I didn't think I'd like a "fixie"...

On 5/17/2011 7:43 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:
On 05/17/2011 08:08 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 5/17/2011 4:16 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:
Op 17-5-2011 22:41, (PeteCresswell) schreef:

Maybe QR are lighter or something - but, having had one QR front
wheel come up so loose (for no observed reason....) that only the
lawyer lips were keeping it from dropping out, I'll take nutted
any day.

Must been an operator error.
For this we are stuck with goddamn lawyer lips.

Lawyer lips, meet Dremelâ„¢ tool.

Goodbye, lawyer lips.


Could be the new style open QRs not holding tight enough. Had an issue
w/ rear wheel cocking on my one bike w/ horiz. dropouts w/ new Shimano
105 QR. Old enclosed (Campy-looking) Dura-Ace QR = no more problems.

Mr. Brown, as usual, has good advice on cams:
http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html. Good acorn nuts versus bad
acorn nuts are also discussed.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Per Nate Nagel:
Could be the new style open QRs not holding tight enough.

My theory is vibration while the bike was being ferried 100+
miles on a trailer-hitch-mounted rack.
--
PeteCresswell

On May 17, 4:16*pm, Lou Holtman wrote:
Op 17-5-2011 22:41, (PeteCresswell) schreef:

Maybe QR are lighter or something - but, having had one QR front
wheel come up so loose (for no observed reason....) that only the
lawyer lips were keeping it from dropping out, I'll take nutted
any day.

Must been an operator error.
For this we are stuck with goddamn lawyer lips.

Lou, QR any time

I've noticed loosening with Look fork tips (carbon fiber reinforced
injection-molded plastic?), but never with steel or aluminum drop
outs.

- Sergio Moretti

On Mon, 16 May 2011 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT), in rec.bicycles.tech
landotter wrote:

I'm quite fond of the sturdy and straightforward Redline tugnuts I use
on my single speed. Regular track dropouts. I rarely fuss with chain
tension, as you can pull the wheel, reinstall with the tugs, and the
chain will be exactly as it was before.

http://www.amazon.com/Redline-Alloy-...uct/B000AYEWUK

Really!??

And they work well for you? I wouldn't have thought they'd work on a
track dropout.

On May 19, 8:02*am, Tom Lake wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT), in rec.bicycles.tech

landotter wrote:
I'm quite fond of the sturdy and straightforward Redline tugnuts I use
on my single speed. Regular track dropouts. I rarely fuss with chain
tension, as you can pull the wheel, reinstall with the tugs, and the
chain will be exactly as it was before.

http://www.amazon.com/Redline-Alloy-...ack/dp/tags-on...

Really!??

And they work well for you? *I wouldn't have thought they'd work on a
track dropout.

That's exactly what they're designed for. Wouldn't work for semi-
horizontal dropouts, though. BMX and track, no problem.

Tom Lake wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT), in rec.bicycles.tech
landotter wrote:

I'm quite fond of the sturdy and straightforward Redline tugnuts I use
on my single speed. Regular track dropouts. I rarely fuss with chain
tension, as you can pull the wheel, reinstall with the tugs, and the
chain will be exactly as it was before.

http://www.amazon.com/Redline-Alloy-...uct/B000AYEWUK

Really!??

And they work well for you? I wouldn't have thought they'd work on a
track dropout.


These can _only_ work with rear-facing horizontal ends.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 19 May 2011 18:12:16 -0500, in rec.bicycles.tech AMuzi
wrote:

Tom Lake wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT), in rec.bicycles.tech
landotter wrote:

I'm quite fond of the sturdy and straightforward Redline tugnuts I use
on my single speed. Regular track dropouts. I rarely fuss with chain
tension, as you can pull the wheel, reinstall with the tugs, and the
chain will be exactly as it was before.

http://www.amazon.com/Redline-Alloy-...uct/B000AYEWUK

Really!??

And they work well for you? I wouldn't have thought they'd work on a
track dropout.


These can _only_ work with rear-facing horizontal ends.

Yeah, that's what I thought; however, I've not put it to the old "acid
test".

So, I have the old 30 degree up, front-facing Chinelli track/sport
dropouts... is there any hope for me? I cuss at it every time I have
to set the wheel and tension the chain... if I had two more hands it
would be a piece of cake!

Methinks it's time to fire up the trusty old Bridgeport!!!

Jones

PS: We'll be in Madison in two weeks. Is it possible to rent a
tandem? We're a well experienced team; however, the tandem is a
*must* as I have a blind stoker.

landotter wrote:
I'm quite fond of the sturdy and straightforward Redline tugnuts I use
on my single speed. Regular track dropouts. I rarely fuss with chain
tension, as you can pull the wheel, reinstall with the tugs, and the
chain will be exactly as it was before.
http://www.amazon.com/Redline-Alloy-...uct/B000AYEWUK

Tom Lake wrote:
Really!??
And they work well for you? I wouldn't have thought they'd work on a
track dropout.


AMuzi wrote:
These can _only_ work with rear-facing horizontal ends.

!Jones wrote:
Yeah, that's what I thought; however, I've not put it to the old "acid
test".
So, I have the old 30 degree up, front-facing Chinelli track/sport
dropouts... is there any hope for me? I cuss at it every time I have
to set the wheel and tension the chain... if I had two more hands it
would be a piece of cake!
Methinks it's time to fire up the trusty old Bridgeport!!!
PS: We'll be in Madison in two weeks. Is it possible to rent a
tandem? We're a well experienced team; however, the tandem is a
*must* as I have a blind stoker.


Chain pulls for most riders are a mere affectation.
The greater bulk of we fixed gear riders do just fine
without them. May save a couple seconds of wheel change
time. Or may not, actually.

They have their place but this isn't it. Clearly beyond
useless and actually in the way with normal road ends. Skip
the impediment, drop a wheel in your Cinelli and go ride.

re tandem: yes. Write me please.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971