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On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 21:35:15 -0500, Joy Beeson
wrote: On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 10:38:23 +0700, John B. Slocomb wrote: What is a "comfort bike"? I goggled it and found something like this https://www.amazon.com/comfort-bikes...8&node=3403981 One of the meaningless selling words for a semi-recumbent/flatfoot/crank-forward bike. Mine is a Trek Pure. http://classiccycleus.com/home/wp-co...31-300x225.jpg only black. Most of the images I found were that weird shade of blue. One of the hits mourned that they are no longer being made. Pity; they aren't real bikes, but they are excellent wheelchairs. As shown in your reference the seat post/seat junction doesn't look remarkable far back, it appears to be located about half way from the bottom bracket to the rear axle. I checked one of my road bikes and the seat post/seat junction seems about the same. My reference, above, shows several bikes that look similar. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 11:54:24 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 4:53:56 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/2/2019 5:28 AM, wrote: On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 4:05:29 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 6:24:17 PM UTC-8, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:59:06 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:13:00 PM UTC-5, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:28:24 -0000 (UTC), bob prohaska wrote: patrick wrote: Since I've been contemplating a fetch bike, I thought that perhaps an electra townie type so called flat foot bikes as a grocery getter in that the rear rack (which is mentioned by a couple of the posters) wouldn't have the interference while pedaling like a more conventional bike. I get that the mechanics (ie-standing to pedal) might not be good but at my age the standing isn't really used that much anyway! Regards, Pat You're almost certainly right in that a feed-forward design will cure the feet-to-pannier-basket clearance problem. The real problem is that all pannier setups tend to put heavy loads too far aft, past the rear axle. Having the CG too close to the rear axle is what causes instability and a tendency to wheelie. A better solution is to move the rider forward, away from the rear wheel, but then the whole bike gets longer and heavier. The extreme would be a tandem, with the panniers where the stoker would sit. One sees cargo bikes like that around my neighborhood, usually with a kid seat above the panniers. It's a huge bus of a bike. Ideal for its purpose, but only one purpose and expernsive to boot. A standard upright bike with ordinary folding baskets carries most shopping loads easily. For heavier loads a trailer is an easy incremental improvement. Of course, if you happen to have an old tandem lying around, so much the better... My $.02, bob prohaska https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0SEpVo33AM :-) -- Cheers, John B. I see that a lot of people including whomever gave the video its title don't know the difference between a bicycle and a tricycle. Hint, a BIcycle has TWO wheels and A TRIcycle has THREE wheels. LOL VBEG ;) Other than the 2-wheel Bullitts in that video almost all of the Cargo Bikes are actually Cargo Trikes. Cheers True, but a tri-cycle can carry more and more varied loads than a bi-cycle :-) For the pure at heart see: https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...t-cargo-bikes/ Groan. I'll drive. I remember when I didn't own a car. I would borrow my sister's car and do a massive shop. Then I would pick up this and that on my bike. I still do that -- except I own my own car, and a lot of times I'll just walk the half mile to the local market. -- Jay Beattie. Me too. Hauling groceries is a perfect application for a car. Doing your weekly shopping by bicycle just because I don't get. For a few forgotten items it can be more practical at a time there is a lot of traffic and busy parking lots. But other than that I take my car without any guilt. I like getting groceries or doing other utility stuff by bike. I wonder if the difference is that some people like bicycling for "training" or for adventure, for conquering mountains or for achieving personal bests. Other people just like bicycling, period. I've done mountains and training and personal bests - although I'm beyond the age where I'll set new personal bests. But I still like riding my bike even 0.4 miles to the post office and back. And if my grocery runs can carry only half as much as a trip by car, it's no problem. It just means I can ride my bike to the grocery more often. -- - Frank Krygowski I often get the impression that I live in a different cycling universe than yours ;-). An enjoyable ride for me is on a snappy bike, in comfortable cycling clothes, on quiet country roads, nice scenery and preferable in nice weather. The weather I can't choose so I take it as it comes, but the rest I can. Riding on a heavy sluggish utility bike hauling 10 kg of groceries on busy urban roads is not an enjoyable ride for me. It can be a necessity or more effective but not enjoyable. YMMV. Lou I agree with you completely. But what if your choice is driving your car 1/2 mile and hence getting 10 mpg or riding a bike up there and at least getting a little exercise? It that case I take the bike. But one of my 'tactics' is getting groceries, when there is almost no traffic, lot of parking spaces so I can park right in front of the store and it is quiet in the grocery store. In my case it is the first thing I do when I get up on a saturday morning just after the grocery store opens at 8.00 am. I only shop once a week, because I consider it as a nuisance. YMMV. Lou |
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On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 10:46:01 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/3/2019 2:29 AM, wrote: I often get the impression that I live in a different cycling universe than yours ;-). ... I get up on a saturday morning just after the grocery store opens at 8.00 am... Yes, our universes are different indeed. Waking at 8 AM is almost torture for me. -- - Frank Krygowski I'm lucky in that there is a 24hours grocery store within a mile of me. that makes it so much easier to ride the bicycle to do grocery shopping in the wee hours of the morning say around 2AM or so. There is virtually no traffic and there are no lineups in the store. Cheers |
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On 2/3/2019 10:01 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 10:46:01 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/3/2019 2:29 AM, wrote: I often get the impression that I live in a different cycling universe than yours ;-). ... I get up on a saturday morning just after the grocery store opens at 8.00 am... Yes, our universes are different indeed. Waking at 8 AM is almost torture for me. -- - Frank Krygowski I'm lucky in that there is a 24hours grocery store within a mile of me. that makes it so much easier to ride the bicycle to do grocery shopping in the wee hours of the morning say around 2AM or so. There is virtually no traffic and there are no lineups in the store. And you can meet some very interesting people 2~4am in a grocery. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 9:13:44 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/3/2019 10:01 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 10:46:01 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/3/2019 2:29 AM, wrote: I often get the impression that I live in a different cycling universe than yours ;-). ... I get up on a saturday morning just after the grocery store opens at 8.00 am... Yes, our universes are different indeed. Waking at 8 AM is almost torture for me. -- - Frank Krygowski I'm lucky in that there is a 24hours grocery store within a mile of me.. that makes it so much easier to ride the bicycle to do grocery shopping in the wee hours of the morning say around 2AM or so. There is virtually no traffic and there are no lineups in the store. And you can meet some very interesting people 2~4am in a grocery. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 I wouldn't say "interesting" as much as "strange". And since it's Frank I'm sure they would have the same opinions. I know that Frank is a big jerk but I like him anyway. |
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Op zondag 3 februari 2019 16:43:23 UTC+1 schreef Frank Krygowski:
On 2/2/2019 5:47 PM, wrote: Riding on a heavy sluggish utility bike hauling 10 kg of groceries on busy urban roads is not an enjoyable ride for me. I'm sorry. That's kind of sad. What is sad? I enjoy lots of different types of riding. What gives you the impression I don't. Should I enjoy hauling groceries by bike? It was raining/snowing yesterday morning and I met a colleague at the store. He was on his bike and in full rain gear soaking wet just to get groceries. I know he owns a car. Does he feel guilty taking the car? WTF? Lou |
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Op zondag 3 februari 2019 16:46:01 UTC+1 schreef Frank Krygowski:
On 2/3/2019 2:29 AM, wrote: I often get the impression that I live in a different cycling universe than yours ;-). ... I get up on a saturday morning just after the grocery store opens at 8.00 am... Yes, our universes are different indeed. Waking at 8 AM is almost torture for me. -- - Frank Krygowski I always get up between 7.00-7.30 u. Some of us have to work on weekdays you know. Lou |
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wrote:
Op zondag 3 februari 2019 16:43:23 UTC+1 schreef Frank Krygowski: On 2/2/2019 5:47 PM, wrote: Riding on a heavy sluggish utility bike hauling 10 kg of groceries on busy urban roads is not an enjoyable ride for me. I'm sorry. That's kind of sad. What is sad? I enjoy lots of different types of riding. What gives you the impression I don't. Should I enjoy hauling groceries by bike? It was raining/snowing yesterday morning and I met a colleague at the store. He was on his bike and in full rain gear soaking wet just to get groceries. I know he owns a car. Does he feel guilty taking the car? WTF? Lou +1 Though I do try to commute by bike when I can. Great way to relieve work related stress. But I use my road bike with a backpack. -- duane |
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