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OT-NYTimes (was: Doping...)
"Arthur Ogus" wrote in message
... Not sure what that is supposed to mean, but it's common knowledge that the Times is left-of-center. "Well-known" thanks to the relentness campaign of the right-wing. uh, no actually that's not why. Paris has something like six or seven daily newspapers, ranging from Le Figaro (which is considered conservative) to l'Humanite (Communist). Le Monde is definitely on the left of that spectrum. Meaningless nonetheless. I was talking, as was the earlier poster, about the New York Times. well if you really think the NY Times is only viewed as "left wing" because of a "right wing conspiracy" I suggest you need to adjust your medication. |
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OT-NYTimes (was: Doping...)
"Lindsay" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:18:25 -0700, Ken Prager wrote: Well known for his aggressive style of driving, Earnhardt was nicknamed the "Intimidator". It is not surprising that you have been nearly run down by fans with 3 car stickers. This type of Earnhardt fan is no doubt expressing loyalty to his fallen hero by displaying the aggressive style of driving which made Dale famous. Dale died pulling an idiot move trying to block someone who was in third place to ensure they would not come in second. Dumbass Dale owned the cars that were in 1st and 2nd place at the time. Or trying to ensure they wouldn't come in third. 1st and 2nd were way ahead (considering it was the last lap). You're right though. Dumbass move. |
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Ed-D wrote: Not sure what that is supposed to mean, but it's common knowledge that the Times is left-of-center. Yah. I heard Rush Limbaugh say so just the other day. |
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Doping -- Le Monde editorial
"Ed-D" wrote in message ... What has this to do with the content of the article? Besides the fact that it is hardly unusual for Le Monde to try to taint the achievements of Americans everywhere? Well, nothing I guess.... You think the basis for the article was anti-Americanism?? This shows that you have neither the context nor the history to evaluate the article. Perhaps this has escaped you but the French don't really consider the TdF to be an American event. The article would almost certainly have been written the same way no matter who won. Le Monde made a huge deal about the Festina affair, and the Giro doping raids, and the Rumsas affair, and even the pot belge case in Perpignan (which was an inconsequential trial connected to French *amateur* racing). For reasons that have nothing to do with anti-Americanism and everything to do with the way cycling is perceived in France by the French, and who promotes cycling in France to the French, Le Monde is anti-*cycling.* I know it's simpler to view everything that happens in the world as pro-American or anti-American and it's simpler to view everything as left-wing or right-wing but, in this instance, you've been led astray by not doing your homework, dumbass. |
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Doping -- Le Monde editorial
"Ilan Vardi" wrote in message om... Le Monde is the "intellectual" newspaper, in the sense that French society is extremely polarised: people either read Le Monde or L'Equipe but not both. I read Le Monde and L'Equipe -- but then I sort of enjoy the buzz that cognitive dissonance brings. |
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Doping -- Le Monde editorial
"trg" wrote in message ...
Le Monde has several articles recently insinuating doping with absolutely no links to back it up other than this idea that they're going so fast that they must be doping (overlooking about 20 other cumulative effects that could explain faster speeds.) It's quite tiresome. There is a similar phenomenon happening now in Track and Field in which Paula Radcliffe is now being suspected of doping due to her world records in the marathon, when she had previously been the most outspoken person against doping. There is absolutely no evidence against her, of course. -ilan |
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Ed-D wrote:
Not sure what that is supposed to mean, but it's common knowledge that the Times is left-of-center. Common knowledge among whom? Dittoheads? So you think every one of the thousands of employees at the Times takes a little liberal truth test and swears fealty to Jesse Jackson & Hillary Clinton? |
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"Jay Hill" wrote in message
. .. Common knowledge among whom? Dittoheads? So you think every one of the thousands of employees at the Times takes a little liberal truth test and swears fealty to Jesse Jackson & Hillary Clinton? So you think "every one of the thousands of employees at the Times" has anything whatsoever to say about editorial content? Consider the full political spectrum of print media in the States and the editorial bent of the NYT will indeed fall left of center. Arguing about to what extent is really not proper fodder for this NG, and besides; so what? That just degenerates into yet another variation of "I'm normal and you're not." ****, if we were normal, we'd all be doing something useful instead of reading RBR. Like watching Regis and Whoever. So - let's get back to proper RBR stuff like whether LA's a doper and whether Bobke and Kirsten were hitting it in the TDF. |
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Lindsay wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:18:25 -0700, Ken Prager wrote: Well known for his aggressive style of driving, Earnhardt was nicknamed the "Intimidator". It is not surprising that you have been nearly run down by fans with 3 car stickers. This type of Earnhardt fan is no doubt expressing loyalty to his fallen hero by displaying the aggressive style of driving which made Dale famous. Dale died pulling an idiot move trying to block someone who was in third place to ensure they would not come in second. Dumbass Dale owned the cars that were in 1st and 2nd place at the time. Dumbass Dale died. Please, here we need proper ettiquette. THe proper term is "Dumb Ass"... Lindsay ---------------------------- "One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license." P.J. O'Rourke |
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Doping -- Le Monde editorial
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
"Clovis Lark" wrote in message ... Ed-D I don't know about this either but I do know that Le Monde has numerous axes to grind with the U.S. government, U.S. private sector companies, and Americans in general. If I'm not mistaken, they were one of the main forces behind some of the allegations surrounding Lance Armstrong. What has this to do with the content of the article? The article was an editorial. As such it is almost expected to reflect the biases of the writers or the paper as a whole. The comment above is noting that the paper has certain "issues", but has no reference to the actual article. I wonder whether the poster even read it. That's why I made my comment. JT -- ******************************************* NB: reply-to address is munged Visit http://www.jt10000.com ******************************************* |
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