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Old July 6th 08, 05:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Bob Martin
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary


Changes in stage 2 compared to stage 1

Biggest gainers by position :
+115 Romain Feillu
+55 Markus Fothen
+47 Juan Jose Oroz
+45 Angel Gomez Gomez
+43 Sebastien Chavanel
+41 Remy Di Gregorio
+41 Felix Rafael Cardenas
+40 Frederik Willems
+40 Christophe Le Mevel
+39 Jose Luis Arrieta

Biggest losers by position :
-100 Pieter Weening
-97 Rubens Bertogliati
-86 Bernhard Kohl
-81 Arnaud Coyot
-72 Mauro Facci
-71 Paolo Tiralongo
-68 Arnaud Gerard
-67 Kanstantsin Siutsou
-55 Niki Terpstra
-51 Jimmy Engoulvent
-46 Matteo Bono

Biggest gainers by time :
+0:34 Romain Feillu
+0:34 Markus Fothen

Biggest losers by time :
-7:18 Mauricio Soler
-7:18 Rubens Bertogliati
-4:52 Arnaud Coyot
-4:52 David Arroyo
-4:52 David Lopez Garcia
-4:05 Pieter Weening
-4:05 Wim Vansevenant
-3:35 Paolo Tiralongo
-3:27 Bjorn Schroder
-3:25 Jimmy Engoulvent
-3:22 Arnaud Gerard

Favourites by position :
+8 Vladimir Efimkin
+6 Jens Voigt
+5 George Hincapie
+3 Samuel Sanchez
+2 Kim Kirchen
+1 Denis Menchov
+1 Cadel Evans
-1 Stijn Devolder
-1 Oscar Pereiro
-1 Christophe Moreau
-2 Frank Schleck
-3 Manuel Beltran
-13 Carlos Sastre
-22 Damiano Cunego

Favourites by time :

Top 3 and favourites standings :
1 Alejandro Valverde 8.21.20
2 Kim Kirchen 0.01
3 Oscar Freire 0.01
.....
5 Cadel Evans 0.01
.....
9 Frank Schleck 0.01
.....
11 Oscar Pereiro 0.01
.....
16 Samuel Sanchez 0.07
.....
24 George Hincapie 0.07
25 Denis Menchov 0.07
.....
27 Carlos Sastre 0.07
28 Manuel Beltran 0.07
.....
34 Stijn Devolder 0.07
.....
39 Jens Voigt 0.07
.....
43 Damiano Cunego 0.07
.....
47 Vladimir Efimkin 0.18
.....
71 Christophe Moreau 0.39

Retirements to date : Stage
Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis 1
Total retirements : 1

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Old July 6th 08, 09:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
trek 2300
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary

On Jul 6, 11:42 am, Bob Martin wrote:
Changes in stage 2 compared to stage 1

Biggest gainers by position :
+115 Romain Feillu
+55 Markus Fothen
+47 Juan Jose Oroz
+45 Angel Gomez Gomez
+43 Sebastien Chavanel
+41 Remy Di Gregorio
+41 Felix Rafael Cardenas
+40 Frederik Willems
+40 Christophe Le Mevel
+39 Jose Luis Arrieta

Biggest losers by position :
-100 Pieter Weening
-97 Rubens Bertogliati
-86 Bernhard Kohl
-81 Arnaud Coyot
-72 Mauro Facci
-71 Paolo Tiralongo
-68 Arnaud Gerard
-67 Kanstantsin Siutsou
-55 Niki Terpstra
-51 Jimmy Engoulvent
-46 Matteo Bono

Biggest gainers by time :
+0:34 Romain Feillu
+0:34 Markus Fothen

Biggest losers by time :
-7:18 Mauricio Soler
-7:18 Rubens Bertogliati
-4:52 Arnaud Coyot
-4:52 David Arroyo
-4:52 David Lopez Garcia
-4:05 Pieter Weening
-4:05 Wim Vansevenant
-3:35 Paolo Tiralongo
-3:27 Bjorn Schroder
-3:25 Jimmy Engoulvent
-3:22 Arnaud Gerard

Favourites by position :
+8 Vladimir Efimkin
+6 Jens Voigt
+5 George Hincapie
+3 Samuel Sanchez
+2 Kim Kirchen
+1 Denis Menchov
+1 Cadel Evans
-1 Stijn Devolder
-1 Oscar Pereiro
-1 Christophe Moreau
-2 Frank Schleck
-3 Manuel Beltran
-13 Carlos Sastre
-22 Damiano Cunego

Favourites by time :

Top 3 and favourites standings :
1 Alejandro Valverde 8.21.20
2 Kim Kirchen 0.01
3 Oscar Freire 0.01
.....
5 Cadel Evans 0.01
.....
9 Frank Schleck 0.01
.....
11 Oscar Pereiro 0.01
.....
16 Samuel Sanchez 0.07
.....
24 George Hincapie 0.07
25 Denis Menchov 0.07
.....
27 Carlos Sastre 0.07
28 Manuel Beltran 0.07
.....
34 Stijn Devolder 0.07
.....
39 Jens Voigt 0.07
.....
43 Damiano Cunego 0.07
.....
47 Vladimir Efimkin 0.18
.....
71 Christophe Moreau 0.39

Retirements to date : Stage
Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis 1
Total retirements : 1


keep it up Bob !
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Old July 6th 08, 10:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
benjo maso
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary


"Bob Martin" schreef in bericht
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Changes in stage 2 compared to stage 1

Biggest gainers by position :
+115 Romain Feillu
+55 Markus Fothen
+47 Juan Jose Oroz
+45 Angel Gomez Gomez
+43 Sebastien Chavanel
+41 Remy Di Gregorio
+41 Felix Rafael Cardenas
+40 Frederik Willems
+40 Christophe Le Mevel
+39 Jose Luis Arrieta

Biggest losers by position :
-100 Pieter Weening
-97 Rubens Bertogliati
-86 Bernhard Kohl
-81 Arnaud Coyot
-72 Mauro Facci
-71 Paolo Tiralongo
-68 Arnaud Gerard
-67 Kanstantsin Siutsou
-55 Niki Terpstra
-51 Jimmy Engoulvent
-46 Matteo Bono

Biggest gainers by time :
+0:34 Romain Feillu
+0:34 Markus Fothen

Biggest losers by time :
-7:18 Mauricio Soler
-7:18 Rubens Bertogliati
-4:52 Arnaud Coyot
-4:52 David Arroyo
-4:52 David Lopez Garcia
-4:05 Pieter Weening
-4:05 Wim Vansevenant
-3:35 Paolo Tiralongo
-3:27 Bjorn Schroder
-3:25 Jimmy Engoulvent
-3:22 Arnaud Gerard

Favourites by position :
+8 Vladimir Efimkin
+6 Jens Voigt
+5 George Hincapie
+3 Samuel Sanchez
+2 Kim Kirchen
+1 Denis Menchov
+1 Cadel Evans
-1 Stijn Devolder
-1 Oscar Pereiro
-1 Christophe Moreau
-2 Frank Schleck
-3 Manuel Beltran
-13 Carlos Sastre
-22 Damiano Cunego

Favourites by time :

Top 3 and favourites standings :
1 Alejandro Valverde 8.21.20
2 Kim Kirchen 0.01
3 Oscar Freire 0.01
.....
5 Cadel Evans 0.01
.....
9 Frank Schleck 0.01
.....
11 Oscar Pereiro 0.01
.....
16 Samuel Sanchez 0.07
.....
24 George Hincapie 0.07
25 Denis Menchov 0.07
.....
27 Carlos Sastre 0.07
28 Manuel Beltran 0.07
.....
34 Stijn Devolder 0.07
.....
39 Jens Voigt 0.07
.....
43 Damiano Cunego 0.07
.....
47 Vladimir Efimkin 0.18
.....
71 Christophe Moreau 0.39

Retirements to date : Stage
Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis 1
Total retirements : 1


Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and
not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)?

Benjo

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Old July 6th 08, 11:24 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary

"Benjo Maso" wrote in message
...

Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and
not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)?


Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the race
progresses.

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Old July 6th 08, 11:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
RicodJour
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary

On Jul 6, 5:50 pm, "Benjo Maso" wrote:

Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and
not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)?

Benjo


Bob's mentioned that the favorites are his and his son's favorites,
not the betting line.

R

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Old July 6th 08, 11:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
benjo maso
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary


"RicodJour" schreef in bericht
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On Jul 6, 5:50 pm, "Benjo Maso" wrote:

Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and
not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)?

Benjo


Bob's mentioned that the favorites are his and his son's favorites,
not the betting line.


OK, I was just surprised!

Benjo

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Old July 6th 08, 11:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
benjo maso
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary


"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com schreef in bericht
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"Benjo Maso" wrote in message
...

Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites,
and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)?


Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the race
progresses.



Sure, but I suppose his list of favorites is more or less stable (of course,
I might be wrong)

Benjo

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Old July 6th 08, 11:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
William Asher
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary

Benjo Maso wrote:


"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com schreef in bericht
...
"Benjo Maso" wrote in message
...

Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be
favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's
of 2007 and 2008)?


Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the
race progresses.



Sure, but I suppose his list of favorites is more or less stable (of
course, I might be wrong)

Benjo


The list of "favorites" is determined by placing highly in ProTour races in
the previous three years. Or something like that. Anyway, it's
automatically selected and not something Bob does on a whim. He discussed
it with Chung a while back.

If you google "chung martin nice work" you should be able to turn it up.

--
Bill Asher
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Old July 6th 08, 11:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
William Asher
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary

William Asher wrote:

Benjo Maso wrote:


"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com schreef in bericht
...
"Benjo Maso" wrote in message
...

Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be
favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's
of 2007 and 2008)?

Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the
race progresses.



Sure, but I suppose his list of favorites is more or less stable (of
course, I might be wrong)

Benjo


The list of "favorites" is determined by placing highly in ProTour
races in the previous three years. Or something like that. Anyway,
it's automatically selected and not something Bob does on a whim. He
discussed it with Chung a while back.

If you google "chung martin nice work" you should be able to turn it
up.


He

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...6f30f85ec9?hl=
en

http://tinyurl.com/5jgkpd

--
Bill Asher
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Old July 7th 08, 12:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
benjo maso
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Default Tour de France, stage 2 summary


"William Asher" schreef in bericht
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William Asher wrote:

Benjo Maso wrote:


"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com schreef in bericht
...
"Benjo Maso" wrote in message
...

Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be
favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's
of 2007 and 2008)?

Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the
race progresses.


Sure, but I suppose his list of favorites is more or less stable (of
course, I might be wrong)

Benjo


The list of "favorites" is determined by placing highly in ProTour
races in the previous three years. Or something like that. Anyway,
it's automatically selected and not something Bob does on a whim. He
discussed it with Chung a while back.

If you google "chung martin nice work" you should be able to turn it
up.


He

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...6f30f85ec9?hl=
en

http://tinyurl.com/5jgkpd



Thanks! But it still surprises me that Andy Schleck and Riccò are not
included.

Benjo

 




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