Endless Arguments

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 8:21:39 PM UTC+1, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

Reminds me of the day I posted "The sun shines" at
rec.audio.tubes (RAT) as an experiment in motivational psych

If that was in reference to a colonsocopy (where the sun doesn't
shine), I can see why there might have been a problem.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Nah, the subject of the experiment, members of the Magnequest Scum, didn't have the brains or the literary nous even for such an obvious joke. In their default mode they screeched that i lied, and offered a weather report for Bandon, Colorado, as proof. Bandon CO is about 5000 miles nearer to Jay than to me. One of them bragged about a masters in electronics from Stanford (Henry Pasternack, the one I labelled Pompass Plodnick for being a pompous asshole and a dull plodder with it), another of a masters in politics from the U of Pennsylvania (Michael LeFevre, the idiot who thought Gothenburg is in Austria), which probably explains their inability to read a map. Their apparent reason for throwing themselves against my ankles and thus licensing me to put them in my motivational psych lab and turn them into a profit centre for me (while complaining loudly for years about them persecuting me -- heh-heh!) was apparently that I didn't fold like the other audio gear designers the Magnequest Scum intimidated into using and recommending LeFever's pitifully inferior wound iron.

Andre Jute
Ride tall

Funny you should mention sound gear. Yesterday while riding back on a 45 mile ride I was singing songs from the 70,s 80's and 90's. It struck me that after that there WERE no new and good songs. Only those repeated endlessly over by an aging group of musicians from that time. Either that or on the radio or as background to a movie. Even the COVERS are trash. As far back as you can look into musical history there was good music. It stopped with the Millennials like running face-first into a wall at 25 mph lips first.

Today we have people like Frank who proclaims himself a Mechanical Engineer who taught. But as a teacher he doesn't think that the descriptive name of a component is important.

John blithers on about garbage with such a smell that I've ceased to read his postings.

News18 is a Facebook Freak who want to go along with the crowd so he agrees with the majority and not because he knows diddly squat.

Even Jeff doesn't seem to know that "carbon paste" is an abrasive and would rub it on seatposts of all things.

Jay is telling us about torqueing parts when he doesn't know that manufacturers in order to always err on the side of not breaking things ALWAYS make these specifications FAR to the conservative side so most mechanics still do it by feel as they've always done.

Exactly WHY are these people posting here? Is it merely to make the world think that they are still alive? Has any of these people started a thread that is pertaining to the purpose of this group?

I put a set of Vittoria Roubaix G+ tires on my LeMond and rode them yesterday. They ride a LOT softer than racing tires but they have so much rolling resistance that it is hard to believe. What do you want to bet that Frank wouldn't argue with that?

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 11:20:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

Even Jeff doesn't seem to know that "carbon paste" is
an abrasive and would rub it on seatposts of all things.

Methinks you should revisit that thread. You'll find that I didn't
say anything about carbon paste, abrasives, or mutilating seat posts.
In the future, it would help if you would accompany your assertions
with citations, references, Usenet article numbers, URL's, quotes, or
some clue as to the source of your misinformation.

Please deduct at least 5 points from your alleged IQ for this
effrontery.


Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 7:03:13 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 15:04:46 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 5:59:41 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 06:01:54 +0700, John B. wrote:


Right! And than we have Good Old Tom who apparently posts here to
demonstrate his vast ignorance.

Tom very much reminds me of an old guy who signed up for casual work at
a vacation youth camp consellor. Absolutely no relevant background, but
he had undertaken all the compulsory basic training and so entered the
roster as C-in-training.

First he distinguished himself by going for a lie down every afternoon,
but would be fresh for the evening when he regaled us with his endless
stories of "delivering" various sailing yachts through out the globe.

As the guy in charge quietly said to me one night; "have you ever
wondered why wih all that claimed great sailing experience, all his
trips ended in disaster". Tom's stories are like that; saltory remnders
of what no to do.

For all my irrelevance I've made a million a couple of times and am
presently again worth a million. Tell us all what you're worth? Or maybe
I should re-phrase that - what anyone would give for you?

It is relly sad that your own measure of worth is in $$$$. That you have
no other measure of your worth and yor impact throughout your life.

I've never summed how much income I've had over my life as it indicates
nothing. I'd prefer to remember the thousands of peope I've helped lead a
better life and to whom I've passed on my skills and values.

Further, I have no interest in exploring "what anyone would give for you"
as I have no need for anyone to give me anything. I structured my life
over forty years ago so that I could step off that circular treadmill of
employment and purchasing and implied feelng of inadequacy that soe many
people seem to need in their life as a justification.

My measure of worth is in my accomplishments: I'm VFW - what are you? 28 veterans are for Trump to every one against. Could that be that real life tends to open one's eyes?

I designed and programmed the micro-titration device used to discover HIV in the American blood banking system and connect it to AIDS. Thus saving literally millions of lives. How many lives have you saved?

I designed and programmed liquid and gas chromatographs which taught me about spectroscopy so that I know that "man-made global warming" is an entire lie from beginning to end.

I designed some communications boards that are on the International Space Station so my work is presently helping science to this day.

I programmed the poison gas detectors for the military so that they could discover the WMD that people like you claimed didn't exist. I also know that some 500,000 lbs of uranium yellowcake was captured in Iraq and confiscated and brought back to the USA via Canada. Frank will tell you that yellowcake isn't fissile material because he is a fool. The amount of uranium oxide recovered would boil down to over 2,600 nuclear bombs but asses will always be asses.

I even designed the hardware for the "smart meter" that PG&E uses to read your gas meters.

I also worked on the original large scale multi-user computer that was used as the west coat arm of Arcnet. The largest IBM would handle 3 users at once. Ours would use 100 simultaneous users. Frank would again comment as he did in the past that Arcnet is not the Internet because as the fool he is he doesn't know that the ONLY difference between the ARCNet and the Internet was the addressing structure which was a minor software change.

The money I made was a concomitant return of value for value - you are a moron who do not understand that.

Tell us what you've ever done that you're proud of. Made Hate-Trump comments? Talk about how socialism is the greatest idea ever? Argue that even though you love socialism you hate Russia because they didn't succeed in getting Hillary elected?

Tell us about your 12 year old mind and what you've done with it.

On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 10:52:38 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 8/25/2019 7:03 PM, news18 wrote:

snip

It is relly sad that your own measure of worth is in $$$$. That you have
no other measure of your worth and yor impact throughout your life.

In the Bay Area, being "worth a million" is of little consequence.

If you've owned even a modest house, for a decade or more, your net
worth, inclusive of equity in your house, is probably at least $1
million. And these aren't mansions!

Some people do cash out when they retire. They move to other areas with
much lower housing costs, and live off the proceeds from the sale of
their California real estate (or they move to a more rural part of
California).

We have a lot of house-rich, cash-poor seniors in this area. But because
of Prop. 13 they don't want to sell their house, they want to pass on
the low assessed value to their heirs. The unintended side effect is low
turnover of single family homes, so young families end up moving to more
distant communities and commuting if they want to buy a house.

Why do your comments leave me the impression that you are mortgaged to the hilt?

On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 11:43:42 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 11:20:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

Even Jeff doesn't seem to know that "carbon paste" is
an abrasive and would rub it on seatposts of all things.

Methinks you should revisit that thread. You'll find that I didn't
say anything about carbon paste, abrasives, or mutilating seat posts.
In the future, it would help if you would accompany your assertions
with citations, references, Usenet article numbers, URL's, quotes, or
some clue as to the source of your misinformation.

Please deduct at least 5 points from your alleged IQ for this
effrontery.


Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

My apologies Jeff, I meant Lou. Lou is generally pretty good but once in awhile slips into the group think prevalent on the Internet where you must be a member of the majority and not be capable of thinking for yourself.

Again I apologize for getting your names mixed up in the posting.

On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 7:20:29 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:

Funny you should mention sound gear. Yesterday while riding back on a 45 mile ride I was singing songs from the 70,s 80's and 90's. It struck me that after that there WERE no new and good songs. Only those repeated endlessly over by an aging group of musicians from that time. Either that or on the radio or as background to a movie. Even the COVERS are trash. As far back as you can look into musical history there was good music. It stopped with the Millennials like running face-first into a wall at 25 mph lips first.

Soon we'll have Tribute Bands of Tribute Bands of Doddering Old Men Bands. The vein of genius in pop music runs very thin. In fact, I think the last really good pop music was written in the 50s and the 60s.

One sort of music that I particularly miss is amusing songs, like John D Loudermilk wrote. Everyone takes themselves so seriously!

Andre Jute
Rock and roll, I gave you
All the best years of my life
All the dreamy, sunny Sundays
All the moonlit summer nights
-- Kevin Johnson

On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 6:42:45 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/26/2019 1:33 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 25 August 2019 22:06:53 UTC-4, news18 wrote:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:54:14 -0700, Andre Jute wrote:
nothing of value, again.

Trolls seldom post anything of value.

+1


--
- Frank Krygowski

And another two rabbits, Rideablot and the wannabe bullyboy, Krygowski, both long since frightened off by the truth, cowering in the dark at the back of their hutches, muttering under their breath at me.

Mutter on, rabbits.

Andre Jute
Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.
-- Julie Ward Howe

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 11:20:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 8:21:39 PM UTC+1, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

Reminds me of the day I posted "The sun shines" at
rec.audio.tubes (RAT) as an experiment in motivational psych

If that was in reference to a colonsocopy (where the sun doesn't
shine), I can see why there might have been a problem.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Nah, the subject of the experiment, members of the Magnequest Scum, didn't have the brains or the literary nous even for such an obvious joke. In their default mode they screeched that i lied, and offered a weather report for Bandon, Colorado, as proof. Bandon CO is about 5000 miles nearer to Jay than to me. One of them bragged about a masters in electronics from Stanford (Henry Pasternack, the one I labelled Pompass Plodnick for being a pompous asshole and a dull plodder with it), another of a masters in politics from the U of Pennsylvania (Michael LeFevre, the idiot who thought Gothenburg is in Austria), which probably explains their inability to read a map. Their apparent reason for throwing themselves against my ankles and thus licensing me to put them in my motivational psych lab and turn them into a profit centre for me (while complaining loudly for years about them persecuting me -- heh-heh!) was apparently that I didn't fold like the other audio gear designers the
Magnequest Scum intimidated into using and recommending LeFever's pitifully inferior wound iron.

Andre Jute
Ride tall

Funny you should mention sound gear. Yesterday while riding back on a 45 mile ride I was singing songs from the 70,s 80's and 90's. It struck me that after that there WERE no new and good songs. Only those repeated endlessly over by an aging group of musicians from that time. Either that or on the radio or as background to a movie. Even the COVERS are trash. As far back as you can look into musical history there was good music. It stopped with the Millennials like running face-first into a wall at 25 mph lips first.

Today we have people like Frank who proclaims himself a Mechanical Engineer who taught. But as a teacher he doesn't think that the descriptive name of a component is important.

John blithers on about garbage with such a smell that I've ceased to read his postings.

News18 is a Facebook Freak who want to go along with the crowd so he agrees with the majority and not because he knows diddly squat.

Even Jeff doesn't seem to know that "carbon paste" is an abrasive and would rub it on seatposts of all things.

Jay is telling us about torqueing parts when he doesn't know that manufacturers in order to always err on the side of not breaking things ALWAYS make these specifications FAR to the conservative side so most mechanics still do it by feel as they've always done.

Exactly WHY are these people posting here? Is it merely to make the world think that they are still alive? Has any of these people started a thread that is pertaining to the purpose of this group?

I put a set of Vittoria Roubaix G+ tires on my LeMond and rode them yesterday. They ride a LOT softer than racing tires but they have so much rolling resistance that it is hard to believe. What do you want to bet that Frank wouldn't argue with that?

I can't state with certainty exactly what the entire group you so
lovingly describe will say, but for me I'd have to say "Goodbye, and
don't let the door hit you in the arse as you leave".

I mean,, how could anyone be expected to spend time with such a
mediocre group as one finds here, when there must be, somewhere, a
group of highly superior individuals far more suited to your so
obvious superiority.

Ah, if you could only find them. Think of the glory... to be able to
associate only with others of one's own level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfka9m6NhzE
--

Cheers,

John B.

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 7:03:13 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 15:04:46 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 5:59:41 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 06:01:54 +0700, John B. wrote:


Right! And than we have Good Old Tom who apparently posts here to
demonstrate his vast ignorance.

Tom very much reminds me of an old guy who signed up for casual work at
a vacation youth camp consellor. Absolutely no relevant background, but
he had undertaken all the compulsory basic training and so entered the
roster as C-in-training.

First he distinguished himself by going for a lie down every afternoon,
but would be fresh for the evening when he regaled us with his endless
stories of "delivering" various sailing yachts through out the globe.

As the guy in charge quietly said to me one night; "have you ever
wondered why wih all that claimed great sailing experience, all his
trips ended in disaster". Tom's stories are like that; saltory remnders
of what no to do.

For all my irrelevance I've made a million a couple of times and am
presently again worth a million. Tell us all what you're worth? Or maybe
I should re-phrase that - what anyone would give for you?

It is relly sad that your own measure of worth is in $$$$. That you have
no other measure of your worth and yor impact throughout your life.

I've never summed how much income I've had over my life as it indicates
nothing. I'd prefer to remember the thousands of peope I've helped lead a
better life and to whom I've passed on my skills and values.

Further, I have no interest in exploring "what anyone would give for you"
as I have no need for anyone to give me anything. I structured my life
over forty years ago so that I could step off that circular treadmill of
employment and purchasing and implied feelng of inadequacy that soe many
people seem to need in their life as a justification.

My measure of worth is in my accomplishments: I'm VFW - what are you? 28 veterans are for Trump to every one against. Could that be that real life tends to open one's eyes?

I designed and programmed the micro-titration device used to discover HIV in the American blood banking system and connect it to AIDS. Thus saving literally millions of lives. How many lives have you saved?

I designed and programmed liquid and gas chromatographs which taught me about spectroscopy so that I know that "man-made global warming" is an entire lie from beginning to end.

I designed some communications boards that are on the International Space Station so my work is presently helping science to this day.

I programmed the poison gas detectors for the military so that they could discover the WMD that people like you claimed didn't exist. I also know that some 500,000 lbs of uranium yellowcake was captured in Iraq and confiscated and brought back to the USA via Canada. Frank will tell you that yellowcake isn't fissile material because he is a fool. The amount of uranium oxide recovered would boil down to over 2,600 nuclear bombs but asses will always be asses.

I even designed the hardware for the "smart meter" that PG&E uses to read your gas meters.

I also worked on the original large scale multi-user computer that was used as the west coat arm of Arcnet. The largest IBM would handle 3 users at once. Ours would use 100 simultaneous users. Frank would again comment as he did in the past that Arcnet is not the Internet because as the fool he is he doesn't know that the ONLY difference between the ARCNet and the Internet was the addressing structure which was a minor software change.

The money I made was a concomitant return of value for value - you are a moron who do not understand that.

Tell us what you've ever done that you're proud of. Made Hate-Trump comments? Talk about how socialism is the greatest idea ever? Argue that even though you love socialism you hate Russia because they didn't succeed in getting Hillary elected?

Tell us about your 12 year old mind and what you've done with it.

Gee, with all this "designed and programmed" work and you only ever
earned $400,000 in your whole life. $400,000 + $600,000 = $1,000,000
(as you claim).

Are you sure that you aren't telling lies? Or do you just work cheap?
--

Cheers,

John B.

On 8/26/2019 2:43 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 11:20:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

Even Jeff doesn't seem to know that "carbon paste" is
an abrasive and would rub it on seatposts of all things.

Methinks you should revisit that thread. You'll find that I didn't
say anything about carbon paste, abrasives, or mutilating seat posts.
In the future, it would help if you would accompany your assertions
with citations, references, Usenet article numbers, URL's, quotes, or
some clue as to the source of your misinformation.

Please deduct at least 5 points from your alleged IQ for this

Tom's great at mis-attributions, or perhaps imaginary attributions. He
keeps alluding to things I never said.

I do feel sorry for people whose memory fail. Really.

--
- Frank Krygowski