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In Japan, they have secure bike parking at many train
stations, often with an attendant. Not that a bike would be stolen or vandalized in Japan anyway... =v= Maybe they're headed for the Dutch model? One of the better ideas to come along in awhile is Bikestation: http://bikestation.org/ =v= Wow, what timing, we both posted the same thing. (I like my new Subject: title better, though.) :^) =v= To really work well, bikestations need to be at more stations, and taken seriously. The Bay Area only has 3, and only 2 of those are even on the same rail system. So for the most part they're only an option if you live or work within biking distance of a bikestation and within walking distance of a rail station. =v= Even worse, they've shut down the Palo Alto bikestation temporarily (during renovations) immediately after deploying an express train service that squeezes bicyclists out. So right now, when bike parking is most needed, it's taken away. This is horrible planning all around. _Jym_ |
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In Japan, they have secure bike parking at many train
stations, often with an attendant. We have bike lockers at the park/rides and transit stations. The only problem is the length of the waiting list to get one. On our local bike commuter board I've seen a couple of triumphant posts when someone finally gets one. You can see a picture he http://transit.metrokc.gov/tops/bike/lockers.html One of the better ideas to come along in awhile is Bikestation: http://bikestation.org/ I came to our bikestation one fine morning before work when I had a minor mechanical, but it was closed, despite the fact that it is supposed to open at 7:00 AM. I was sorely disappointed. The wrench who works there is awesome, though, when he shows up. -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply Home of the meditative cyclist: http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky |
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Matt O'Toole wrote:
Not that a bike would be stolen or vandalized in Japan anyway... While mindless vandalism seems much less likely, theft is certainly quite common. James -- If I have seen further than others, it is by treading on the toes of giants. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ |
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Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote: Ian Walker wrote: When I worked in Germany, this was precisely what a lot of my colleagues did - a cheap old bike locked at each station. Great idea. I have a cheap bike that I use for supermarket runs. But at the supermarket I can lock her in a covered bike rack. I know this sounds crazy, but I love the bike and the idea of her sitting out in the rain and having evil skinheads steal the moveable bits or **** on her or damage her breaks my heart. That is because you are crazy. It has no feelings... It's okay to love your bikes, but love them for what they are. This reminds me of my parents' 4x4. They bought a 4x4 pickup truck a few years ago, so they could pull their boat and not get stuck in the snow. They live in a suburb of Vancouver. We get about 2 days of serious, 4x4-justifying snow each year. The best part of this story is that last year, they decided to go on a trip that would involve a considerable portion of gravel road. They opted to rent an SUV, largely to avoid damage to their truck. I like my bikes, but it's okay: they are just metal, they don't know about the skinheads. EFR Ile de France Who can never watch that IKEA commercial with the old desk-light dumped out on the street without getting choked up. It was directed by Spike Jonze, -- Ryan Cousineau, http://www.wiredcola.com Verus de parvis; verus de magnis. |
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In rec.bicycles.misc Jon Senior jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk wrote:
Ryan Cousineau opined the following... That is because you are crazy. It has no feelings... No feelings? Pah. Next you'll be telling us they can't feel love! i have to say he's got you there, ryan. please don't talk stupid. -- david reuteler |
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Jym Dyer wrote: ut in the form of "bikestations:" http://www.bikestation.org/ This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S. doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority. Yeah well, it's against the Amercan Way, ain't it? Futzin Commie! ;° EFR Ile de France |
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:06:14 +0200, Elisa Francesca Roselli
wrote: Jym Dyer wrote: ut in the form of "bikestations:" http://www.bikestation.org/ This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S. doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority. Yeah well, it's against the Amercan Way, ain't it? Futzin Commie! ;° EFR Ile de France I'd like to suggest we adopt Elisa's way excellent descriptive adjective this week for all expletive deleted, stripe-dbass, dum-bass, frickin', freakin' "color commentary". My grandfather used to tell me about shooting marbles. The little round clay ones, hard fired, beige pieces were called 'commies'. Hut-sut ralston was the chant 'on the rillaraw', so this really takes me back. OTOH, I'm at the 9 hours sleep in 6 days period of my Adventure Racing simulation (see Eco-Challenge), so what do I know. I might be dreaming this. I'd like to take this opportunity remind the lovely and talented Elisa that we're -still- awaiting a snapshot of her in full biking regalia, Behemoth, tights Victorian dresses, Giant brimmed hat, netting, petticoats and victorian hightop lace up bike shoes, and any other special gear, suitable for Wallpaper.... sigh -B Fear the futzin commie ham-sandwich. |
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: : This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train : stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S. : doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority. : : : Yeah well, it's against the Amercan Way, ain't it? : : Futzin Commie! ;° : : EFR : Ile de France No, it's not "against the American Way". It's just that this country grew in a different way from Europe. The cities are structured differently, except for the port cities. Dallas, for example, is spread out over many miles. That made it more difficult for bicycle commuting and easier for automobile commuting. Throw in the summer heat and strong winds into that equation, too. If you work 25 miles from where you live, that tends to make it difficult for bicycle commuting. Let's don't get started on blaming entire populations or using generalities based on country, shall we? Pat in TX |
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Pat wrote:
: : This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train : stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S. : doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority. : : : Yeah well, it's against the Amercan Way, ain't it? : : Futzin Commie! ;° : : EFR : Ile de France No, it's not "against the American Way". It's just that this country grew in a different way from Europe. The cities are structured differently, except for the port cities. Dallas, for example, is spread out over many miles. That made it more difficult for bicycle commuting and easier for automobile commuting. Throw in the summer heat and strong winds into that equation, too. If you work 25 miles from where you live, that tends to make it difficult for bicycle commuting. Let's don't get started on blaming entire populations or using generalities based on country, shall we? Pat in TX Mm, Pat? It looked to me like she was just making fun of the stereotype... -km -- Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts proud to be owned by a yorkie |
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