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Old September 13th 08, 12:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
SMS
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons"web site

I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for products to
include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.

Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"

This is a non-commercial, non-profit, informational site.
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Old September 13th 08, 01:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
Kristian M Zoerhoff
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons" web site

On 2008-09-12, SMS wrote:
I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for products to
include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.

Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"


I was trying to help some friends add Minoura BH-95s to their cruisers
last weekend; the plastic sleeve that holds the whole thing together
cracked when we tightened the bolt down. We returned them for some
Zefal (?) straps the resemble the Elite VIP WC9115s listed on your site
(which were the same price as the Minouras).

The shop we hit (Main St Bicycles, Carpentersville, IL) had at least
4 different gizmos to attach water bottle brackets. They also had a
nice commuter rack (70 kg load rating), so we naturally snagged that.
The owner remarked that he can't keep this stuff in stock.

--

Kristian Zoerhoff

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Old September 13th 08, 02:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles withoutBraze-Ons" web site

On Sep 13, 1:37*am, Kristian M Zoerhoff
wrote:
On 2008-09-12, SMS wrote:

I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for products to
include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.


Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"


I was trying to help some friends add Minoura BH-95s to their cruisers
last weekend; the plastic sleeve that holds the whole thing together
cracked when we tightened the bolt down. We returned them for some
Zefal (?) straps the resemble the Elite VIP WC9115s listed on your site
(which were the same price as the Minouras).


I don't know those Minoura bottle cage sockets but I have two Minoura
bar extenders and the entire design for fixing Minoura gear to the
tube is very poor, what with those pieces of metal that get crumpled
unless you cut and bend them absolutely right the first time, the
difficulty of folding the tongue back in, the virtual impossibility of
tightening the unit down properly unless you have a helper with three
hands to hold everything in place, and the certainty that sooner or
later you will split the plastic by overtightening it fixture. Not
impressed with Minoura.

Andre Jute
Gotta function before you can worry about the form.


The shop we hit (Main St Bicycles, Carpentersville, IL) had at least
4 different gizmos to attach water bottle brackets. They also had a
nice commuter rack (70 kg load rating), so we naturally snagged that.
The owner remarked that he can't keep this stuff in stock.

--

Kristian Zoerhoff


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Old September 13th 08, 02:39 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons"web site

Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
On 2008-09-12, SMS wrote:
I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for products to
include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.

Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"


I was trying to help some friends add Minoura BH-95s to their cruisers
last weekend; the plastic sleeve that holds the whole thing together
cracked when we tightened the bolt down. We returned them for some
Zefal (?) straps the resemble the Elite VIP WC9115s listed on your site
(which were the same price as the Minouras).


Hmm, I have two of the BH-95's in use and haven't had anything crack
yet. Maybe I haven't been tightening it down as much. They still can be
rotated around the steel tubing, but they don't slide up and down. I'll
add a warning about this to the site.

The Zefal straps you have to buy in the proper size, while the Elite
straps you trim off the excess.

The shop we hit (Main St Bicycles, Carpentersville, IL) had at least
4 different gizmos to attach water bottle brackets. They also had a
nice commuter rack (70 kg load rating), so we naturally snagged that.
The owner remarked that he can't keep this stuff in stock.


We have no shops in the San Francisco Bay Area that would ever dream of
carrying items like that, well none I've been to anyway. There might be
some up in the Berkeley area.

Wow, 70 kg! I've never seen a rack with a rating over 40 kg. You sure it
wasn't pounds? What model and brand was it?
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Old September 13th 08, 02:45 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles withoutBraze-Ons" web site

On Sep 12, 6:39*pm, SMS wrote:
Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
On 2008-09-12, SMS wrote:
I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for products to
include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.


Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"


I was trying to help some friends add Minoura BH-95s to their cruisers
last weekend; the plastic sleeve that holds the whole thing together
cracked when we tightened the bolt down. We returned them for some
Zefal (?) straps the resemble the Elite VIP WC9115s listed on your site
(which were the same price as the Minouras).


Hmm, I have two of the BH-95's in use and haven't had anything crack
yet. Maybe I haven't been tightening it down as much. They still can be
rotated around the steel tubing, but they don't slide up and down. I'll
add a warning about this to the site.

The Zefal straps you have to buy in the proper size, while the Elite
straps you trim off the excess.

The shop we hit (Main St Bicycles, Carpentersville, IL) had at least
4 different gizmos to attach water bottle brackets. They also had a
nice commuter rack (70 kg load rating), so we naturally snagged that.
The owner remarked that he can't keep this stuff in stock.


We have no shops in the San Francisco Bay Area that would ever dream of
carrying items like that, well none I've been to anyway. There might be
some up in the Berkeley area.

Wow, 70 kg! I've never seen a rack with a rating over 40 kg. You sure it
wasn't pounds? What model and brand was it?


Probably Axiom; they have fantastically optimistic capacity ratings.
This one claims 150kg capacity!

http://www.axiomgear.com/product/rac...uct.php?id=141

-pm
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Old September 13th 08, 03:45 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
Kristian M Zoerhoff
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons" web site

On 2008-09-13, SMS wrote:
Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
On 2008-09-12, SMS wrote:
I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for products to
include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.

Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"


I was trying to help some friends add Minoura BH-95s to their cruisers
last weekend; the plastic sleeve that holds the whole thing together
cracked when we tightened the bolt down. We returned them for some
Zefal (?) straps the resemble the Elite VIP WC9115s listed on your site
(which were the same price as the Minouras).


Hmm, I have two of the BH-95's in use and haven't had anything crack
yet. Maybe I haven't been tightening it down as much. They still can be
rotated around the steel tubing, but they don't slide up and down. I'll
add a warning about this to the site.

The Zefal straps you have to buy in the proper size, while the Elite
straps you trim off the excess.


Correct. The LBS had 3 sizes available, and made sure we grabbed the right
one.

The shop we hit (Main St Bicycles, Carpentersville, IL) had at least
4 different gizmos to attach water bottle brackets. They also had a
nice commuter rack (70 kg load rating), so we naturally snagged that.
The owner remarked that he can't keep this stuff in stock.


We have no shops in the San Francisco Bay Area that would ever dream of
carrying items like that, well none I've been to anyway. There might be
some up in the Berkeley area.

Wow, 70 kg! I've never seen a rack with a rating over 40 kg. You sure it
wasn't pounds? What model and brand was it?


Positive; I was jaws agape when I read the tag. I don't recall the brand
name now; I'll have to ping my friend to find out.

--

Kristian Zoerhoff

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Old September 13th 08, 03:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
Kristian M Zoerhoff
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons" web site

On 2008-09-13, pm wrote:
On Sep 12, 6:39*pm, SMS wrote:
Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
On 2008-09-12, SMS wrote:
I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for products to
include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.


Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"


I was trying to help some friends add Minoura BH-95s to their cruisers
last weekend; the plastic sleeve that holds the whole thing together
cracked when we tightened the bolt down. We returned them for some
Zefal (?) straps the resemble the Elite VIP WC9115s listed on your site
(which were the same price as the Minouras).


Hmm, I have two of the BH-95's in use and haven't had anything crack
yet. Maybe I haven't been tightening it down as much. They still can be
rotated around the steel tubing, but they don't slide up and down. I'll
add a warning about this to the site.

The Zefal straps you have to buy in the proper size, while the Elite
straps you trim off the excess.

The shop we hit (Main St Bicycles, Carpentersville, IL) had at least
4 different gizmos to attach water bottle brackets. They also had a
nice commuter rack (70 kg load rating), so we naturally snagged that.
The owner remarked that he can't keep this stuff in stock.


We have no shops in the San Francisco Bay Area that would ever dream of
carrying items like that, well none I've been to anyway. There might be
some up in the Berkeley area.

Wow, 70 kg! I've never seen a rack with a rating over 40 kg. You sure it
wasn't pounds? What model and brand was it?


Probably Axiom; they have fantastically optimistic capacity ratings.
This one claims 150kg capacity!

http://www.axiomgear.com/product/rac...uct.php?id=141


That's the brand, but they got this rack:

http://www.axiomgear.com/product/racks/rear_racks/product.php?id=145

I had to drill out the bottom holes 3/64" to fit the proper screws for
the bike, as the supplied screws were too small for the eyelets (we swapped
screws with the LBS once I dug the proper diameter [but wrong length] screw
out of my big bag o' parts).

I got 0 miles in that weekend, but at least I got that bike properly
kitted out for urban living.

Thanks!

--

Kristian Zoerhoff

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Old September 13th 08, 04:10 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons" web site

Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 13, 1:37 am, Kristian M Zoerhoff

wrote:
On 2008-09-12, SMS wrote:

I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for
products
to include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.


Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"


I was trying to help some friends add Minoura BH-95s to their
cruisers last weekend; the plastic sleeve that holds the whole
thing
together cracked when we tightened the bolt down. We returned
them
for some Zefal (?) straps the resemble the Elite VIP WC9115s
listed
on your site (which were the same price as the Minouras).


I don't know those Minoura bottle cage sockets but I have two
Minoura
bar extenders and the entire design for fixing Minoura gear to the
tube is very poor, what with those pieces of metal that get
crumpled
unless you cut and bend them absolutely right the first time, the
difficulty of folding the tongue back in, the virtual
impossibility of
tightening the unit down properly unless you have a helper with
three
hands to hold everything in place, and the certainty that sooner
or
later you will split the plastic by overtightening it fixture. Not
impressed with Minoura.


I agree with Andre about the Minoura bar extenders.

But when I got my new Xootr I ordered the Minoura bottle cage holder
anyway.

It uses the same inadequate apparatus. I have plenty of hose clamps
around here, and I should have just used two of those. Hose clamps
are cheaper, and have a better design.

Mike "Fooled Twice, Shame on Me" Kruger



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Old September 13th 08, 05:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Xootr? (was: Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles withoutBraze-Ons" web site)

ZBicyclist aka Mike Kruger wrote:
[...]
But when I got my new Xootr I ordered the Minoura bottle cage holder
anyway.[...]


Folding bicycle or push scooter?

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Old September 13th 08, 05:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc
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Default Update to "Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons" web site

In article ,
SMS writes:
I've gotten a bunch of e-mails lately with suggestions for products to
include on this site, and I have added them to the web site.

Adding Water Bottle Cages to Bicycles without Braze-Ons
"http://www.nordicgroup.us/cageboss/"

This is a non-commercial, non-profit, informational site.


0 4 screamin' out loud!

Zip Ties.

Ones that match your frame colour.
Zip ties now come in all kinds of colours.

stick some inner tube rubber under the
bottle cages for tensoring the zip ties,
and protecting your paint.

Inner tube rubber strips are good for all
kinds of other stuff too, besides slingshots,
and impromptu lingerie at Burning Man.

But don't listen to me.

Listen to your heart.

Always listen to your heart.

And AM news/traffic radio.


cheers,
Tom

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