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The Age: If you're male and you ride, beware
Tamyka Bell wrote:
(WRT one of the other ones, I believe that, if you don't trigger a light, and it goes through a few cycles and doesn't turn green, you're allowed to ride through the red when safe to do so - and you can demonstrate your inability to trigger the lights if anyone doubts your honesty. In most cases I've found it easier to roll forward and signal to the driver behind to move forward and trigger them for me.) Tam I recall reading about this one on aus.motorcycles . If the lights don't trigger, then they can be considered faulty and treated as a stop sign. DaveB |
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The Age: If you're male and you ride, beware
Michael Warner wrote: On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:01:31 +1000, Tamyka Bell wrote: travel further and it's faster by bike. Why are people so cranky when the work day is over and they get to relax? Maybe they should ride bikes. This is just another form of the old question "Why do most people turn into maniacs when you put them behind the wheel of a car"? IMHO it's because driving a car is potentially fun (as always depicted in ads), but driving in clogged modern cities is so frustrating. But even in heavy traffic, a bike's limitation is still almost entirely its rider. I would suggest an alternative explanation, namely a lack of accountability and a sense of invulnerability when in a car or truck. Not likely to get caught, so can get away with just about anything. |
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The Age: If you're male and you ride, beware
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on 1 Oct 2006 16:58:47 -0700 AndrewJ wrote: I wouldn't judge the research by the journalism. They have just tried to manufacture a headline so that people will read it. Given that most of the accidents seem to happen to the group that is strongest represented, it brings to mind that George Burns quote: once you get to 100 you are fine, because hardly anyone dies aged over 100.... So the interesting question is, are they under-represented or over-represented? SOmeone elsewhere quotefd a UK study on urban cycling that showed teenaged girls wore helmets more often than teenaged boys, but had more head injuries. I couldn't get the paper (subscription only) so I have no idea if it's an exposure thing, they are less confident in traffic, cars pass them too closely, they ride at different times and different places.... So many variables. The majority of commuter cyclists I see are male. The few women I see run as many red lights as the men. On my commute I see other cyclists only close in to the city - Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont Bridge, Kent St. And I am consistently the only one who waits for red lights[1]. Must be the bent riding position, I think I'm in a car and so have to obey road rules. Zebee [1] people do wait at the Kent St end of the Pyrmont Bridge ramp, but only because there are a lot of cars. If there's a gap they'll be off. Ditto the other end of Pyrmont Bridge: if there's a gap then it's full of pushbikes. Hi Zebee and friends, For anyone interested, the report is available online as Report 251 at: http://www.monash.edu.au/muarc/reports/rpts06.html From my quick reading, it appears that there has been no attempt to normalise the accident rate by the prevalence of road use. In broad terms, 80% of the crashes involved male cyclists, while according to a Australia Bicycle Council report in 2004, 80% of those who cycle to work are male. That report is available online too: http://www.cycle-helmets.com/austral...ategy-2004.pdf So, the statistics appear to suggest that demographic groups which cycle more are more likely to have an accident while riding. Not very newsworthy, really. Of course things are rarely quite so simple, and the number of kilometres ridden by each demographic group might need to be taken into account. Some studies have indicated that those who ride more frequently are safer on a per-kilometre basis. It has been nice weather in Perth and so more cyclists are on the roads. Were my four days' commuting by bike last week safer than riding one day in the week before? No, but possibly I am riding myself into a more experienced safer-per-kilometre zone. Cheers, Vince 'Be prepared for the lurking one out of fifty' |
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In aus.bicycle on Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:10:39 +1000
DaveB wrote: 15. the intersection is clear anyway and lights are superfluous. In other words "lights are really stop signs. But if I saw a car doing it I'd be furious!" Zebee |
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rooman Wrote: I've been pondering the red light thing, watched heaps of riders do it, and asked around "why"... and from observing so many, and just watching what goes on ...especially at times when I have to restrain my urge to yell "red light d..wad!" ...so many times...., but what do you think? I like the Mr Bean reason - because he saw someone else do it. http://www.bikenow.com.au/downloads/...ffic_Light.mpg -- ghostgum |
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:10:39 +1000 DaveB wrote: 15. the intersection is clear anyway and lights are superfluous. In other words "lights are really stop signs. But if I saw a car doing it I'd be furious!" Zebee In an ideal world I'd like most red lights to be treated as stop signs, for all vehicles. Unfortunately that assumes a certain amount of common sense out there so never likely to happen. Is that still the case in Sydney CBD at night (i recall it was a long time ago). DaveB |
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ghostgum Wrote: I like the Mr Bean reason - because he saw someone else do it. http://tinyurl.com/ezuyg darn . left that one off... you can vote he http://www.cyclingforums.com/showthread.php?t=367162 -- rooman |
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The Age Your Say: Safety for cyclists - Have your say on Your Say over at our Citizen blog http://tinyurl.com/fa82c Male cyclists aged 30 to 39 are at high risk of being killed or injured in collisions with motor vehicles on weekdays from 4pm to 6pm. Nine out of 10 collisions happen on a straight stretch of road with the vehicle hitting the bike by turning or parking and eighty per cent of crash victims were men. With 11 Victorian cyclists killed on Victoria's roads so far this year, is it time that greater safety measures protecting cyclists were put in place? What changes would you like to see? Posted by Ed October 2, 2006 09:39 AM -- cfsmtb |
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cfsmtb wrote:
The Age Your Say: Safety for cyclists - Have your say on Your Say over at our Citizen blog http://tinyurl.com/fa82c Male cyclists aged 30 to 39 are at high risk of being killed or injured in collisions with motor vehicles on weekdays from 4pm to 6pm. Nine out of 10 collisions happen on a straight stretch of road with the vehicle hitting the bike by turning or parking and eighty per cent of crash victims were men. With 11 Victorian cyclists killed on Victoria's roads so far this year, is it time that greater safety measures protecting cyclists were put in place? What changes would you like to see? Posted by Ed October 2, 2006 09:39 AM I think I need a new cycling jersey that says "CAR REGISTRATION DOESN'T PAY FOR ROADS!" DaveB |
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DaveB Wrote: I think I need a new cycling jersey that says "CAR REGISTRATION DOESN'T PAY FOR ROADS!" With a discreet paragraph about dispelling myths on petrol tax and describing how consolidated revenue really works .. .. Oh don't bother. -- cfsmtb |
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