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Old September 9th 03, 09:21 AM
Suzy Jackson
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"hippy" wrote in message
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Man, how hard do you have to brake post sprint ? That corner looks
real close............


I think it actually runs the other way?
Have a look at the distance markings.


Riders go clockwise around the circuit, so you have an enormous 400m long
straight (typically into a howling headwind) before the finish line.
There's about 40m or so after the line to lose some speed afterwards before
the corner. It's not a big problem slowing down, given that there's usually
a good stiff wind to help.

Regards,

Suzy


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Old September 9th 03, 09:27 AM
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hippy wrote:
"rickster" wrote in message
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Man, how hard do you have to brake post sprint ? That corner looks
real close............



I think it actually runs the other way?
Have a look at the distance markings.

hippy

No, the corner is right after the S/F line (the course runs clockwise).
But its proximity doesn't seem to be a problem even for the A graders
(and certainly not for me!).

The distance markings are metres left to go to the S/F line, i.e. the
final straight is 400m long.

&roo

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Old September 9th 03, 09:27 AM
Andrew Swan
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hippy wrote:
"rickster" wrote in message
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Man, how hard do you have to brake post sprint ? That corner looks
real close............



I think it actually runs the other way?
Have a look at the distance markings.

hippy

No, the corner is right after the S/F line (the course runs clockwise).
But its proximity doesn't seem to be a problem even for the A graders
(and certainly not for me!).

The distance markings are metres left to go to the S/F line, i.e. the
final straight is 400m long.

&roo

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Old September 9th 03, 10:29 AM
Andrew Swan
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Jeff Jones wrote:
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"Jeff Jones" jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com wrote in message


news:3f5cd7fa$0$9555[snip] All in all, I think it's one of the best racing
circuits in Sydney - eight

or nine corners, a couple of little hills, lotsa wind, a fairly wide but


not

too wide track, and a good crowd of regulars. It's a great circuit to


learn

criterium skills on.

cheers,
Jeff


Man, how hard do you have to brake post sprint ? That corner looks
real close............



It's fairly close, but it's an easy corner and you can take it at full speed
(50+ km/h) while pedalling. It's not necessary to brake at all after the
sprint.

Trap for young players: The Randwick Botany and Eastern Suburbs finish lines
differ by about 20m (the Easts line comes first). I've seen a number of
races where the potential winner wasn't aware of this :-)

Easts race on Tuesday nights there in summer, while Randwick Botany races on
Saturdays all year round.

cheers,
Jeff


Hi Jeff,

What grades does Easts run, what date do the "summer" races start, and
are RBCC members welcome?

TIA,

&roo

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Old September 9th 03, 10:29 AM
Andrew Swan
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Jeff Jones wrote:
"rickster" wrote in message
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"Jeff Jones" jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com wrote in message


news:3f5cd7fa$0$9555[snip] All in all, I think it's one of the best racing
circuits in Sydney - eight

or nine corners, a couple of little hills, lotsa wind, a fairly wide but


not

too wide track, and a good crowd of regulars. It's a great circuit to


learn

criterium skills on.

cheers,
Jeff


Man, how hard do you have to brake post sprint ? That corner looks
real close............



It's fairly close, but it's an easy corner and you can take it at full speed
(50+ km/h) while pedalling. It's not necessary to brake at all after the
sprint.

Trap for young players: The Randwick Botany and Eastern Suburbs finish lines
differ by about 20m (the Easts line comes first). I've seen a number of
races where the potential winner wasn't aware of this :-)

Easts race on Tuesday nights there in summer, while Randwick Botany races on
Saturdays all year round.

cheers,
Jeff


Hi Jeff,

What grades does Easts run, what date do the "summer" races start, and
are RBCC members welcome?

TIA,

&roo

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Old September 9th 03, 01:38 PM
Andrew Swan
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Jeff Jones wrote:
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Hi Jeff,

What grades does Easts run, what date do the "summer" races start, and
are RBCC members welcome?


Easts run a 15 lap (30 km) criterium at 6pm on Tuesday nights, normally
starting the first or second week in November. The crit is a handicap race,
and there are three grades. C grade usually gets just over a lap headstart
on A grade, with B grade getting 3/4 of a lap on A grade.

Grade comparison: The Easts crit is comparable to "open" grades rather than
"club" grades, meaning that if you race B grade on Saturdays, then you'd
probably be comfortable in C grade on Tuesdays.

RBCC riders are welcome. Frank Conceicao (Easts) is the big
boss/handicapper/etc. and you can argue with him about your grading until
the cows come home.

It's probably the hardest crit of the week in Sydney and in A grade you
often get a few pro's and NSWIS riders showing up (Matt White, Graeme Brown
etc.).

cheers,
Jeff


Whoa. Sounds way too intense (i.e. fast!) for me. Thanks for the info.

&roo

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Old September 9th 03, 01:38 PM
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Jeff Jones wrote:
"Andrew Swan" wrote in message
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Hi Jeff,

What grades does Easts run, what date do the "summer" races start, and
are RBCC members welcome?


Easts run a 15 lap (30 km) criterium at 6pm on Tuesday nights, normally
starting the first or second week in November. The crit is a handicap race,
and there are three grades. C grade usually gets just over a lap headstart
on A grade, with B grade getting 3/4 of a lap on A grade.

Grade comparison: The Easts crit is comparable to "open" grades rather than
"club" grades, meaning that if you race B grade on Saturdays, then you'd
probably be comfortable in C grade on Tuesdays.

RBCC riders are welcome. Frank Conceicao (Easts) is the big
boss/handicapper/etc. and you can argue with him about your grading until
the cows come home.

It's probably the hardest crit of the week in Sydney and in A grade you
often get a few pro's and NSWIS riders showing up (Matt White, Graeme Brown
etc.).

cheers,
Jeff


Whoa. Sounds way too intense (i.e. fast!) for me. Thanks for the info.

&roo

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Old September 10th 03, 12:12 AM
hippy
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"Andrew Swan" wrote in message
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No, the corner is right after the S/F line (the course runs

clockwise).

The distance markings are metres left to go to the S/F line, i.e. the
final straight is 400m long.


Ahh, sorry. It looked to me like they were indicating distance
from the Start/Finish line. Obviously not :-)
40m should be no problem stopping in, especially if those
winds are as bad as everyone is saying :-)

hippy


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Old September 10th 03, 12:12 AM
hippy
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"Andrew Swan" wrote in message
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No, the corner is right after the S/F line (the course runs

clockwise).

The distance markings are metres left to go to the S/F line, i.e. the
final straight is 400m long.


Ahh, sorry. It looked to me like they were indicating distance
from the Start/Finish line. Obviously not :-)
40m should be no problem stopping in, especially if those
winds are as bad as everyone is saying :-)

hippy


 




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