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Old July 31st 05, 02:46 AM
Jasper Janssen
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Default Any reason *not* to get an XT rear hub?

For my new bike, I'm planning on Deore for most of it, but I was thinking
maybe an XT rear hub (in particular because hubs are pretty hard to
replace by something better if they fail prematurely).

I'm much more interested in durability and strength than weight, so if XT
is already getting into the 'pay for less weight, possibly at the expense
of durability' game that XTR is *definitely* on, I'd just as soon go with
a lower grade.

Jasper
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Old July 31st 05, 04:56 AM
daveornee
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Jasper Janssen Wrote:
For my new bike, I'm planning on Deore for most of it, but I wa
thinking
maybe an XT rear hub (in particular because hubs are pretty hard to
replace by something better if they fail prematurely).

I'm much more interested in durability and strength than weight, so i
XT
is already getting into the 'pay for less weight, possibly at th
expense
of durability' game that XTR is *definitely* on, I'd just as soon g
with
a lower grade.

Jasper

You save 16 grams with the XT over the LX becasue XT uses Titanium axl
while LX uses steel. I think you might want to use LX based on you
reasoning

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Old July 31st 05, 05:55 AM
Jasper Janssen
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Default Any reason *not* to get an XT rear hub?

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:56:28 +1000, daveornee
wrote:

Jasper Janssen Wrote:


I'm much more interested in durability and strength than weight, so if XT
is already getting into the 'pay for less weight, possibly at the expense
of durability' game that XTR is *definitely* on, I'd just as soon go with
a lower grade.


You save 16 grams with the XT over the LX becasue XT uses Titanium axle
while LX uses steel. I think you might want to use LX based on your
reasoning.


Mmyeah. Any other differences? Quality of grease bearing seals, or the
bearings themselves, that sort of thing? The axle is, I suppose, pretty
much the *one* thing on a hub that *is* easily changed if it fails
prematurely -- would I be able to put in an LX or other steel axle if the
Ti *did* fail in the otherwise XT hub? With the same cones? Or does it
have a weird threading as well?

If I happen to decide to go for a 40-spoke wheel, I'd need to go XT
anyway, since that's apparently the lowest grade MTB hub available in 40h.
They're called tandem hubs in the brochure, but that almost has to be a
sales mistake: Shimano tandem hubs have 145mm spacing and an arai drum
thread, and these (they even make 48h versions) would be going into
standard frames with 135 spacing.

Jasper
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Old July 31st 05, 08:10 AM
Kenny
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Default Any reason *not* to get an XT rear hub?

Peter says they're Shimano's best value.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/

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Old July 31st 05, 02:06 PM
Qui si parla Campagnolo
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Default Any reason *not* to get an XT rear hub?


daveornee wrote:
Jasper Janssen Wrote:
For my new bike, I'm planning on Deore for most of it, but I was
thinking
maybe an XT rear hub (in particular because hubs are pretty hard to
replace by something better if they fail prematurely).

Jasper
You save 16 grams with the XT over the LX becasue XT uses Titanium axle
while LX uses steel. I think you might want to use LX based on your
reasoning.


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daveornee


Not true, XTR has a ti axle, not XT, but I recommend an XT rear. better
cones, cups, bearings...add greaee and adjust well before you ride it.

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Old July 31st 05, 02:15 PM
daveornee
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Jasper Janssen Wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:56:28 +1000, daveornee
wrote:

Jasper Janssen Wrote:


I'm much more interested in durability and strength than weight, s

if XT
is already getting into the 'pay for less weight, possibly at th

expense
of durability' game that XTR is *definitely* on, I'd just as soon g

with
a lower grade.


You save 16 grams with the XT over the LX becasue XT uses Titaniu

axle
while LX uses steel. I think you might want to use LX based on your
reasoning.


Mmyeah. Any other differences? Quality of grease bearing seals, or the
bearings themselves, that sort of thing? The axle is, I suppose
pretty
much the *one* thing on a hub that *is* easily changed if it fails
prematurely -- would I be able to put in an LX or other steel axle i
the
Ti *did* fail in the otherwise XT hub? With the same cones? Or does it
have a weird threading as well?

If I happen to decide to go for a 40-spoke wheel, I'd need to go XT
anyway, since that's apparently the lowest grade MTB hub available i
40h.
They're called tandem hubs in the brochure, but that almost has to b
a
sales mistake: Shimano tandem hubs have 145mm spacing and an arai drum
thread, and these (they even make 48h versions) would be going into
standard frames with 135 spacing.

Jasper

http://bike.shimano.com/media/cyclin...9830539267.pdf
and
http://bike.shimano.com/media/cyclin...9830566566.pdf
are the current models I am speaking of.
Neither shows 40 or 48 hole version

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Old July 31st 05, 02:44 PM
daveornee
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Default Any reason *not* to get an XT rear hub?


Qui si parla Campagnolo Wrote:
daveornee wrote:
Jasper Janssen Wrote:
For my new bike, I'm planning on Deore for most of it, but I was
thinking
maybe an XT rear hub (in particular because hubs are pretty har

to
replace by something better if they fail prematurely).

Jasper
You save 16 grams with the XT over the LX becasue XT uses Titaniu

axle
while LX uses steel. I think you might want to use LX based on your
reasoning.


--
daveornee


Not true, XTR has a ti axle, not XT, but I recommend an XT rear
better
cones, cups, bearings...add greaee and adjust well before you ride it.

You are right about steel on XT,... Shimano is wrong at URL:
http://tinyurl.com/amah7
or
http://bike.shimano.com/catalog/cycl...=1122817123302
where they list it as titanium. I blindly believed them.
I since took out a magnet to prove my earlier statement and thei
listing as incorrect

--
daveornee

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Old July 31st 05, 03:38 PM
Zog The Undeniable
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Default Any reason *not* to get an XT rear hub?

Jasper Janssen wrote:

For my new bike, I'm planning on Deore for most of it, but I was thinking
maybe an XT rear hub (in particular because hubs are pretty hard to
replace by something better if they fail prematurely).

I'm much more interested in durability and strength than weight, so if XT
is already getting into the 'pay for less weight, possibly at the expense
of durability' game that XTR is *definitely* on, I'd just as soon go with
a lower grade.


I neglected the XT hubs on my tourer for 5 years. When I eventually
opened them up and serviced them, the factory grease was still clean.
Mind you, Deore are probably as good.
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Old July 31st 05, 03:51 PM
Lou Holtman
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Default Any reason *not* to get an XT rear hub?

Zog The Undeniable wrote:
Jasper Janssen wrote:

For my new bike, I'm planning on Deore for most of it, but I was thinking
maybe an XT rear hub (in particular because hubs are pretty hard to
replace by something better if they fail prematurely).

I'm much more interested in durability and strength than weight, so if XT
is already getting into the 'pay for less weight, possibly at the expense
of durability' game that XTR is *definitely* on, I'd just as soon go with
a lower grade.



I neglected the XT hubs on my tourer for 5 years. When I eventually
opened them up and serviced them, the factory grease was still clean.
Mind you, Deore are probably as good.



The same here (ATB = mud in the Netherlands). The seals of the XT hubs
are very good indeed. For the price difference of 20 euro I wouldn't
even take the trouble figuring out if the Deore hub is as good as the XT
hub.


Lou
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Old July 31st 05, 07:39 PM
Peter Cole
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Default Any reason *not* to get an XT rear hub?

Lou Holtman wrote:
Zog The Undeniable wrote:

Jasper Janssen wrote:

For my new bike, I'm planning on Deore for most of it, but I was
thinking
maybe an XT rear hub (in particular because hubs are pretty hard to
replace by something better if they fail prematurely).

I'm much more interested in durability and strength than weight, so
if XT
is already getting into the 'pay for less weight, possibly at the
expense
of durability' game that XTR is *definitely* on, I'd just as soon go
with
a lower grade.




I neglected the XT hubs on my tourer for 5 years. When I eventually
opened them up and serviced them, the factory grease was still clean.
Mind you, Deore are probably as good.




The same here (ATB = mud in the Netherlands). The seals of the XT hubs
are very good indeed. For the price difference of 20 euro I wouldn't
even take the trouble figuring out if the Deore hub is as good as the XT
hub.


LX seals are supposedly the same as XT. LX is usually the sweet spot in
terms of value -- pretty nice for $30.
 




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