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Old November 24th 08, 09:02 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Bike seat on a 36er for road riding??

Those of you with significant, larger handlebars or even aero bars that
effectively hold you into the saddle and reduce the need for the forward
part of the hour-glass shape of a standard unicycle seat, someone here
(I think that Sasquach-Saskatchawanin?) suggested trying out a bike
seat. I think this idea will only work well with a significantly
forward leaning riding position.

Any one tried this yet?

I'm looking at adapting a standard bicycle touring seat to the modified
rail adaptor that is the backbone of the aero bar set that I'm using
now.

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Old November 24th 08, 09:09 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Oh and the three objectives behind such a move:
1. Increasing comfort
2. Decreasing weight
3. Increasing the efficiency of "the spin", not having the front part
of the seat to rub against your legs.

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Old November 24th 08, 09:14 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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No experience myself but I am so on board with trying it out. Saddle
soreness did not begin to describe what I felt on Saturday's long ride.
Contrary to all expectations, 109 miles on a conventional unicycle seat
did not make my wiener feel good.


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Old November 24th 08, 11:41 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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boisei;1137257 wrote:
109 miles on a conventional unicycle seat did not make my wiener feel
good.



lol true... but i guess a bike seat would be better for the inner thigh
soreness but ethier buy lube or try puting little more weight on the
handlebars less off balls


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Old November 25th 08, 12:20 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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I'd love to try a bike seat, but I'm just too lazy and/or overstretched
to bother trying to set up a good handlebar far out from the seat....

I know I'd want to keep the T7 though, to have both. I think. Imagine
having a magura brake hose "splitter" so that two separate handles (on
different bars on your uni) could be used to compress the pads into the
rim. That'd be awesome...


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Old November 25th 08, 12:39 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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chuckaeronut;1137465 wrote:
I'd love to try a bike seat, but I'm just too lazy and/or overstretched
to bother trying to set up a good handlebar far out from the seat....

I know I'd want to keep the T7 though, to have both. I think. Imagine
having a magura brake hose "splitter" so that two separate handles (on
different bars on your uni) could be used to compress the pads into the
rim. That'd be awesome...




I am sure you could get some sort of Y fitting for the hose to go to
two levers. Or failing that could you have hoses coming from both slave
cylinders?


I am down to only my MUni at the moment and it has a bent seatpost. I
might get a bike post and seat and throw my handle on there and see what
it is like but it would be on a 26x3 with 160s not exactly the ideal
road machine.

There is also lots of snow here right now so it is not really idea for
testing new setups but I will let you all know how I do if I get around
to doing this.


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Old November 25th 08, 11:43 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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i personal have a large handlebar setup and i'am doing a convursion to
make it fit a bicycle seat.

just have to order some more items next week (waiting for the money to
get in)
will post some pictures if its done.

i choose a seat that has a cut away part in the middle hoping thats it
will be more comfy on the longer rides.


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Old November 25th 08, 12:17 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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A downhill specific seat like the 'Azonic Love Seat'
(http://tinyurl.com/6a8udo) might be worth a try. The downhill style
saddles are longer and bigger than regular MTB saddles. A potential
downside to the Azonic Love Seat is that it doesn't have much padding
and is rather firm. There are other similar saddles by other
manufacturers.

I don't think a narrow road style saddle would work well. The narrow
racing road saddles only work on a bike when you're always pushing a big
gear and always on the drops. That's the opposite of how you ride and
sit on a unicycle. A more MTB specific saddle like a WTB Laser would be
a compromise but I still think it would be a little short and narrow up
front. The WTB Laser is a nice MTB saddle that works well for a more
upright MTB posture and spinning lower gears that is typical of MTB
riding and casual cruising.


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Old November 25th 08, 07:47 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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I went out and got a seat and post and tried it out.

I am using my handlebar with a Kalloy seatpost (unfortunately 24.0 so I
needed to shim) and a KHS saddle from the cheap bin. This is on my 26"
MUni because that is the only unicycle I have at the moment.

It took me a while to get the seat angle and height right but I
eventually found a setting that was fairly comfortable. I had to turn
the seatpost backwards to let the seat sit flat when I rode.

First thing I noticed was how free it felt on the front part of my
crotch. the seat felt like... I was riding a bike. All my weight was on
my 'sit bones' and the handle. The next thing I noticed was an absence
of rubbing. I never really thought of it before but my legs rub allot on
a unicycle seat. Since there was less between my legs I found that I was
riding with my knees closer together and seemed to spin (160mm cranks,
HA!) fairly smooth.

So far it was awesome. I could see myself going indefinitely without
discomfort with a better seat. I can only ride for about an hour strait
before I start getting discomfort with a unicycle seat.

Then I straitened out taking the weight off the handlebars. It went
from weight on my hand and sit bones to weight on my legs and a single
point in my crotch. Not comfortable at all.

I think my handlebars are a bit shorter than ideal for this setup but I
really liked what I had experienced so far as far as a road setup is
concerned. I think that my next road unicycle will have a long handle
and bike seat setup.


A bit random but I think that something like the WTB Laser (which I
have on my bike) would be the ideal seat for this. A bit softer than a
pure road/race seat and actually designed to be sat on for extended
periods of time unlike a downhill seat.


and here is an old picture with my handle for those not familiar with
it. I don't have a camera to take pics of the current test setup.
[image:
http://www.unicyclist.com/gallery2/m...f982b4b17877a]


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Old November 26th 08, 05:12 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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saskatchewanian;1137957 wrote:
I went out and got a seat and post and tried it out.

I am using my handlebar with a Kalloy seatpost (unfortunately 24.0 so I
needed to shim) and a KHS saddle from the cheap bin. This is on my 26"
MUni because that is the only unicycle I have at the moment.

It took me a while to get the seat angle and height right but I
eventually found a setting that was fairly comfortable. I had to turn
the seatpost backwards to let the seat sit flat when I rode.

First thing I noticed was how free it felt on the front part of my
crotch. the seat felt like... I was riding a bike. All my weight was on
my 'sit bones' and the handle. The next thing I noticed was an absence
of rubbing. I never really thought of it before but my legs rub allot on
a unicycle seat. Since there was less between my legs I found that I was
riding with my knees closer together and seemed to spin (160mm cranks,
HA!) fairly smooth.

So far it was awesome. I could see myself going indefinitely without
discomfort with a better seat. I can only ride for about an hour strait
before I start getting discomfort with a unicycle seat.

Then I straitened out taking the weight off the handlebars. It went
from weight on my hand and sit bones to weight on my legs and a single
point in my crotch. Not comfortable at all.

I think my handlebars are a bit shorter than ideal for this setup but I
really liked what I had experienced so far as far as a road setup is
concerned. I think that my next road unicycle will have a long handle
and bike seat setup.


A bit random but I think that something like the WTB Laser (which I
have on my bike) would be the ideal seat for this. A bit softer than a
pure road/race seat and actually designed to be sat on for extended
periods of time unlike a downhill seat.






Interesting report Saskat. This really got me thinking. So I went to
the local used bike co-op yesterday and bought a handfull of old seat
rail clamp parts to try this out - with a couple of bored holes in the
top plate of the adaptor, I think I can mount the bike seat on top of
the exisitng rail adaptor. This will add about a half inch to my seat
height, but give me the flexibility to try out a couple of different
styles of bike seats. The downhill seat John Childs linked to might be
an interesting one to try out.

More later.
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