try getting in without your membership card.


-- Jay Beattie.



At the diner where I take my morning coffee there's the
occasional person with a mask but those are rare. I
otherwise haven't seen them except driving, where some
people drive on the Interstate with a mask, alone in their
own car. Weird.


I don't get masks in cars either, but Costco is going full-on social distancing. I don't care. My wife forgot her mask and just pulled up her jacket for a while. You only get busted if you're an asshole, which, last time I checked, is not a protected class.

No shoes, no shirt, no mask, no service. I remember going into a place that made you wear a tie and coat to eat dinner in NYC (?) and having to borrow some greasy sport coat out of a closet and a tie. That's far more oppressive than my mask. I should have confronted the maitre d' "ah woked up in a free country!" [pushing away the greasy sport coat and tie].

The give me liberty or give me death people don't seem to understand the Constitution and the fact that Costco is not the government. And hey, at least your diner is open. It's all to-go in my county until June something.

-- Jay Beattie.




  #143  
Old May 29th 20, 02:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Radey Shouman
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AMuzi writes:

On 5/28/2020 6:46 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 4:02:12 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2020 14:37:04 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/28/2020 11:37 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/28/2020 10:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2020 9:38 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/27/2020 4:36 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2020 2:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/27/2020 1:43 PM, wrote:

Only someone in a financially secure position could
ignore
the pain and suffering of people whose source of income
has been cut off...

Only a person who has no friend or family infected or
seriously at risk could ignore the pain and suffering of
those with COVID.

... for no reasons whatsoever.

That's the view of a person with zero qualifications,
despite strong disagreement from qualified experts in
every
country worldwide.


It is not heartless to observe that there is no
correlation between punishment and mortality rates.

There are definitely fatal policy errors (and Mr Cuomo
made more than a few of them. He's not alone.) but
destroying lives, income, businesses, wealth, opportunity
and hope has not meant less death, just more suffering
among the living.

Again, "punishment" is a deliberately loaded word. Things
like social distancing orders and travel restrictions were
intended to protect, not punish.

And again, those measures have worked extremely well in many
places. Look how excellently Hawaii has done! Less than 20
deaths last I looked. Isn't it obvious that can only be due
to the 'stay-at-home' orders?

;-)

That is not at all obvious. New York?? Chicago??

IOW, you mean that despite attempts at protective
regulations, New York and Chicago had lots of cases.

And I mean that because of protective regulations, Hawaii,
Nevada, New Mexico, Maine, Kansas etc. did really well. They
did exceptionally well in their rural areas.

So perhaps we should look at less extreme outliers? Is there
a chance that the regulations did have significant benefit,
but that in super-dense cities other factors contributed to
super-spreading? Perhaps one factor was ignoring the
regulations?

And is there a chance that without those regulations, the
super-spreading would have been far, far worse?

That's what epidemiologists around the world seem to think.


In my county there has been widespread disregard for the
"Because I Said So" rules with almost no fatal events[1].

You could posit that we all enjoy super immune systems but
there's so far no correlation between punishment of the
citizenry and positive outcomes. Again, Japan advised her
citizens and then stopped short of destroying the society,
with good results. New York, especially NYC, tried to
micromanage life to the smallest detail with abysmal outcome.


You keep saying that but just it isn't really true. There is even a
wiki page listing the Japanese response on a practically day by day
basis.

But no, they didn't impose draconian regulations on their people they
simply told them what to do and the Japanese being Japanese did what
they were told to do. As opposed to the U.S. approach that "I'm going
to do just as I damned please no matter what you tell me to do".

There really are "different strokes for different folks".

[1]One death on 29 March in an elder care facility, none since.



"I woke up in a free country!" [as told to fascist Costco
employee].
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xCJa-qltY

Say goodbye to the cheap paper towels. Its the price of liberty!

BTW, you didn't wake up in a free Costco. Try getting in without
your membership card.


-- Jay Beattie.



At the diner where I take my morning coffee there's the occasional
person with a mask but those are rare. I otherwise haven't seen them
except driving, where some people drive on the Interstate with a mask,
alone in their own car. Weird.


I don't think there is a public accomodation near me that does not now
require a mask to enter. Even in live free or die New Hampshire, at
least close to the Massachusetts border. At the office we're required
to wear one unless actually at our desks (most are working from home).
  #144  
Old May 29th 20, 03:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/28/2020 8:09 PM, AMuzi wrote:

At the diner where I take my morning coffee there's the occasional
person with a mask but those are rare. I otherwise haven't seen them
except driving...


Really? I stopped in the pharmacy today and the grocery yesterday. I'd
guess 90% of the people were wearing masks.

There's this:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin...160959549.html

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  #145  
Old May 29th 20, 03:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 5/28/2020 8:32 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2020 15:40:36 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/28/2020 3:00 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
AMuzi writes:

On 5/27/2020 7:21 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2020 11:42:30 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/27/2020 11:29 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/27/2020 11:42 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 7:17:19 PM UTC-7, Jeff
Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2020 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 10:46:36 AM UTC-7, Jeff
Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2020 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I have a very low respect for doctors because so few
of them
want to be competent. Top of the list in that category
is Dr. Fauci
of the CDC who has continually acted an expert at
things he knows
very little about.

Dr Fauci has been director of the NIAID (National
Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases) since 1984. He does NOT work
for the CDC.
NIAID is part of the NIH (National Institute of
Health). He's has
been involved with controlling several previous
epidemics, which I
presume qualifies as experience:
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md-bio
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/niaid-history

Can you provide the name of someone in the US who is
better qualified
to discuss pandemics than Dr Fauci?

There is a place for those who sit around, think and
read papers.
I do not deny Fauci that much. But he is not working in
the real world
as many other epidemiologists are and they often
interview them on
FOX and they ALL say what I've been saying. There isn't
much you can
do about a pandemic with a linear growth rate.

I see. You want to be advised on how to protect yourself
from a viral
epidemic by an epidemiologist via Fox News. I don't
think that's what
you intended to say, but that's what you wrote. You also
seem to have
changed your position on Dr Fauci from:

"Dr. Fauci of the CDC(sic) who has continually acted an
expert at things he knows very little about."

to:

"I do not deny Fauci that much."

That's quite a change from calling the leading expert on
infectious
diseases in the US an incompetent, to not denying him
something you
didn't bother to specify. Of course, you're entitled to
have an
opinion about anyone and anything, but I'm also entitled
to discount
your opinion as rubbish. Anyway, kindly stabilize your
opinion about
Dr Fauci. If it's critical, please provide the name of
someone in the
US that is equally or more qualified to advise on how to
handle a
pandemic. Incidentally, I could probably provide some
names in China
that are substantially more qualified and equally
experienced, but
such experts would not be considered as candidates for
advising our
president, who knows more than any or all of them,
Here's one
candidate that might have qualified had he not resigned
for having is
bureau eliminated by the Trump administration:
"A top pandemic expert is leaving the Trump
administration amid the
coronavirus crisis"
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-pandemic-expert-leaving-the-trump-administration-amid-coronavirus-2020-5



No bicycle related content this time. Sorry(tm).

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The leading expert? Jeff, that is about the most foolish
thing that you could say. Fauci is NOT an expert. Sitting
around in hallowed halls of government does NOT make you
an expert. The epidemiologists in the field say the
opposite and that you like some sort of moron deny that
they know anything for the simple reason that they are
interviewed on FOX shows that you are nothing more than
some stupid biased punk.

Your homework, Tom:

!) Find or assemble a CV for Dr. Anthony Fauci. I say that
because you obviously know very, very little about him.

2) Find or assemble a CV for the guy you allude to whom Faux
News managed to dig up.

Analyze and compare those to prove to us that your guy with
his predictable complaints is more qualified than Fauci.

We'll even give bonus points for a little more work:

3) Give us your own CV. Show us why we should listen to your
opinions on epidemiology... and history, genetics, theology,
ballistics, human anatomy, politics, engineering, medicine,
sociology, geology, meteorology, technology, etc. You know -
all the other things about which you, as a high school
dropout, claim to be much smarter than hundreds of trained,
experienced, and recognized experts.


Fauci is probably a successful agency administrator and
political survivor who knows something but surely not
everything. Dr John Ionnidis who's no slouch in the area has
different opinions but gets no media traction:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ge-establishm/

And yet, countries that did institute a lock down, in a timely manner,
have noticeably lower cases and deaths.
(please note the phrase "timely manner")


Italy did and lost many. Japan did not and lost few.
Sweden is not out of line to her neighbors and yet still has some GDP
remaining.

There's no correlation. You can imply one as you will but it's not
clear at all that such relationship exists.

You might like this article from the Financial Times:

https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-...2-648ffde71bf0

They show excess mortality statistics for countries where they are
available, and plot versus infections per million on "lockdown day". In
the absence of a legal lockdown, they use the day when transit usage
fell to 50% of pre-pandemic levels. It's not clear to me how comparable
the "infections per million" figures are, given the wide variation of
testing capabilities over space and time.

They claim to find a correlation between early lockdown and lower excess
deaths, but their points are very widely scattered.

Spain comes off worst in excess mortality, followed by the UK, and then
Italy.

Food for thought:
https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-...2-648ffde71bf0


Regarding testing, I read a report yesterday interviewing
RNs who have tested both positive and negative on different
days, back and forth, for weeks.

I don't know but I'm reasonably certain that any conclusion
based on large population testing is inaccurate.

BTW I'm not disagreeing with you generally, just stopping
short of accepting ratios dependent on current testing.


I have read several news articles stating that some of the testing
does not give accurate results.
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...u-have-illness
https://abc7.com/covid-19-coronaviru...-core/6112137/
https://www.11alive.com/article/news...4-2297526c0cc0


Yes, as at least one of the articles stated, all lab tests give some
false positives and some false negatives. And interpreting those results
can be mathematically surprising, as the computation known as Bayes
Theorem shows. The less common the disease, the weirder the math.

This article has an example:
https://math.hmc.edu/funfacts/medica...bayes-theorem/


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  #146  
Old May 29th 20, 09:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Am 28.05.2020 um 21:44 schrieb Sepp Ruf:
that using it prophylactically is a bad idea, especially
in the combination with antibiotics: the death rate goes up significantly
compared to no treatment.* This is the main reason why "experimental"
treatments should be carefully validated before the treament turns into
a treatment for the millions.

I hope you hold the same standard to Bill the Barbarian's vaccination for
the billions.


Yes, this is why the (25+ different) vaccinations are not on the market
today. We are awaiting the results of phase-1 studies, then phase-2
studies and phase-3 studies rather than accidentially killing a billion
healthy people instead of fighting COVID.


  #147  
Old May 29th 20, 09:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Eric Pozharski
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with John B wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2020 16:44:29 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
On 5/28/2020 3:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/28/2020 11:37 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/28/2020 10:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2020 9:38 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/27/2020 4:36 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2020 2:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/27/2020 1:43 PM, wrote:


*SKIP*
It's interesting to me that I hear only about an American fringe
contingent skeptics; and that they tend to spout rationales plucked
from American right-wing media. Maybe our posters from other countries
can comment on any "resistance" groups in their countries?


Well, grouping (maybe "clustering" is better term) is what I observe for
couple of years now. It's more organized though (if I may) -- one
leader, maybe couple sub-leaders (I'm quite ignorant though, sorry --
not involved), and group of peons (or simpletons, if I may). Together
they form an echo chamber and happily re-enforce themseves. Occasionaly
peons attempt recruitment -- get either 'yeah-totally' (in fact
'yeah-whatever', but peons ignore that subtle difference) and with time
(and no effort) gather new-comers; or 'STFU-thats-not-how-it-works'
(that would be me, but I'm doing my bloody-cyclist thing here) and learn
not to try again. Leaders and sub-leaders are more time consuming --
they are obliged to work and have no option to stop.

80% lockdown (relaxing is in progress), what was and wasn't lockdowned
is complicated (not going TL;DR here) -- all education, daycare,
whatever gatherings, 95% of local public transport, all inter-city
transport; restrictions on various forms of consumer goods'
dispenseries were complicated. Easter was both hilarious and showing,
to say the least. Construction is OK but without public transport it's
strange. Central government utterly incompetent (and full of peons).
Local government -- more responsible (because people are here) and
utterly incapable (because full of peons, corruption, and central
government). It's complicated.

In essence, people just made it throught all by themselves. And now The
Lockdown is going, The Grand Opening is coming, central government is...
blah-blah-blah. It's fascinating.

*SKIP*
As an aside, color coordinated face masks are now quite the rage among
the fairer sex :-) I bought my wife several but she complained that
they didn't match her dresses :-( -- cheers,


Just now did people-watching -- totaly a thing here too.

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  #148  
Old May 29th 20, 03:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 4:17:13 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 2:32:39 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 12:36:46 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/27/2020 1:43 PM, wrote:

Only someone in a financially secure position could ignore the pain and suffering of people whose source of income has been cut off...

Only a person who has no friend or family infected or seriously at risk
could ignore the pain and suffering of those with COVID.

... for no reasons whatsoever.

That's the view of a person with zero qualifications, despite strong
disagreement from qualified experts in every country worldwide.


On a clear day you couldn't see beyond you nose.

Before ANY of the shouting is done, the CDC has already reduced the numbers of covid-19 deaths by 25%. This isn't going to stop here since other CDC studies show that the chances of someone that has covid-19 AND SYNPTOMS (only 25% of those with the disease) have a 0.05% chance of dying. It is a pity that you mind doesn't work anymore. All you have left is bitter hatred for those that point it out.


It's a pity that you don't understand disease prevention versus post hoc death statistics. Restrictions were imposed to prevent the spread of a disease with bad track record. Remember Wuhan, burial pits in Iran, Italy?

The only way you could say that the restrictions were unnecessary is: (1) define an acceptable number of sick and/or dead, and (2) know in advance the number of sick and/or dead if no restrictions were imposed, and then compare the two numbers. If we know that 250,000 will die if no restrictions are imposed, and we're O.K. with that number, then the restrictions are/were unnecessary. If we think 250,000 is too many (or whatever the best projection showed), then we impose restrictions, and try to tailor them to do the most good and least harm.

You can't impose restrictions and then claim that they were unnecessary because they worked.

-- Jay Beattie.


The real pity is that you are in total agreement that the government in the hands of the CDC's visual arm at the covid-19 briefings should pass out patently false information. I have shown you that there are no more deaths than last year at this time and you pretend that there is this killer virus on the loose that requires the destruction of the American economy to protect ourselves from. I have explained that masks and social distancing are useless inside of a building such as a grocery store which most normal people need attend and that outside it is unnecessary but you cannot understand that since you are like a trained seal and bow to authority despite their changing their stories 180 degrees over and over. That you are a fool of needs doesn't make everyone else one.
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Old May 29th 20, 04:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 5:53:40 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
(concerning lockdown)
Italy did and lost many. Japan did not and lost few.
Sweden is not out of line to her neighbors and yet still has
some GDP remaining.

There's no correlation. You can imply one as you will but
it's not clear at all that such relationship exists.


All it would take is for a similar virus to have gone though the population earlier and a larger portion of a population would be protected. But this virus already has been shown to not have any real effect.

If you have a heart problem and are expected to live less than 6 months, you contract the covid-19 or the seasonal flu and die a bit sooner, what is the cause of death?

As I have shown with the CDC death certificate counts, there are no more deaths this year that are statistically relevant than last year. If there is this deadly virus raging across the world why have we not shown increased mortality rate?
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Old May 29th 20, 04:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 6:28:55 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2020 17:52:39 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/27/2020 3:58 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2020 18:56:22 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
Bicycle related drivel:
Water bottle fail. I grabbed it, and the now brittle plastic
crumbled. My guess(tm) is it was 30 years old. Argh.
http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/slides/water%20bottle%20fail.html

Blank page. So much for bibycle related content. I updated my photo
album software from Jalbum 20.0 to the latest 20.1. I also added the
above photo. The new and improved release did some odd things and
took far too long to coplete the upload. The next morning, I
discovered that all the photos on my web pile were gone. I have
backups, but until I put the mess back together, no photos. Sorry.


I saw it yesterday.


I also saw it yesterday. It was coming out of some manner of web
cache and not directly from the 1and1.com server. Hard to tell what's
happening as Shodan shows a weird server name:
74-208-236-55.elastic-ssl.ui-r.com
https://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=74-208-236-133.elastic-ssl.ui-r.com
Anyway, when the cache flushed overnight, all my photos went with it.
I'm resisting the temptation to completely change the structure of
the web site, but suspect it will be necessary anyway.

Typical outgassed polymer failure.


Thanks. The bottom of the bottle says it's LDPE (low-density
polyethylene) and was made in 1992 (28 years old). I've seen plastic
crumble, but not quite the way this bottle decided to crumble. Google
couldn't find anything useful under "outgassed polymer failure". Could
you point me to a web page where I can read about it? I've never seen
anything crumble this badly and I'm curious as to the failure
mechanism. (If you're busy, don't bother).

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Jeff Liebermann
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Jeff, surely you're not worried about a $2 item that was long past its useful life since these things are degraded by UV light and you ride a lot in the sunshine?
 




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