Montreal tumbles to 20th (last place) from 14th in Top 20 BicycleFriendly Cities

"While Montreal is the only Canadian city to make the Top 20 annual Copenhagenize Index, they took a tumble this year falling from 14th spot in 2013, to last place."

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/new...ly-list/52311/

Cheers

Sir Ridesalot wrote:
"While Montreal is the only Canadian city to make the Top 20 annual
Copenhagenize Index, they took a tumble this year falling from 14th spot
in 2013, to last place."

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/new...ly-list/52311/

Cheers

Saw that. Mostly it's because Montreal is slow to fix things. This isn't
true just for cycling issues. Basic infrastructure reparations take longer
than they should.

--
duane

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 14:35:23 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

"While Montreal is the only Canadian city to make the Top 20 annual Copenhagenize Index, they took a tumble this year falling from 14th spot in 2013, to last place."
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/new...ly-list/52311/
Cheers

Here's the Montreal entry from the list:
http://www.wired.com/2015/06/copenhagenize-worlds-most-bike-friendly-cities/
All Montreal needs to do is impliment the vague "best practices", fix
the roads, and install traffic calming automobile obstancles in order
to move up the list.



20. Montreal

2013 Ranking: 13
The Lowdown: Montreal has long been the best North American spot for
cycling, not least because it has had protected bike lanes since the
late 1980s.

The city continues to impress, despite slipping in the rankings. A
strong gender split- unusual for North America - and stretches of
decent infrastructure with impressive numbers of cyclists using them
each day keep Montreal’s baseline firm. A great bike-share system and
consistent advocacy adds to the cocktail. Montreal is hanging on to
its spot, but it won’t take much to slip further now that so many
cities around the world have their game faces on.

Getting Better: The brilliant visions that have come out of the
Plateau borough have failed to replicate across the city at large.
Politicians need to force planners and especially engineers to improve
and to plan a network that makes sense for the next 100 years.

Again, best practice is often ignored, which is regrettable. Better
winter maintenance is a must, cycle tracks along main arteries should
be a no-brainer (especially with the shocking state of the asphalt on
the roads), and feel free to borrow traffic-calming inspiration from
Paris and Barcelona.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

is supportive just seeing a list..

here's a rare Canadian quake from my seismo blog

https://goo.gl/2SmFyt

On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 10:35:24 PM UTC+1, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
"While Montreal is the only Canadian city to make the Top 20 annual Copenhagenize Index, they took a tumble this year falling from 14th spot in 2013, to last place."

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/new...ly-list/52311/

Cheers

Still, making it in the top twenty, even last, is a great achievement.

Andre Jute

On 6/7/2015 5:35 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
"While Montreal is the only Canadian city to make the Top 20 annual Copenhagenize Index, they took a tumble this year falling from 14th spot in 2013, to last place."

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/new...ly-list/52311/

Cheers

Hmm. Seems a bike facility design & consulting firm did the rankings.

Is it really wise to pay a lot of attention to a firm that says, in
effect, "Your city doesn't do things the way we like to design them. So
we're downgrading you"?

I'd pay more attention to a source with less potential bias.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 7:07:36 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/7/2015 5:35 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
"While Montreal is the only Canadian city to make the Top 20 annual Copenhagenize Index, they took a tumble this year falling from 14th spot in 2013, to last place."

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/new...ly-list/52311/

Cheers

Hmm. Seems a bike facility design & consulting firm did the rankings.

Is it really wise to pay a lot of attention to a firm that says, in
effect, "Your city doesn't do things the way we like to design them. So
we're downgrading you"?

I'd pay more attention to a source with less potential bias.

Well, Copenhagen and the various cities in NL are remarkable because of their bicycling infrastructure -- among other things. Of course the study is going to favor cities with infrastructure -- as well as cities that are flat, and cities that are densely populated with a high percentage of people who live near where they work or go to school. Our mode-share numbers are high close to downtown but not so great when you get out in to the suburbs. I think NYC might break into the top 20 if the city knocked down a bunch of buildings to put in bicycle facilities. Maybe Boston could open the Freedom Trail to bicyclists and break in to the rankings.

-- Jay Beattie.

jbeattie wrote:
snip
Well, Copenhagen and the various cities in NL are remarkable because of
their bicycling infrastructure -- among other things. Of course the
study is going to favor cities with infrastructure -- as well as cities
that are flat, and cities that are densely populated with a high
percentage of people who live near where they work or go to school. Our
mode-share numbers are high close to downtown but not so great when you
get out in to the suburbs. I think NYC might break into the top 20 if the
city knocked down a bunch of buildings to put in bicycle facilities.
Maybe Boston could open the Freedom Trail to bicyclists and break in to the rankings.


True. But Montreal ain't exactly flat. The pro tour comes here once a
year to do several dozen loops up Mount Royal. When this occurs the
commuters have to go around the mountain.

The article talks about the Plateau and that is one area with especially
high cycling numbers. It's densely populated with lots of hip shops and
cafes. The one thing it's short of is parking.

An interesting thing around here is that the city has started clearing snow
from some of the paths. One of the points in the article is that this
needs to happen more. Cycling in Quebec winters on Montreal roads with
Montreal traffic requires a bit of nerve. Bike paths keep you out of the
way of snow plows and sliding cars. The ones where they clear the snow get
a lot of use.

--
duane

On 07/06/2015 5:52 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 14:35:23 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

"While Montreal is the only Canadian city to make the Top 20 annual Copenhagenize Index, they took a tumble this year falling from 14th spot in 2013, to last place."
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/new...ly-list/52311/
Cheers

Here's the Montreal entry from the list:
http://www.wired.com/2015/06/copenhagenize-worlds-most-bike-friendly-cities/
All Montreal needs to do is impliment the vague "best practices", fix
the roads, and install traffic calming automobile obstancles in order
to move up the list.



20. Montreal

2013 Ranking: 13
The Lowdown: Montreal has long been the best North American spot for
cycling, not least because it has had protected bike lanes since the
late 1980s.

The city continues to impress, despite slipping in the rankings. A
strong gender split- unusual for North America - and stretches of
decent infrastructure with impressive numbers of cyclists using them
each day keep Montreal’s baseline firm. A great bike-share system and
consistent advocacy adds to the cocktail. Montreal is hanging on to
its spot, but it won’t take much to slip further now that so many
cities around the world have their game faces on.

Getting Better: The brilliant visions that have come out of the
Plateau borough have failed to replicate across the city at large.
Politicians need to force planners and especially engineers to improve
and to plan a network that makes sense for the next 100 years.


My son has an apartment on the Plateau and it's definitely full of
cyclists. Partly because of the style of the area - young bohemian
student types. Partly because of the difficulty in finding a parking
place. But the Montreal boroughs are not homogenous. What works in one
may not work in another.

Again, best practice is often ignored, which is regrettable. Better
winter maintenance is a must, cycle tracks along main arteries should
be a no-brainer (especially with the shocking state of the asphalt on
the roads), and feel free to borrow traffic-calming inspiration from
Paris and Barcelona.


Personally I wouldn't mind something done about the state of the asphalt
on the roads. I'm spending a lot of money on new bike tires but also on
tie rods and rims for my car.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooo-

tie rods and rims for my car.

lower tire pressure, different roads, lower speeds, more attention and practice in jiggling the steering wheel

two foot automatic driving...steady or more throttle, jab brakes hard before hole....lifts front end.


https://www.google.com/#q=HOW+to+set...or+rough+roads