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Old March 16th 07, 11:52 PM posted to aus.bicycle
Campag_nut
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Default Less is more?

Campag have differential braking to prevent back wheel locking (bicycle
ABS?). Is this truly good technology or is it a scam - dressing up "less"
as safer?

Has anyone used this type of brake that can give me a review? My past
experience with small brakes (Aero Gran Compe in the 80's) was not good.
Certainly they saved weight but they had zero stopping power at the rear.

Thanks.



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Old March 17th 07, 12:50 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Michael Warner
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:52:29 GMT, Campag_nut wrote:

Campag have differential braking to prevent back wheel locking (bicycle
ABS?). Is this truly good technology or is it a scam - dressing up "less"
as safer?


It's just a weaker brake, locking the back wheel isn't very unsafe,
and if you're good with your brakes you wouldn't hit the back one as hard
anyway. The only real benefit is that it's a bit lighter (but probably more
prone to breaking).


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Old March 17th 07, 03:35 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Artoi
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Default Less is more?

In article ,
Michael Warner wrote:

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:52:29 GMT, Campag_nut wrote:

Campag have differential braking to prevent back wheel locking (bicycle
ABS?). Is this truly good technology or is it a scam - dressing up "less"
as safer?


It's just a weaker brake, locking the back wheel isn't very unsafe,
and if you're good with your brakes you wouldn't hit the back one as hard
anyway. The only real benefit is that it's a bit lighter (but probably more
prone to breaking).


Good riders use front brakes except for special road conditions. And the
rear brake is plenty for stopping power, any more would just induce
wheel lock up, so what's the point.

In any case, Campag nor any reputable brands aren't known for being
prone to breaking. They are well engineered and constructed.
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Old March 17th 07, 03:42 AM posted to aus.bicycle
flyingdutch[_21_]
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majority of your weight is or goes forwards as you brake, hence less
power needed at back. Campy went from single pivot brakes, to
dual-pivot brakes and then back again mainly to save weight and the
above.


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Old March 17th 07, 03:44 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Joel Mayes
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Default Less is more?

On 2007-03-17, Artoi wrote:
In article ,
Michael Warner wrote:

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:52:29 GMT, Campag_nut wrote:

Campag have differential braking to prevent back wheel locking (bicycle
ABS?). Is this truly good technology or is it a scam - dressing up "less"
as safer?


It's just a weaker brake, locking the back wheel isn't very unsafe,
and if you're good with your brakes you wouldn't hit the back one as hard
anyway. The only real benefit is that it's a bit lighter (but probably more
prone to breaking).


Good riders use front brakes except for special road conditions. And the
rear brake is plenty for stopping power, any more would just induce
wheel lock up, so what's the point.

In any case, Campag nor any reputable brands aren't known for being
prone to breaking. They are well engineered and constructed.
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*cough* steel whisker-thin cranks *cough* shimano QR *cough* cervalo R.2
carbon frames *cough* 1970s Phil Wood disk brakes *cough*

All either recalled or know to brake sudenly and without warning

Cheers

Joel


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Old March 17th 07, 03:54 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Artoi
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Default Less is more?

In article ,
Joel Mayes wrote:

On 2007-03-17, Artoi wrote:
In article ,
Michael Warner wrote:

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:52:29 GMT, Campag_nut wrote:

Campag have differential braking to prevent back wheel locking (bicycle
ABS?). Is this truly good technology or is it a scam - dressing up
"less"
as safer?

It's just a weaker brake, locking the back wheel isn't very unsafe,
and if you're good with your brakes you wouldn't hit the back one as hard
anyway. The only real benefit is that it's a bit lighter (but probably
more
prone to breaking).


Good riders use front brakes except for special road conditions. And the
rear brake is plenty for stopping power, any more would just induce
wheel lock up, so what's the point.

In any case, Campag nor any reputable brands aren't known for being
prone to breaking. They are well engineered and constructed.
--


*cough* steel whisker-thin cranks *cough* shimano QR *cough* cervalo R.2
carbon frames *cough* 1970s Phil Wood disk brakes *cough*

All either recalled or know to brake sudenly and without warning


There are selected cases where things break. But current single pivot
rear Campag brakes aren't know for breaking. The earlier comment "The
only real benefit is that it's a bit lighter (but probably more prone to
breaking)" has no factual basis.
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Old March 17th 07, 04:57 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Harng Goh
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Default Less is more?

On Mar 17, 2:44 pm, Joel Mayes wrote:
*cough* steel whisker-thin cranks *cough* shimano QR
*cough* cervalo R.2 carbon frames *cough* 1970s Phil Wood disk
brakes *cough*


That's a nasty cough you have there. Something's been going around.
Maybe you should see a doctor. Then again, the doctor will just say
drink plenty of water and have some rest. So maybe you should drink
plenty of water and have some rest.

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Old March 19th 07, 11:07 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Campag_nut
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"flyingdutch" wrote in
message ...

majority of your weight is or goes forwards as you brake, hence less
power needed at back. Campy went from single pivot brakes, to
dual-pivot brakes and then back again mainly to save weight and the
above.


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flyingdutch


Exactly - these "technological advances" are merely fashion dressed up as
science!

Time for me to bolt the old 80's brakes on again then...


 




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