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On 1 Aug 2003 20:48:22 -0700, ant wrote:
it just doesnt seem appropraite a lot of the time. as fast as i am going, on a rigid fork, with all the rocks and roots and mud, the front seems to need all the traction and bounce it can get without me trying to brake with it. ive skidded the front a few times, not an experience i am used to for day to day road riding, and i do almost all my speed modulation with the rear now. just seems like its cutting it too close with the front. then again, the few places ive been riding this beast around dont have much in the way of straightaways, and the surface is loose. ymmv. I used to ride rigid in the same type of terrain. Give the front brake a chance, spend some time on it. It's still more useful, even in those conditions. -- Rick Onanian |
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well, we're still loooking for the lab/computer machine to quantify
the misc. ramblings on braking. BUT i begin noticing a trend that suggest alotta guys haven't developed a two hand braking capacity with enough ottolith to sense polar moment inertia from rear and front and then COORDINATE MAX BRAKE AND MAX BALANCE with all due respect to gary nixon's broken bones the discussion proceeds without a bottle to hold it in? don't take this as an insult or that I have superior reflexs that's absolutely untrue. ima ground sloth. on the other hand I can heal and toe and slide and snap gears up and down but that's practice. so to suggest the discussion(without the lab model to quantify) revolves hehehe around an unexperienced sensation. and that gary nixon et al may not be forthcoming for one reason or another. ????????????????????????????=T |
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On 2 Aug 2003 08:17:48 -0700, g.daniels wrote:
BUT i begin noticing a trend that suggest alotta guys haven't developed a two hand braking capacity with enough ottolith to sense What's ottolith? polar moment inertia from rear and front and then COORDINATE MAX BRAKE AND MAX BALANCE with all due respect to gary nixon's broken bones the I suspect that many people have, in fact, developed the abilities described above; but many of the front-brake-only people choose that method for personal reasons. For me, it was a habit I got into as a child after wearing through too many rear tires; I had a bike for which I couldn't find a new tire, and so needed to use the front brake only. Since then, I was out of biking for awhile, then got into mountain biking a few years back, and found that I feel more efficient using mostly the front brake, and some rear (sometimes just one or the other). On my road bike, I generally only need the front brake, though I've used the rear out of reflex in panic stops. discussion proceeds without a bottle to hold it in? What does that mean? A bottle to hold the discussion? absolutely untrue. ima ground sloth. on the other hand I can heal and toe and slide and snap gears up and down but that's practice. Sounds like you've been listening to too much Brooks & Dunn. "Heel toe doe-see-doe come on baby let's go down" so to suggest the discussion(without the lab model to quantify) revolves hehehe around an unexperienced sensation. and that gary nixon What? ????????????????????????????=T My feelings exactly. I was only able to interpret parts of your message; for better readability, you could use the Enter key, and near-correct punctuation; and you could use easier language to understand. ...."Caddilac blackjack baby meet me outback, we're gonna boogie"... -- Rick "country bumpkin / grammar nazi" Onanian |
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What's ottolith?
He means "otolith". Look it up, you're on the internet. :-) -- _______________________ALL AMIGA IN MY MIND_______________________ ------------------"Buddy Holly, the Texas Elvis"------------------ in.edu__________ |
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"Mike S." mikeshaw2@coxDOTnet wrote in message news:dfIWa.60541
You just hit the nail on the head. Once you get to the point where you aren't too freaked out to use the front brake, you'll find that you can just about use it to go down anything AND have more control doing it. Going down steeps here in San Diego, I brake using the front, feathering it so that it is almost but not quite locking. The rear is barely useful since all my weight is forward. 'went for another short ride. as luck would have it, it seems that i use the front more than i recalled. it was a natural reflex when i actually had some serious stopping to do, and of course a standard method for the straight and true bits. still a little hairy on the rough downhills, thoguh, what with the rigid fork and roots and rocks and all. i guess i remember using the rear more becuase this is the first time ive ever really wanted it. and on some of those aforementioned rocked, rooted, and rutted downhills, i really want it. i suppose it is the same thing as when i am zipping down a sandy descent on the fixie. front brake begins to get the wee-est bit iffy, for once. You do a lot less damage to the trails when you aren't skidding your wheels around. in my few offroad rides, (coutn 'em on my hands few) ive locked the wheels only a handful of times. ill keep the trails nice for my kids, 'promise. cheers |
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"g.daniels" wrote in message m... well, we're still loooking for the lab/computer machine to quantify the misc. ramblings on braking. BUT i begin noticing a trend that suggest alotta guys haven't developed a two hand braking capacity with enough ottolith to sense polar moment inertia from rear and front and then COORDINATE MAX BRAKE AND MAX BALANCE Hey g.daniels... even though you're relatively illiterate, I agree very much with you on this one. How many people (on pedal-bikes) can maintain their rolling stoppies? Or simply have a stoppie where the wheel is a centimeter off the ground? Motorcycles are a lot heavier, have a lot more inertia, and therefore are probably easier to control in this respect. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training |
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