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find you something that is just right for you. They can swap out stems and handlebars and seats (for a small upcharge usually, sometimes they'll do even trades) and get it dialled in. Mail-order shops can't do that for you. Airborne has a free stem exchange policy. They do charge if the new stem is more expensive. http://www.airborne.net/eready/janet...e/swaproad.asp |
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NYC XYZ wrote: Vis-a-vis the price, anyway -- $1,300 for 19-lb. bikes!! http://www.airborne.net/eready/janet...TI-special.asp http://www.airborne.net/eready/janet...TB-special.asp The first link is to a TITANIUM frame upright, while the second is for the Thunderbolt with an aluminum frame. Oddly enough, the aluminum bike weighs slightly less than the titanium one?? Components, I suppose -- so what do y'all think of 'em? For example...caliper brakes?? 9-speed cassette?? Which one would you get, if these were the choices? How do they compare to your current bike -- etc.? Find a good bike shop, see if the thing fits you, and then it may be a good deal. If ya buy it, take it again to a good bike shop and have hit disassembvled and reassembled correctly, particularly the wheels. |
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote: Find a good bike shop, see if the thing fits you, and then it may be a good deal. If ya buy it, take it again to a good bike shop and have hit disassembvled and reassembled correctly, particularly the wheels. I figured the thing was coming in a box, and I was going to hire this dude from the LBS to assemble it for me right (he's been trying to start a lil' side-job, apparently...how much should a guy be paid for this work, assembling a bike? Does it seem suspicious he also deals in used bikes, on the side, on his own?). |
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You must be joking. You think economically sanctioning a country will
help improve its human rights? You think the ruler rather than the regular people are going to suffer more from a poor economy? The "enemy" thing is nothing more than a fear out of ignorance. When was the last time China was of any real and actual threat to the US? How many of the claims you made were from first hand experience instead of politically motivated propaganda (you believe everything said on TV? they also say you can lose 70 pounds in a month on TV)? The human rights violation theory is way overrated. It's in many people's interests to exaggerate these things. Besides, half of the goods sold in this country are made in China. You better stop buying anything now. Gooserider wrote: Airborne is fine, if you don't mind buying a Chinese bicycle. I don't support communist dictatorships. I own three Taiwanese bikes, and an American bike. The American bike is head and shoulders above the Taiwanese quality wise, but it was far more expensive, too. I wouldn't buy the Airborne, but that's purely on an ethical level. I'm sure the quality is fine. I don't mind buying Chinese bikes, I have three of them from this manufacturer. Whether a dictatorship is communist or capitalist is all the same to me. My titanium mountain bike has taken a pounding and is still going strong. The problem with buying Chinese goods is the very real possibility that doing so supports our enemy.War with China over Taiwan is not out of the question. The Chinese have a horrible human rights record, you know. People there are routinely put in re-education camps, undergo forced sterilization, are placed in forced labor camps, and face other such horrible acts. Every dollar you spend on Chinese goods goes to strengthen them both economically and militarily. I would no more buy Chinese goods than I would buy conflict diamonds. |
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araby wrote: Are you serious? An extra 5 pounds on a rider plus bike all up weight of 230+20lb bike weight i.e.250lb is 5/250 =2%!! Just figured that it all adds up...my weekend rides can be like 50+ miles (and Jersey has a lot of hills).... Have you ever stopped to consider why these bikes are being offered at such a massive discount. There aren't any free lunches. Indeed, that's why I wanted your opinions on these two particular Airborne models being discounted. Also if you aren't familiar with -as you put it "Shimano this and Bontrager that", why are we having this discussion? I just wanted to know what folks in the know think of this Airborne sale. You really need to buy a copy of Bike 101 and read it. I don't understand your comments caliper brakes. Virtually all performance road bikes have them including ALL the TdeF iders -same thing with drop bars Sorry, but I'm not your kind of rider...never knew the difference between "wheel" and "rim" for the longest time; just didn't occur to me! I'm not trying to be rude but are you on the level Sorry, but I really haven't any idea which is why I'm here asking! -or are you trying (-successfully!)to wind us up? What is it with the Black Helicopters and New World Order?? =) Cheers Roy |
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NYC XYZ wrote:
araby wrote: Are you serious? An extra 5 pounds on a rider plus bike all up weight of 230+20lb bike weight i.e.250lb is 5/250 =2%!! Just figured that it all adds up...my weekend rides can be like 50+ miles (and Jersey has a lot of hills).... Have you ever stopped to consider why these bikes are being offered at such a massive discount. There aren't any free lunches. Indeed, that's why I wanted your opinions on these two particular Airborne models being discounted. Also if you aren't familiar with -as you put it "Shimano this and Bontrager that", why are we having this discussion? I just wanted to know what folks in the know think of this Airborne sale. You really need to buy a copy of Bike 101 and read it. I don't understand your comments caliper brakes. Virtually all performance road bikes have them including ALL the TdeF iders -same thing with drop bars Sorry, but I'm not your kind of rider...never knew the difference between "wheel" and "rim" for the longest time; just didn't occur to me! I'm not trying to be rude but are you on the level Sorry, but I really haven't any idea which is why I'm here asking! -or are you trying (-successfully!)to wind us up? What is it with the Black Helicopters and New World Order?? =) Cheers Roy This is the place that makes the Airborne frames. You can email them direct and they will answer your questions. Ask them for a price list. http://www.xacd.com.cn/ |
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NYC XYZ wrote:
{whole buncha snippage} I totally agree. Thing is, $1,200 for this bike is quite a deal! I'm sure I'll fit...I've always bought pre-built bikes, and they've never felt totally comfortable, whatever that means when it comes to bicycling. Have you ever been fit to a bike? Giving up now, BS |
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NYC XYZ wrote:
I'm thinking of the Thunderbolt Triple now, even though my first impluse was towards the titanium hybrid.... As I said 12 hours ago, "Dude, you're all over the map." Bill "OK, this time I /really/ give up!" S. |
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