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can someody tell me how much quicker I could cycle if I upgraded my bike from a hybride Giant Cypress to a middle of the road, road bike eg Giant TCR 3. I currently only travel at about 23km/h on my rides and looking at the speeds on some of the rides around Brisbane I need to: a) buy a bike that will help me get to those 32km/h ave speeds ,b) need to pull my finger out more or c) go back to running for fittness even though I really enjoy my rides. I don't want to be a hero just someone who can ride with the pack. Would just like an approximate difference just to see where I'm at. Thanks Brad |
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Brad wrote:
Hi can someody tell me how much quicker I could cycle if I upgraded my bike from a hybride Giant Cypress to a middle of the road, road bike eg Giant TCR 3. I currently only travel at about 23km/h on my rides and looking at the speeds on some of the rides around Brisbane I need to: a) buy a bike that will help me get to those 32km/h ave speeds ,b) need to pull my finger out more or c) go back to running for fittness even though I really enjoy my rides. I don't want to be a hero just someone who can ride with the pack. Would just like an approximate difference just to see where I'm at. Thanks Brad I reckon my road bike is only a couple of kmh faster than the MTB (and my MTB is a piece of crap), but the biggest difference is that beign the better part of 10kg lighter the roadie is better up hills and on longer rides. I thought a roadie would make me faster, and then thought a decent roadie would make me faster but both times I think I would have been better off just training more if the sole aim was to go faster. The biggest difference they made was I enjoyed riding more. Anyone who thinks you need a road bike to keep up with a group ride needs to check out TimC on the purple and orange monstrosity, sat comfortably in the group on the flat and left me for dead on the climbs. The secret appears to be ride more, not ride more expensively. DaveB |
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Brad Wrote: Hi can someody tell me how much quicker I could cycle if I upgraded m bike from a hybride Giant Cypress to a middle of the road, road bike e Giant TCR 3. I currently only travel at about 23km/h on my rides and looking at the speeds on some of the rides around Brisbane I need to: a) buy a bik that will help me get to those 32km/h ave speeds ,b) need to pull my finge out more or c) go back to running for fittness even though I really enjo my rides. no idea about a Cypress but I average about 22k on my commute on m "hybrid", 88 steel road frame & bars, cantis, MTB triple & cluster velocity dyads with 32mm tires and rack+bag. On the OCR0, my bunch averages about 30 for a marginally hilly 1hou loop. I started with SPDs, now KeOs. Single sided pedals take some time t get used to. Simply riding with a bunch raises your speed too -- aeek |
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"Brad" wrote in message ... Hi can someody tell me how much quicker I could cycle if I upgraded my bike from a hybride Giant Cypress to a middle of the road, road bike eg Giant TCR 3. I currently only travel at about 23km/h on my rides and looking at the speeds on some of the rides around Brisbane I need to: a) buy a bike that will help me get to those 32km/h ave speeds ,b) need to pull my finger out more or c) go back to running for fittness even though I really enjoy my rides. I don't want to be a hero just someone who can ride with the pack. Would just like an approximate difference just to see where I'm at. Ride more, ride up more hills. This will make a more significant difference to your speed and stamina. And save you some dollars. Of course get a cool bike if you really want it. It brings to mind my friend Roger who only began cycling in his early 40s. A few years later, when he broke his forearm real bad in a penny farthing stack, he found the only bike he could ride easily was his daughter's single speed lady's frame. He rode this on one of the early Around the Bay in a Day rides - 210 km. Most of the time the roadies in the peletons were totally stumped as he came up to do his turn down the Prince's Hwy. He did the whole ride in a good time. Keep cycling Cheers Peter |
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DaveB Wrote: Brad wrote H can someody tell me how much quicker I could cycle if I upgraded m bik from a hybride Giant Cypress to a middle of the road, road bike e Giant TC 3 I currently only travel at about 23km/h on my rides and looking a th speeds on some of the rides around Brisbane I need to: a) buy a bik tha will help me get to those 32km/h ave speeds ,b) need to pull m finger ou more or c) go back to running for fittness even though I really enjo m rides I don't want to be a hero just someone who can ride with the pack Would just like an approximate difference just to see where I'm at Thank Bra I reckon my road bike is only a couple of kmh faster than the MTB (an my MTB is a piece of crap), but the biggest difference is that beig th better part of 10kg lighter the roadie is better up hills and on longe rides. I thought a roadie would make me faster, and then thought decent roadie would make me faster but both times I think I would hav been better off just training more if the sole aim was to go faster Th biggest difference they made was I enjoyed riding more Anyone who thinks you need a road bike to keep up with a group rid needs to check out TimC on the purple and orange monstrosity, sa comfortably in the group on the flat and left me for dead on th climbs The secret appears to be ride more, not ride more expensively DaveB Oh dear, a fit nerd. They're rather scary, but I think perhaps I no know why I haven't been out to BR yet. You let people riding thos unmentionables beat you up climbs. He's obviously just taking the **** Sort out a strategy to a): Get him to ride a less shameful bike b): blo him into the weeds. There's a hundred years of Italian tradition a stake, man! M "Mt Macedon for me, it's not quite greenwedge commuterland (yet)" -- mfhor |
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Peter Signorini Wrote: "Brad" wrote in messag .. H can someody tell me how much quicker I could cycle if I upgraded m bik from a hybride Giant Cypress to a middle of the road, road bike e Gian TC 3 I currently only travel at about 23km/h on my rides and looking a th speeds on some of the rides around Brisbane I need to: a) buy a bik tha will help me get to those 32km/h ave speeds ,b) need to pull m finger ou more or c) go back to running for fittness even though I really enjo m rides I don't want to be a hero just someone who can ride with the pack Would just like an approximate difference just to see where I'm at Ride more, ride up more hills. This will make a more significan differenc to your speed and stamina. And save you some dollars. Of course get coo bike if you really want it It brings to mind my friend Roger who only began cycling in his earl 40s. few years later, when he broke his forearm real bad in a penny farthin stack, he found the only bike he could ride easily was his daughter' singl speed lady's frame. He rode this on one of the early Around the Bay i a Da rides - 210 km. Most of the time the roadies in the peletons wer totall stumped as he came up to do his turn down the Prince's Hwy. He did th whol ride in a good time Keep cyclin Cheer Peter That would be Roger Petersen, late of MRBTC? Small world . . . I had to sneer at him LOTS to make him give up th Dunlop Volleys, but all in a good cause . . . Now he rides a Birdy . . oh, the shame . . . M"ex-'tourist'" -- mfhor |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:44:18 GMT, Brad wrote:
can someody tell me how much quicker I could cycle if I upgraded my bike from a hybride Giant Cypress to a middle of the road, road bike eg Giant TCR 3. It depends on whether you're talking about flats or hills, and how you have your current bike set up. On the flat the lower rolling resistance of narrow road tyres and your more aerodynamic position on a road bike will help, but you may already be using fairly narrow, smooth tyres and a fairly low position. Mostly likely position will make the big difference here. On hills the lower weight of a road bike (inversely proportional to price!) is the important factor. I currently only travel at about 23km/h on my rides and looking at the speeds on some of the rides around Brisbane I need to: a) buy a bike that will help me get to those 32km/h ave speeds ,b) need to pull my finger out more or c) go back to running for fittness even though I really enjoy my rides. I don't want to be a hero just someone who can ride with the pack. Would just like an approximate difference just to see where I'm at. If your aim is to ride on the flat with groups at 32km/h, you shouldn't need anything very fancy in a road bike - plenty of hybrid and MTB riders can manage that sort of speed in a group. If you want to keep up in the hills, spend some more to get a lighter one if there's not much scope for weight loss in the engine :-) The main thing is not to get discouraged by going out with groups that are far too quick - there should be slower group rides in your area that can help you develop group skills while you get fitter for the faster groups. -- bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo |
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"mfhor" wrote in message ... That would be Roger Petersen, late of MRBTC? One and the same. He now rides with MBTC. See him on the website banner at www.mbtc.org.au. Small world . . . I had to sneer at him LOTS to make him give up the Dunlop Volleys, but all in a good cause . . . Now he rides a Birdy . . oh, the shame . . . Yes, I've tried to convince him to go clipless, to no avail. Roger is a committed Luddite, except when he sees a real use for something new ie. the Birdy. He's now back on the tourer as the Birdy has cracked up a couple of times under the load M"ex-'tourist'"H Come along to the MBTC meeting one day to check out the activities - every Thursday 8.00pm, at Trades Hall 1st floor, follow the MBTC logo signs. Always a guest speaker, slides or informative presentation, and the bar's just down the corridor. And we also do MTB rides (aahh, maybe I shouldn't mention that in the light of recent MTBO events), Audax, winery visits, you name it. Cheers Peter -- mfhor |
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Brad wrote: can someody tell me how much quicker I could cycle if I upgraded my bike from a hybride Giant Cypress to a middle of the road, road bike eg Giant TCR 3. I'm afraid to get that sort of speed increase, you'll have to g Italian. You see, the speed increase is proportional to the invers square of the money you blow on the bike, as shown in the followin chart: Bike cost: Speed: $500 23km/h $1000 25km/h $2000 27km/h $4000 29km/h $8000 31km/h So you're looking to spend _at least_ $10K to get up to a 32km/ average speed, and the only way to do that is to go all Italian. Onl the Italians know how to really gouge when it comes to bikes. Now some people on here might try to tell you that it's not about th bike. They're only doing so to prevent you from going faster tha them. Sure, they might ride an old clunker on their Sunday mornin ride and blow everyone else away, but the real truth is that they'v got half a dozen ultra-expensive bikes hidden in the shed at home. Oh, and make sure there are no more than a dozen spokes in each wheel. Getting wheels with more spokes than this only means they don't break a often, so you shell out less dough in the long run, and hence don't g as fast. Regards, Suzy (tongue firmly in cheek -- suzyj |
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Peter Signorini Wrote: "mfhor" wrote in messag .. That would be Roger Petersen, late of MRBTC One and the same. He now rides with MBTC. See him on the website banne a www.mbtc.org.au Small world . . . I had to sneer at him LOTS to make him give up th Dunlop Volleys, but all in a good cause . . . Now he rides a Bird . oh, the shame . . Yes, I've tried to convince him to go clipless, to no avail. Roger is committed Luddite, except when he sees a real use for something new ie th Birdy. He's now back on the tourer as the Birdy has cracked up a coupl o times under the loa M"ex-'tourist'" Come along to the MBTC meeting one day to check out the activities ever Thursday 8.00pm, at Trades Hall 1st floor, follow the MBTC logo signs Always a guest speaker, slides or informative presentation, and th bar' just down the corridor. And we also do MTB rides (aahh, maybe shouldn' mention that in the light of recent MTBO events), Audax, winery visits yo name it Cheer Pete - mfho I recently "in the last few months" made a significant upgrade, afte spending a few years on my Monza, I went to a Carbon Fibre road bike because I plan to do some serious kilometres this year for Half Ironma training (sorry triathlon speak) I went with if for the smoother/easie ride, every ride now I feel 100% fresher than I did on my beginning t detoriate badly Monza, but that was the main reason, yes it is "heaps lighter for the hills and I have noticed the difference incredibly! it almost feels like the bike is rolling "up" the hilll unlike the ol bike which wanted to roll down the hill I have also noticed I can reach higher speeds on a sprint on the ne bike and can maintan a higher speed on the new bike for equivalen effort on the old bike, but I made a quite significant upgrade and it all been worth it BONUS SIDE EFFECTS of new bike; - 3-4 km/h cruising speed increase - able to obtain higher sprint speeds - I have increased fitness (more riding at higher levels) that was what "I" got out of it.. -- MikeyO Live in Melbourne, soon to be married, 33, 6', 76 kgs, enjoy bein active, whenever possible in any form. |
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