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Tour de France, stage 2 summary
Changes in stage 2 compared to stage 1 Biggest gainers by position : +115 Romain Feillu +55 Markus Fothen +47 Juan Jose Oroz +45 Angel Gomez Gomez +43 Sebastien Chavanel +41 Remy Di Gregorio +41 Felix Rafael Cardenas +40 Frederik Willems +40 Christophe Le Mevel +39 Jose Luis Arrieta Biggest losers by position : -100 Pieter Weening -97 Rubens Bertogliati -86 Bernhard Kohl -81 Arnaud Coyot -72 Mauro Facci -71 Paolo Tiralongo -68 Arnaud Gerard -67 Kanstantsin Siutsou -55 Niki Terpstra -51 Jimmy Engoulvent -46 Matteo Bono Biggest gainers by time : +0:34 Romain Feillu +0:34 Markus Fothen Biggest losers by time : -7:18 Mauricio Soler -7:18 Rubens Bertogliati -4:52 Arnaud Coyot -4:52 David Arroyo -4:52 David Lopez Garcia -4:05 Pieter Weening -4:05 Wim Vansevenant -3:35 Paolo Tiralongo -3:27 Bjorn Schroder -3:25 Jimmy Engoulvent -3:22 Arnaud Gerard Favourites by position : +8 Vladimir Efimkin +6 Jens Voigt +5 George Hincapie +3 Samuel Sanchez +2 Kim Kirchen +1 Denis Menchov +1 Cadel Evans -1 Stijn Devolder -1 Oscar Pereiro -1 Christophe Moreau -2 Frank Schleck -3 Manuel Beltran -13 Carlos Sastre -22 Damiano Cunego Favourites by time : Top 3 and favourites standings : 1 Alejandro Valverde 8.21.20 2 Kim Kirchen 0.01 3 Oscar Freire 0.01 ..... 5 Cadel Evans 0.01 ..... 9 Frank Schleck 0.01 ..... 11 Oscar Pereiro 0.01 ..... 16 Samuel Sanchez 0.07 ..... 24 George Hincapie 0.07 25 Denis Menchov 0.07 ..... 27 Carlos Sastre 0.07 28 Manuel Beltran 0.07 ..... 34 Stijn Devolder 0.07 ..... 39 Jens Voigt 0.07 ..... 43 Damiano Cunego 0.07 ..... 47 Vladimir Efimkin 0.18 ..... 71 Christophe Moreau 0.39 Retirements to date : Stage Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis 1 Total retirements : 1 |
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On Jul 6, 11:42 am, Bob Martin wrote:
Changes in stage 2 compared to stage 1 Biggest gainers by position : +115 Romain Feillu +55 Markus Fothen +47 Juan Jose Oroz +45 Angel Gomez Gomez +43 Sebastien Chavanel +41 Remy Di Gregorio +41 Felix Rafael Cardenas +40 Frederik Willems +40 Christophe Le Mevel +39 Jose Luis Arrieta Biggest losers by position : -100 Pieter Weening -97 Rubens Bertogliati -86 Bernhard Kohl -81 Arnaud Coyot -72 Mauro Facci -71 Paolo Tiralongo -68 Arnaud Gerard -67 Kanstantsin Siutsou -55 Niki Terpstra -51 Jimmy Engoulvent -46 Matteo Bono Biggest gainers by time : +0:34 Romain Feillu +0:34 Markus Fothen Biggest losers by time : -7:18 Mauricio Soler -7:18 Rubens Bertogliati -4:52 Arnaud Coyot -4:52 David Arroyo -4:52 David Lopez Garcia -4:05 Pieter Weening -4:05 Wim Vansevenant -3:35 Paolo Tiralongo -3:27 Bjorn Schroder -3:25 Jimmy Engoulvent -3:22 Arnaud Gerard Favourites by position : +8 Vladimir Efimkin +6 Jens Voigt +5 George Hincapie +3 Samuel Sanchez +2 Kim Kirchen +1 Denis Menchov +1 Cadel Evans -1 Stijn Devolder -1 Oscar Pereiro -1 Christophe Moreau -2 Frank Schleck -3 Manuel Beltran -13 Carlos Sastre -22 Damiano Cunego Favourites by time : Top 3 and favourites standings : 1 Alejandro Valverde 8.21.20 2 Kim Kirchen 0.01 3 Oscar Freire 0.01 ..... 5 Cadel Evans 0.01 ..... 9 Frank Schleck 0.01 ..... 11 Oscar Pereiro 0.01 ..... 16 Samuel Sanchez 0.07 ..... 24 George Hincapie 0.07 25 Denis Menchov 0.07 ..... 27 Carlos Sastre 0.07 28 Manuel Beltran 0.07 ..... 34 Stijn Devolder 0.07 ..... 39 Jens Voigt 0.07 ..... 43 Damiano Cunego 0.07 ..... 47 Vladimir Efimkin 0.18 ..... 71 Christophe Moreau 0.39 Retirements to date : Stage Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis 1 Total retirements : 1 keep it up Bob ! |
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Tour de France, stage 2 summary
"Bob Martin" schreef in bericht om... Changes in stage 2 compared to stage 1 Biggest gainers by position : +115 Romain Feillu +55 Markus Fothen +47 Juan Jose Oroz +45 Angel Gomez Gomez +43 Sebastien Chavanel +41 Remy Di Gregorio +41 Felix Rafael Cardenas +40 Frederik Willems +40 Christophe Le Mevel +39 Jose Luis Arrieta Biggest losers by position : -100 Pieter Weening -97 Rubens Bertogliati -86 Bernhard Kohl -81 Arnaud Coyot -72 Mauro Facci -71 Paolo Tiralongo -68 Arnaud Gerard -67 Kanstantsin Siutsou -55 Niki Terpstra -51 Jimmy Engoulvent -46 Matteo Bono Biggest gainers by time : +0:34 Romain Feillu +0:34 Markus Fothen Biggest losers by time : -7:18 Mauricio Soler -7:18 Rubens Bertogliati -4:52 Arnaud Coyot -4:52 David Arroyo -4:52 David Lopez Garcia -4:05 Pieter Weening -4:05 Wim Vansevenant -3:35 Paolo Tiralongo -3:27 Bjorn Schroder -3:25 Jimmy Engoulvent -3:22 Arnaud Gerard Favourites by position : +8 Vladimir Efimkin +6 Jens Voigt +5 George Hincapie +3 Samuel Sanchez +2 Kim Kirchen +1 Denis Menchov +1 Cadel Evans -1 Stijn Devolder -1 Oscar Pereiro -1 Christophe Moreau -2 Frank Schleck -3 Manuel Beltran -13 Carlos Sastre -22 Damiano Cunego Favourites by time : Top 3 and favourites standings : 1 Alejandro Valverde 8.21.20 2 Kim Kirchen 0.01 3 Oscar Freire 0.01 ..... 5 Cadel Evans 0.01 ..... 9 Frank Schleck 0.01 ..... 11 Oscar Pereiro 0.01 ..... 16 Samuel Sanchez 0.07 ..... 24 George Hincapie 0.07 25 Denis Menchov 0.07 ..... 27 Carlos Sastre 0.07 28 Manuel Beltran 0.07 ..... 34 Stijn Devolder 0.07 ..... 39 Jens Voigt 0.07 ..... 43 Damiano Cunego 0.07 ..... 47 Vladimir Efimkin 0.18 ..... 71 Christophe Moreau 0.39 Retirements to date : Stage Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis 1 Total retirements : 1 Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)? Benjo |
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"Benjo Maso" wrote in message
... Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)? Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the race progresses. |
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On Jul 6, 5:50 pm, "Benjo Maso" wrote:
Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)? Benjo Bob's mentioned that the favorites are his and his son's favorites, not the betting line. R |
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"RicodJour" schreef in bericht ... On Jul 6, 5:50 pm, "Benjo Maso" wrote: Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)? Benjo Bob's mentioned that the favorites are his and his son's favorites, not the betting line. OK, I was just surprised! Benjo |
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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com schreef in bericht ... "Benjo Maso" wrote in message ... Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)? Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the race progresses. Sure, but I suppose his list of favorites is more or less stable (of course, I might be wrong) Benjo |
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Benjo Maso wrote:
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com schreef in bericht ... "Benjo Maso" wrote in message ... Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)? Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the race progresses. Sure, but I suppose his list of favorites is more or less stable (of course, I might be wrong) Benjo The list of "favorites" is determined by placing highly in ProTour races in the previous three years. Or something like that. Anyway, it's automatically selected and not something Bob does on a whim. He discussed it with Chung a while back. If you google "chung martin nice work" you should be able to turn it up. -- Bill Asher |
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William Asher wrote:
Benjo Maso wrote: "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com schreef in bericht ... "Benjo Maso" wrote in message ... Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)? Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the race progresses. Sure, but I suppose his list of favorites is more or less stable (of course, I might be wrong) Benjo The list of "favorites" is determined by placing highly in ProTour races in the previous three years. Or something like that. Anyway, it's automatically selected and not something Bob does on a whim. He discussed it with Chung a while back. If you google "chung martin nice work" you should be able to turn it up. He http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...6f30f85ec9?hl= en http://tinyurl.com/5jgkpd -- Bill Asher |
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"William Asher" schreef in bericht ... William Asher wrote: Benjo Maso wrote: "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com schreef in bericht ... "Benjo Maso" wrote in message ... Do you really consider riders like Hincapie or Voigt to be favourites, and not Riccò or Andy Schleck (runner up in the Giro's of 2007 and 2008)? Benjo, Bob Martin is just working the statistics which change as the race progresses. Sure, but I suppose his list of favorites is more or less stable (of course, I might be wrong) Benjo The list of "favorites" is determined by placing highly in ProTour races in the previous three years. Or something like that. Anyway, it's automatically selected and not something Bob does on a whim. He discussed it with Chung a while back. If you google "chung martin nice work" you should be able to turn it up. He http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...6f30f85ec9?hl= en http://tinyurl.com/5jgkpd Thanks! But it still surprises me that Andy Schleck and Riccò are not included. Benjo |
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