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goo.gl/CshRPR assuming your superior healthy is an error ... around you people are not... the 'satellite city' boom grew more high towers I assume one n 2 stories are cheaper nice photo couldn't find a view north of NYC http://mossien.com/wp-content/upload...chester_NY.jpg |
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On 11/25/2017 2:51 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, wrote: the foil joke may prevent you from arranging with/into your environment try this ... if foil was a component then why not .... ? J this is an older German architectural/psych concept: terracotta buildings are healthier than steel reinforced concrete ...a much larger off the ground scale I cannot locate current info on the net Healthier for whom? http://ascelibrary.org/doi/abs/10.1061/40482%28280%2958 -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 11/25/2017 3:05 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-11-25 12:51, wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, wrote: the foil joke may prevent you from arranging with/into your environment try this ... if foil was a component then why not .... ? J this is an older German architectural/psych concept: terracotta buildings are healthier than steel reinforced concrete ...a much larger off the ground scale I cannot locate current info on the net Steel re-enforced in most cases means some big residential highrise in a congested area. No wonder that those people are or feel less healthy. I have never understood the desire of city folk to cram together like sardines in a can. Try an intro Anthropology book some time. Before The Inter Webs, close proximity promoted exchange of ideas and specialization of effort. Still does to some extent. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 2017-11-26 07:18, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/25/2017 3:05 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-11-25 12:51, wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, wrote: the foil joke may prevent you from arranging with/into your environment try this ... if foil was a component then why not .... ? J this is an older German architectural/psych concept: terracotta buildings are healthier than steel reinforced concrete ...a much larger off the ground scale I cannot locate current info on the net Steel re-enforced in most cases means some big residential highrise in a congested area. No wonder that those people are or feel less healthy. I have never understood the desire of city folk to cram together like sardines in a can. Try an intro Anthropology book some time. Before The Inter Webs, close proximity promoted exchange of ideas and specialization of effort. Still does to some extent. It does, though specialization is not always a good thing. It results, for example, in people who can't even fix a flat. Their tool of fixing just about anything is the yellow pages. As for health, dense living results in lot of civilization diseases, higher stress levels and nowadays lung diseases because of pollution. Probably also more cancer. Just about every time I reach the top of the last hill to ride into the Sacramento Valley I see that brownish smog line and I am thankful not to have to live down there. Other times I can literally smell it. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 11/26/2017 10:07 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-11-26 07:18, AMuzi wrote: On 11/25/2017 3:05 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-11-25 12:51, wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, wrote: the foil joke may prevent you from arranging with/into your environment try this ... if foil was a component then why not .... ? J this is an older German architectural/psych concept: terracotta buildings are healthier than steel reinforced concrete ...a much larger off the ground scale I cannot locate current info on the net Steel re-enforced in most cases means some big residential highrise in a congested area. No wonder that those people are or feel less healthy. I have never understood the desire of city folk to cram together like sardines in a can. Try an intro Anthropology book some time. Before The Inter Webs, close proximity promoted exchange of ideas and specialization of effort. Still does to some extent. It does, though specialization is not always a good thing. It results, for example, in people who can't even fix a flat. Their tool of fixing just about anything is the yellow pages. As for health, dense living results in lot of civilization diseases, higher stress levels and nowadays lung diseases because of pollution. Probably also more cancer. Just about every time I reach the top of the last hill to ride into the Sacramento Valley I see that brownish smog line and I am thankful not to have to live down there. Other times I can literally smell it. This is a false dichotomy in that all of it can be true and likely is. Choice is good, neither city nor rural life being perfect and humans being by their nature a diverse lot. As regards specialization, one would prefer a world in which some high school dropout like me kept Enrico Fermi's bike in good shape leaving him more time for other thoughts and activities. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 2017-11-26 09:16, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/26/2017 10:07 AM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-11-26 07:18, AMuzi wrote: On 11/25/2017 3:05 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-11-25 12:51, wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, wrote: the foil joke may prevent you from arranging with/into your environment try this ... if foil was a component then why not .... ? J this is an older German architectural/psych concept: terracotta buildings are healthier than steel reinforced concrete ...a much larger off the ground scale I cannot locate current info on the net Steel re-enforced in most cases means some big residential highrise in a congested area. No wonder that those people are or feel less healthy. I have never understood the desire of city folk to cram together like sardines in a can. Try an intro Anthropology book some time. Before The Inter Webs, close proximity promoted exchange of ideas and specialization of effort. Still does to some extent. It does, though specialization is not always a good thing. It results, for example, in people who can't even fix a flat. Their tool of fixing just about anything is the yellow pages. As for health, dense living results in lot of civilization diseases, higher stress levels and nowadays lung diseases because of pollution. Probably also more cancer. Just about every time I reach the top of the last hill to ride into the Sacramento Valley I see that brownish smog line and I am thankful not to have to live down there. Other times I can literally smell it. This is a false dichotomy in that all of it can be true and likely is. Choice is good, neither city nor rural life being perfect and humans being by their nature a diverse lot. Though as humans we need to recognize when we are damaging our bodies and the denser the area the more that will happen. This is also why I'll never understand people who say "Away with cycle paths, bicycles belong on the road". I find that, sorry to say, stupid. Why would anyone in their right mind want to travel alongside noisy and polluting combustion engines buzzing by? All one has to do is look at the rear bumper area of passing cars and we'll notice that nearly all have a common design flaw. The exhaust is on the curb side, right into our faces. No thanks, I won't live in an area like that and prefer where I rode a couple of days ago, a nice long pristine singletrack, all afternoon. As regards specialization, one would prefer a world in which some high school dropout like me kept Enrico Fermi's bike in good shape leaving him more time for other thoughts and activities. Unless you start an airline and a spacecraft company like the other drop-out, Richard Branson :-) Nothing against specialization, I did that myself by concentrating on a section of electronic circuit design. However, we all should maintain a modicum of broader skills to help ourselves when something goes wrong instead of standing there next to our pretzeled front wheel with a blank "Oh s..t!" expression on our faces. It also helps us from being snowed in terms of "Oh, you'll need a complete new furnace, this one's thoroughly shot and we can't get parts for it anymore anyhow". -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-11-26 07:18, AMuzi wrote: On 11/25/2017 3:05 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-11-25 12:51, wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, wrote: the foil joke may prevent you from arranging with/into your environment try this ... if foil was a component then why not .... ? J this is an older German architectural/psych concept: terracotta buildings are healthier than steel reinforced concrete ...a much larger off the ground scale I cannot locate current info on the net Steel re-enforced in most cases means some big residential highrise in a congested area. No wonder that those people are or feel less healthy. I have never understood the desire of city folk to cram together like sardines in a can. Try an intro Anthropology book some time. Before The Inter Webs, close proximity promoted exchange of ideas and specialization of effort. Still does to some extent. It does, though specialization is not always a good thing. It results, for example, in people who can't even fix a flat. Their tool of fixing just about anything is the yellow pages. Fixing a flat IS specialization, particularly a tubular. Are you saying the rugged individualists in Cameron Park -- a golf community with an airstrip -- are more likely to fix their own flats than the downtrodden city dwellers in, say, Portland or Minneapolis? As for health, dense living results in lot of civilization diseases, higher stress levels and nowadays lung diseases because of pollution. Probably also more cancer. Just about every time I reach the top of the last hill to ride into the Sacramento Valley I see that brownish smog line and I am thankful not to have to live down there. Other times I can literally smell it. And yet, you're headed to Sacramento to get goods and services lacking in Cameron Park -- which is not surprising, since it was designed as a parasitic bedroom community carved out of a cow-pasture/vinyard. Rugged individualists with cars and strip malls. BTW, rural populations typically fare worse in terms of physical and mental health. https://hpi.georgetown.edu/agingsoci...ral/rural.html Also, with all the wood stove burning and automobiles in Cameron Park, you'd have smog too if the town were in a valley, like Sacramento. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 2017-11-26 09:30, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2017-11-26 07:18, AMuzi wrote: On 11/25/2017 3:05 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-11-25 12:51, wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, wrote: the foil joke may prevent you from arranging with/into your environment try this ... if foil was a component then why not .... ? J this is an older German architectural/psych concept: terracotta buildings are healthier than steel reinforced concrete ...a much larger off the ground scale I cannot locate current info on the net Steel re-enforced in most cases means some big residential highrise in a congested area. No wonder that those people are or feel less healthy. I have never understood the desire of city folk to cram together like sardines in a can. Try an intro Anthropology book some time. Before The Inter Webs, close proximity promoted exchange of ideas and specialization of effort. Still does to some extent. It does, though specialization is not always a good thing. It results, for example, in people who can't even fix a flat. Their tool of fixing just about anything is the yellow pages. Fixing a flat IS specialization, particularly a tubular. Are you saying the rugged individualists in Cameron Park -- a golf community with an airstrip -- are more likely to fix their own flats than the downtrodden city dwellers in, say, Portland or Minneapolis? Probably yes. For example, the folks in the airpark almost always have a very well equipped hangar-size garage with huge tool chests. Many also have certificates entitling them to officially repair aircraft. If you can fix a leaking tire on an aircraft you can fix it on a bicycle. As for health, dense living results in lot of civilization diseases, higher stress levels and nowadays lung diseases because of pollution. Probably also more cancer. Just about every time I reach the top of the last hill to ride into the Sacramento Valley I see that brownish smog line and I am thankful not to have to live down there. Other times I can literally smell it. And yet, you're headed to Sacramento to get goods and services lacking in Cameron Park -- which is not surprising, since it was designed as a parasitic bedroom community carved out of a cow-pasture/vinyard. Rugged individualists with cars and strip malls. No, I take my pick. Often, like two days ago, I point the MTB east and go to the Placerville area. They've got hardware stores and just about everything needed. I never ride into Sacramento for errands, if west I go to Folsom. I like to patronize their businesses because that community did and does a stellar job for cycling infrastructure. That needs to be rewarded. As long as you don't ride much past Rancho Cordova the smell of smog won't intensify too badly. Plus you are far off car traffic because it is a bikle path separated so far that all you usually see is river and nature. BTW, rural populations typically fare worse in terms of physical and mental health. https://hpi.georgetown.edu/agingsoci...ral/rural.html That is largely because of the much higher percentage of people with longterm substance abuse problems, and most of all smoking. If you live a healthy lifestyle country living is way better for you. Also, with all the wood stove burning and automobiles in Cameron Park, you'd have smog too if the town were in a valley, like Sacramento. We don't. Except on very cold days for the occasional expression censored who are too incompetent to operate a wood stove. When I worked in Rancho Cordova (Sacramento Valley) I could sometimes feel the pollution in my lungs. Coming up the Bass Lake Grade I rolled down the windows "Aaaah, finally fresh air". No that I don't have to commute anymore I get fresh air all the time. Even more of a contrast is a flight from Ireland or Scotland to Duesseldorf in Germany. I grew up there but after stepping out of the plane I still thought "Why would anyone want to live here?". -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 8:18:55 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/25/2017 3:05 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-11-25 12:51, wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, wrote: the foil joke may prevent you from arranging with/into your environment try this ... if foil was a component then why not .... ? J this is an older German architectural/psych concept: terracotta buildings are healthier than steel reinforced concrete ...a much larger off the ground scale I cannot locate current info on the net Steel re-enforced in most cases means some big residential highrise in a congested area. No wonder that those people are or feel less healthy. I have never understood the desire of city folk to cram together like sardines in a can. Try an intro Anthropology book some time. Before The Inter Webs, close proximity promoted exchange of ideas and specialization of effort. Still does to some extent. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 no longer. you are an example. Asimov ? actually Asimov is the only name to mind. many moons. Morse had a recent anniversary. real estate plus ad prestige for the tower. a walk outside is best with 1-2 I find the entire tower complex baffling as will the top 100 when the ice melts n ticks close in. ATL, distribution and redistribution nub has warehousing fling across the perimeter, cheaper real estate, surly easier access. towers may be more bike accessible. |
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