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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
On Apr 9, 7:49 am, "di" wrote:
5) What they really need is a large station wagon, but Federal laws have made it all but impossible to build those, so the next best thing is an SUV. Number 6, they might just want one.- Lions and monkeys don't want the same. Lions dream of big and pompous. Monkeys are more into practical, fun things like bikes, motorcycles and EVs. And they are beautiful, just not pompous. The only areawhere you are #1 is in ribbons... http://blogorelli.typepad.com/photos...ed/ribbons.gif |
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Don't confuse Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles with 4x4s
On Apr 9, 5:41 am, Dave Head wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:09:23 GMT, Bill wrote: So why are these people driving these lame ass SUV's? Again. People drive lame-ass SUV's because they occasionally need one and only have money enough for 1 vehicle. They occasionally need one because: 1) It snows like hell at least a few times a year, they have to drive it, and anything else they might buy has a higher chance of getting stuck in the snow. Don't confuse Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles with 4x4s. I quote here... There is often confusion as to the difference between 4X4s and SUVs. This leads to criticisms of 4X4 vehicles in the media that should actually be directed at SUVs... For example... Psychology SUV safety concerns are compounded by a perception among some consumers that SUVs are safer for their drivers than standard cars. According to G. C. Rapaille, a psychological consultant to automakers (as cited in Gladwell, 2004), many consumers feel safer in SUVs simply because their ride height makes "[their passengers] higher and dominate and look down (sic). That you can look down [on other people] is psychologically a very powerful notion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-wheel_drive So SUVs are the favorite vehicle of the wannabe Napoleons that want to feel "superior," not that of the real adventurous people like these... http://www.outback4x4challenge.com/images/20051lg.jpg |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:41:16 GMT, Dave Head wrote:
People drive lame-ass SUV's because they occasionally need one and only have money enough for 1 vehicle. They occasionally need one because: 1) It snows like hell at least a few times a year, they have to drive it, and anything else they might buy has a higher chance of getting stuck in the snow. That would explain why the most common vehicle stuck in the middle of the snow bank is a SUV. We didn't have SUVs back in the 1960s and got to work just fine in Michigan. 2) They have more than 2 kids, and at least 2 of them still require child safety seats. Put 2 child safety seats in the back seat, and you aren't putting anything else there. They need a 3rd row of seats. Well, my mid-sized car would take two child seats in the back and have room for another kid. It could carry two adults and four kids, two in child seats. 3) They need a vehicle that will haul stuff out into the suburbs, stuff from Home Depot, Lowes, etc. If it doesn't have a 4 foot by 8 foot bed, it is just like any other vehicle. Pick up drivers are probably laughing their asses off over this one. 4) They want to pull a big boat or some other trailer for recreation, and the SUV is about the only thing other than a truck that is up to the job. Some people actually buy the trucks for this, but other people don't like that either. Interestingly, most SUVs can barely carry their own weight, and that includes most of the ones you see on the road. You have to pick your SUV or pickup carefully to get one that can carry a payload. 5) What they really need is a large station wagon, but Federal laws have made it all but impossible to build those, so the next best thing is an SUV. Bull - the market is what killed the station wagon, not safety regulations. If a modern station wagon was built (arguably a Pacifica is one), it could easily be safer than a SUV - way safer. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
Dave Head wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:09:23 GMT, Bill wrote: So why are these people driving these lame ass SUV's? Again. People drive lame-ass SUV's because they occasionally need one and only have money enough for 1 vehicle. They occasionally need one because: That's the reason some people drive them. Others drive them for no good reason other than we have a thing called freedom in the US. 1) It snows like hell at least a few times a year, they have to drive it, and anything else they might buy has a higher chance of getting stuck in the snow. I had a good laugh at a few of these people last winter as I drove by them in my coupe while they were either stuck - either because they couldn't manage to control their "lame ass SUV" or because they thought their SUV was tough enough to make it through deep snow that hadn't yet been plowed and found out the hard way how "lame ass" their SUV really is. |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
"donquijote1954" wrote in message oups.com... Lions and monkeys don't want the same. Lions dream of big and pompous. Monkeys are more into practical, fun things like bikes, motorcycles and EVs. And they are beautiful, just not pompous. The only areawhere you are #1 is in ribbons... http://blogorelli.typepad.com/photos...ed/ribbons.gif This doesn't make any sense at all to me, I guess you need to explain it. But then again, not much you ever say makes much sense. |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
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Curtis L. Russell writes: 1) It snows like hell at least a few times a year, they have to drive it, and anything else they might buy has a higher chance of getting stuck in the snow. That would explain why the most common vehicle stuck in the middle of the snow bank is a SUV. We didn't have SUVs back in the 1960s and got to work just fine in Michigan. I wonder if there's a correlation between the upsurge of popularity of SUVs, and the release of the film: Dante's Peak. The SUV that starred in that flick could survive anything Hollywood threw at it. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:35:26 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" wrote:
I had a good laugh at a few of these people last winter as I drove by them in my coupe while they were either stuck - either because they couldn't manage to control their "lame ass SUV" or because they thought their SUV was tough enough to make it through deep snow that hadn't yet been plowed and found out the hard way how "lame ass" their SUV really is. Next big snow, U bring your coupe, I'll bring my Jeep Cherokee with the all terrain tires, and we'll see who gets stuck. DPH |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
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Curtis L. Russell wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:41:16 GMT, Dave Head wrote: People drive lame-ass SUV's because they occasionally need one and only have money enough for 1 vehicle. They occasionally need one because: 1) It snows like hell at least a few times a year, they have to drive it, and anything else they might buy has a higher chance of getting stuck in the snow. That would explain why the most common vehicle stuck in the middle of the snow bank is a SUV. We didn't have SUVs back in the 1960s and got to work just fine in Michigan. ROFL! I had this conversation earlier this year, when an SUV-driving, rabid modern Republican began bitching about gas prices and declaring that the government had better do something to bring the price down. (Yup. Irony abounded). She gave most of the arguments described here. I drove to work in a blizzard- twice as far as she did- in my 16 year old Volvo 240. Didn't have the slightest problem. In fact I've not had any more trouble with the Volvo in Minnesota snow than I did with my old Bronco II (although the BII *did* drive through unplowed streets after a 28" snowfall without any trouble, but that kind of thing is really rare). snip 5) What they really need is a large station wagon, but Federal laws have made it all but impossible to build those, so the next best thing is an SUV. Bull - the market is what killed the station wagon, not safety regulations. If a modern station wagon was built (arguably a Pacifica is one), it could easily be safer than a SUV - way safer. An SUV *is* a station wagon. Don't tell anyone. BTW speaking of modern station wagons: http://www.volvocars.us/models/v50/ http://www.volvocars.us/models/v70/ http://www.volvocars.us/models/xc70/ |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
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Dave Head wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:35:26 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" wrote: I had a good laugh at a few of these people last winter as I drove by them in my coupe while they were either stuck - either because they couldn't manage to control their "lame ass SUV" or because they thought their SUV was tough enough to make it through deep snow that hadn't yet been plowed and found out the hard way how "lame ass" their SUV really is. Next big snow, U bring your coupe, I'll bring my Jeep Cherokee with the all terrain tires, and we'll see who gets stuck. You just identified one of the key things: tires. Most any car will deal with snow just fine unless it's riding on unsuitable tires. |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:31:55 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article , Dave Head wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:35:26 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" wrote: I had a good laugh at a few of these people last winter as I drove by them in my coupe while they were either stuck - either because they couldn't manage to control their "lame ass SUV" or because they thought their SUV was tough enough to make it through deep snow that hadn't yet been plowed and found out the hard way how "lame ass" their SUV really is. Next big snow, U bring your coupe, I'll bring my Jeep Cherokee with the all terrain tires, and we'll see who gets stuck. You just identified one of the key things: tires. Most any car will deal with snow just fine unless it's riding on unsuitable tires. And its the main reason you can't do what the anti-SUV'ers suggest, which is to rent one when you need one. The rentals all have smooth tires, and you then get stuck anyway, 4WD or not. DPH |
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