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Shimano Sora group components compared to early 90's tourney
Is the Shimano Sora group comparable to the old tourney components
found on 80's and 90's road bikes? I realize that the Sora components are heavy as a boat anchor with steel chain rings etc. Are they durable and fairly low maintenance? The old ty* stuff would last 30,000+ miles with good routine maintenance, as long as you did not crash and break the plastic bits. |
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A timid poster asked:
Is the Shimano Sora group comparable to the old tourney components found on 80's and 90's road bikes? No, Sora is quite a lot nicer. I realize that the Sora components are heavy as a boat anchor Hyperbole. with steel chain rings etc. Are they durable and fairly low maintenance? Steel chainrings are very much more durable than aluminum ones, and not that much heavier. I like the Sora stuff quite a lot, though I'd tend to upgrade to a Tiagra or Deore rear derailer. The Soras are my favorite Shimano brifters, I'd use them myself if they came in a 9-speed version. Since they don't, I use Campagnolo instead. Sheldon "Sora, Sora, Sora" Brown +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Faith is believing what you know ain't so. --Mark Twain | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com |
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"Sheldon Brown" wrote in message ... A timid poster asked: Is the Shimano Sora group comparable to the old tourney components found on 80's and 90's road bikes? No, Sora is quite a lot nicer. I realize that the Sora components are heavy as a boat anchor Hyperbole. with steel chain rings etc. Are they durable and fairly low maintenance? Steel chainrings are very much more durable than aluminum ones, and not that much heavier. I like the Sora stuff quite a lot, though I'd tend to upgrade to a Tiagra or Deore rear derailer. The Soras are my favorite Shimano brifters, I'd use them myself if they came in a 9-speed version. Since they don't, I use Campagnolo instead. Sheldon "Sora, Sora, Sora" Brown I have a Sora with 17,000+ miles on it, and like it very much. The only part replaced so far was the rear der. I replaced it with a 105 rear der, and it works great. |
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Sheldon Brown wrote: The Soras are my favorite Shimano brifters, I'd use them myself if they came in a 9-speed version. Since they don't, I use Campagnolo instead. The only Sora component I dislike are the brifters. They are quite small for my medium-sized hands, the Ultegra brifters just feel right. Also the thumb shifters which do make nice crisp shifts just get in the way a lot. I move my hands around a lot on the hoods and those dang levers bump my thumbs constantly. |
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On 07 May 2005 11:19:04 EDT, justareader wrote:
Is the Shimano Sora group comparable to the old tourney components found on 80's and 90's road bikes? Better. I realize that the Sora components are heavy as a boat anchor with steel chain rings etc. Are they durable and fairly low maintenance? Bull****. This weight obsession is a bunch of advertiser and magazine writer bull****. Sora does weigh more than the higher end models, that's why it costs less. Sora is not excessively or unreasonably heavy, just heavier than something that costs twice as much. The old ty* stuff would last 30,000+ miles with good routine maintenance, as long as you did not crash and break the plastic bits. The plastic bits are tougher than they used to be. Ron |
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Sheldon Brown wrote: A timid poster asked: Is the Shimano Sora group comparable to the old tourney components found on 80's and 90's road bikes? I like the Sora stuff quite a lot, though I'd tend to upgrade to a Tiagra or Deore rear derailer. What do you see as the weakness of the Sora part there? The Soras are my favorite Shimano brifters, I'd use them myself if they came in a 9-speed version. Since they don't, I use Campagnolo instead. I'm building up a Shimagnolo race bike myself, with the Approved Combination of Shimano cassettes, cranks, BB, and front derailer mated to Veloce shifters and a rear derailer which is...from Campagnolo (wheels are boutique stuff with a Shimano-compatible freehub body). The ostensible reasons for running Veloce are rebuildability and surprisingly light weight (almost any Ergo brifter is lighter than even a Dura-Ace STI unit), but the emotional reason is that I really like the aesthetics and kinesthetics of Campy's shifters. Also, I got a smoking deal on the shifters. My current racing bike has a Sora right-hand brifter, so I have some experience with the thing. One consideration for racers is that the Sora button is virtually impossible to operate from the drops. The Campy shift button of a similar design is operable with one's thumb while in the drops (Shimano's non-Sora brifters are shiftable from the drops due to their different arrangement). Back to the aesthetics, the current Campy shifters all seem decidedly more purposeful than the Shimano stuff. Shimano's current road offerings seem to be moving towards a "fake-future" style, which is nice when it follows function (as with the funky Hollowtech II cranks) but which looks out of place on the shifters. The STI cable routing is also quite fussy, though it must be said that I have sometimes used the shifter cables as a convenient thing to rest my hands on while riding in a pseudo-TT position. -- Ryan Cousineau, http://www.wiredcola.com Verus de parvis; verus de magnis. |
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RonSonic wrote:
On 07 May 2005 11:19:04 EDT, justareader wrote: I realize that the Sora components are heavy as a boat anchor with steel chain rings etc. Are they durable and fairly low maintenance? Bull****. This weight obsession is a bunch of advertiser and magazine writer bull****. Sora does weigh more than the higher end models, that's why it costs less. Sora is not excessively or unreasonably heavy, just heavier than something that costs twice as much. A Sora double crank is over 300g heavier than a 105. That's a bunch of something. |
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Peter Cole wrote:
RonSonic wrote: On 07 May 2005 11:19:04 EDT, justareader wrote: I realize that the Sora components are heavy as a boat anchor with steel chain rings etc. Are they durable and fairly low maintenance? Bull****. This weight obsession is a bunch of advertiser and magazine writer bull****. Sora does weigh more than the higher end models, that's why it costs less. Sora is not excessively or unreasonably heavy, just heavier than something that costs twice as much. A Sora double crank is over 300g heavier than a 105. That's a bunch of something. according to my catalogues (2001, in later editions the weight isn't listed or listed as 170 grams!) 200 grams more (Tiagra 100), and 50 for the axle. Saves a lot of money for nicer tyres -- --- Marten Gerritsen INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL www.m-gineering.nl |
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m-gineering wrote:
Peter Cole wrote: A Sora double crank is over 300g heavier than a 105. That's a bunch of something. according to my catalogues (2001, in later editions the weight isn't listed or listed as 170 grams!) 200 grams more (Tiagra 100), and 50 for the axle. Saves a lot of money for nicer tyres According to on-line retailers, Sora is ~950g, 105 ~650g. I'll take the nice crank and the cheap tires, thanks. |
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Peter Cole wrote:
m-gineering wrote: Peter Cole wrote: A Sora double crank is over 300g heavier than a 105. That's a bunch of something. according to my catalogues (2001, in later editions the weight isn't listed or listed as 170 grams!) 200 grams more (Tiagra 100), and 50 for the axle. Saves a lot of money for nicer tyres According to on-line retailers, Sora is ~950g, 105 ~650g. I'll take the nice crank and the cheap tires, thanks. Customer is always right.... -- --- Marten Gerritsen INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL www.m-gineering.nl |
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